Ocarina Of Time Using Snes Zelda Engine

TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">OoT in 2d. With Playable demos</div> I can't believe it. I also can't wait for it to come out.

Someone is remaking Ocarina of time using the SNES Link to the Past engine.


<a href='http://www.oot2d.com/screenshots.html' target='_blank'>Ocarina of Time 2d screenshots.</a>
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    That is... Beautiful....
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    lol, cool... just hope they add joypad support =o
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    I think i just made a mess in my pants.


    I wanted to play Ocarina, i tried so many times, but i dispised the graphics and engine, 3D just isn't Zelda. I will be sure to look out for this.
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I loved the Ocarina of Time! Now I'm getting it in a whole new format? YEEEE-HAW!
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    Am I the only one who thinks this is incredibly stupid? OOT has far better graphics and gameplay than LTTP... Why not remake LTTP on the OOT engine? That may not be feasible, but it makes a lot more sense.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    Because all the 3d Zelda games have crap graphics (apart from Wind Waker IMHO)

    2d > 3d in some cases
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pulse+Jan 12 2004, 02:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Jan 12 2004, 02:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one who thinks this is incredibly stupid?  OOT has far better graphics and gameplay than LTTP...  Why not remake LTTP on the OOT engine? That may not be feasible, but it makes a lot more sense. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes you are...


    LTTP > OOT in every way. Not just because of any "omg 2d > 3d" (though that's certainly reasonable for this type of game) its because LTTP has, in my opinion, a much better storyline. The Big Plot Twist in LTTP meant soo soo much more than the one in Ocarina of Time, which you kinda saw coming anyway.


    And as far as the argument that "Zelda doesn't belong in 3D", I can understand that argument with the somewhat craptastic N64 controls, but I urge you to re-evaluate your opinion and take a look at Wind Waker. You'll find that Zelda does indeed translate VERY well into 3D. Is it the exact same? Of course not, but really is that what you want? I'm glad its different, it makes it new and fresh. And the cell-shading... God it looks even better with S-Video :D

    [edit]
    Oh and Ocarina of Time 2D = PWN
    [/edit]
  • DY357LXDY357LX Playing since day 1. Still can&#39;t Comm. England Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1651Members, Constellation
    :: High Five's DOOManiac and goes back to playing Oracle Of Ages on his GBA ::
    I've NEVER been disappointed in any way, shape, or form by any of the
    Zelda games.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    Well <u>I</u> didn't see the twist in Ocarina of time coming, although on reflection it was quite obvious.

    Haven't played LTTP the whole way through, played as far as going to the "dark world" or whatever it's called on my friend's snes a while ago.

    I don't see how you can say OOT's graphics were bad, o.k they were a bit "basic" in as far as you could see the polygons, but it was still nice looking, and was without doubt THE best game on the 64 (Goldeneye fanboys aside). The question is, will they use the soundtrack from the original or will they make up a 16-bit soundtrack to go with the 2D version? I for one will be devastated if they change the Hyrule field theme.

    P.S, yes I realise the title of "Best game for the 64" is a title with little opposition.
  • twoflowtwoflow Singing Drunk Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 1950Members, Constellation
    People play Zelda for the storyline, now?

    I loved OOT, thought Wind Waker was disappointing, and am currently finding Majora's Mask a little daunting with the whole time travel thing. Goron Link is fun, though.

    I don't think that converting OOT to 2D is a stupid idea, but I damn sure know which version I'd rather play. HINT: 3D.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    edited January 2004
    <span style='color:red'><i><b>HEILIGE </b></i></span><span style='color:white'>Note that I <i>can</i> speak German, so search another way of dodging the filer <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--></span>

    this is gonna be a rom? or..?
  • TheWizardTheWizard Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10553Members, Constellation
    I loved windwaker. Until I had to go to another island.

    Set sailing mode. Put weight on controller. Take nap.



    Sure it fit the story but damned if it didn't get annoying after the first 3 trips.
  • Marine0IMarine0I Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8639Members, Constellation
    Ocarina of Time was the first Zelda game I ever played, and I loved it.

    The 2d stuff is alright, but I remember being awed at the graphics on yea olde 64. Nothing has particularly leapt out at me with the 2d version.....
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Boy who lost his wings+Jan 12 2004, 03:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Boy who lost his wings @ Jan 12 2004, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> looks like Rm2k/3 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i'm such a nerd for knowing what that stands for -_-
  • PulsePulse To create, to create and escape. Join Date: 2002-08-29 Member: 1248Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Jan 12 2004, 02:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jan 12 2004, 02:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Pulse+Jan 12 2004, 02:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Jan 12 2004, 02:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am I the only one who thinks this is incredibly stupid?  OOT has far better graphics and gameplay than LTTP...  Why not remake LTTP on the OOT engine? That may not be feasible, but it makes a lot more sense. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes you are...


    LTTP > OOT in every way. Not just because of any "omg 2d > 3d" (though that's certainly reasonable for this type of game) its because LTTP has, in my opinion, a much better storyline. The Big Plot Twist in LTTP meant soo soo much more than the one in Ocarina of Time, which you kinda saw coming anyway.


    And as far as the argument that "Zelda doesn't belong in 3D", I can understand that argument with the somewhat craptastic N64 controls, but I urge you to re-evaluate your opinion and take a look at Wind Waker. You'll find that Zelda does indeed translate VERY well into 3D. Is it the exact same? Of course not, but really is that what you want? I'm glad its different, it makes it new and fresh. And the cell-shading... God it looks even better with S-Video <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    [edit]
    Oh and Ocarina of Time 2D = PWN
    [/edit]<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    WTH? LTTP didn't even <i>have</i> a story, well, it did, but it was nothing more than an excuse to plumb dungeons, it was so forgettable that you could have completely removed it and the game wouldn't be any less enjoyable. Whats more... LTTP and OOT have the same god damn plot! (just replace "dark world" with "the future" "dungeons" with "Temples" and "maidens" with "elders" and you're set). The only Zelda game with an actual story was Majora's Mask (although I haven't played Wind Waker yet, prove me wrong, please) Bonus points for having nothing to do with what I said... no... actually, you're right, LTTP's story wouldn't have worked in 3d [/sarcasm]. Seriously people, give me one good example of how OOT would be better in 2d (besides "Its free").

    Oh, and if you had trouble with OOT's controls, then you have arthritus, and you played it while on valium, as well as several extremely strong and highly illegal drugs, and some alcohol. I'm beginning to think that you've never played OOT, or even touched an n64, and are just bashing it because its "cool"
  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    That looks, AMAZING, such quality I didn't even expect D:
  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    That's cool if for no other reason than the nostalgic value. I just recently beat LTTP again over Christmas break. Still a fun game. It's a classic.
  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    The things people waste their life on...

    I really don't see the point... considering I started playing Zelda at 'The Legend of Zelda' (Where for the longest time I was convinced Link's name was Zelda... because the whole damn game was ABOUT him), where the graphics are a joke now, OOT was simply amazing. There was nothing wrong with the controls... if you couldn't figure it out then you have the mental capacity of a child. Honestly, A, B, joypad, and 3 'quickslot' keys. How freaking hard is that?
  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    I think the Zelda story line slowly gets boring, does Ganon always have to be the bad guy ? Cant they just make up something new (the story of Wind Waker was a slight improvement)? However, the gameplay keeps getting better, as for the old Zelda games, it was a little too easy to get through the game. In Wind Waker, however, damn those puzzles and all that stuff, its damn HARD !

    I like the 3d Zelda games better, they require more skill. In the 2d games, all you had to do is shoot that arrow in the approximate direction of the enemy, and you get a hit.
    In 3d, you really have to aim. And when Ocarina of Time came out, the graphics were kind of state of the art. I loved playing it (and I still do).

    The old gameboy Zelda game "Link's Awakening" was great too, mostly because the storyline went completely separate from the other games. Link was sailing a ship, came into a storm, wakes up at some Island and is held captured in his dreams. You have to do all sorts of stuff, collect 8 instruments, until you get to the endboss, who is located in a giant EGG on a mountain, that is opened with those 8 instruments.
    Once you beat the end boss, a giant WHALE (creepy, yeah <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->) appears, and he makes your dream world dissappear and come back to real life. Great game.

    Also, all the items need to be exchanged. Wind Waker had some nice additions, but most of the items were old and overused. Also, I couldnt really get into that conducting staff thingy, some kind of guitar wouldve been cooler <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->.

    About the sea travels: Yeah those were very bad, pretty boring, though it gets a little better once you kill the tornado guy. Mark: A LITTLE better.

    I wonder of some of you know the good old RPG classics for SNES such as Secret of Mana & Secret of Evermore (my all-time favourites, just can't beat Secret of Mana's storyline). I LOVED those games.

    *edit* Once this 2D OOT game is done I might get my old SNES9x emulator out.
  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    OOT: Roll forward under an enemy's attacks, off a ledge. Falling, you draw your two-handed Biggeron sword and cleave a monster in half. You parry a blow then launch into a spin attack, clearing the area around you. You sheath the sword and draw your shield and shortsword, and trade blows with a Stalfos.

    Old Zelda: Run forward and poke things with the tip of your color-changing sword.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh+Jan 12 2004, 01:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh @ Jan 12 2004, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Because all the 3d Zelda games have crap graphics <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Gameplay > Graphics

    Majora's Mask is my favorite Zelda, because it's so unique and has tons of replay value. Once I beat LTTP, I never played it again. This is an awesome project, and I'm probably going to play it just to see how they did the last battle. I love the 2D one's, but the game play's all the same and using new items isn't to great unless it's a stronger sword.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think the Zelda story line slowly gets boring, does Ganon always have to be the bad guy ? Cant they just make up something new (the story of Wind Waker was a slight improvement)? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hmm??? Ever play Majora's Mask? Adventure of Link? Oracle of Seasons/Ages(Unless Linked)? Link's Awakening? Maybe Four Swords? Ganon/Ganondorf's not in them, accept the Oracles, but that's just a bonus that you don't need to beat the game.
  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    Adventure of Link (that's the one that's side-scrolling, right?) was like...

    worst
    game
    ever
  • AeaAea Join Date: 2003-10-09 Member: 21552Members
    edited January 2004
    <b><span style='color:red'>***Nuked.***</span></b>

    <span style='color:white'>*ahem*, sorry had to get that out of our system.</span>


    Now that that's done, I can see it being a good venture if Nintendo decided to make a game like that for their GBA; but these people need to think of something more original to do.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Aea+Jan 12 2004, 09:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aea @ Jan 12 2004, 09:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can see it being a good venture if Nintendo decided to make a game like that for their GBA; but these people need to think of something more original to do. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Probably a terrible venture. Why would people buy something they probably already have in 3D for GameCube? Most people probably wouldn't buy it, especially if some think it's a bad idea in the first place. What's a better idea they could pull off?
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Pulse+Jan 12 2004, 06:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pulse @ Jan 12 2004, 06:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> WTH? LTTP didn't even <i>have</i> a story, well, it did, but it was nothing more than an excuse to plumb dungeons, it was so forgettable that you could have completely removed it and the game wouldn't be any less enjoyable. Whats more... LTTP and OOT have the same god damn plot! (just replace "dark world" with "the future" "dungeons" with "Temples" and "maidens" with "elders" and you're set). The only Zelda game with an actual story was Majora's Mask (although I haven't played Wind Waker yet, prove me wrong, please) Bonus points for having nothing to do with what I said... no... actually, you're right, LTTP's story wouldn't have worked in 3d [/sarcasm]. Seriously people, give me one good example of how OOT would be better in 2d (besides "Its free").

    Oh, and if you had trouble with OOT's controls, then you have arthritus, and you played it while on valium, as well as several extremely strong and highly illegal drugs, and some alcohol. I'm beginning to think that you've never played OOT, or even touched an n64, and are just bashing it because its "cool" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Didn't have a story? Just because you're not forced to pay attention to it doesn't mean its not there. Otherwise you could say OOT or even Half-Life had no story other than an excuse to kill things...

    Also, Link To The Past and OOT's plots are VERY different. Well, as different as any Zelda game involving Ganon, Link, and Princess Zelda.

    And yes I've played OOT, on both Gamecube and N64. I love it, its great. Its a great game. However the control is a little wierd in some places it seems, or maybe that's just because I can't help but compare its control scheme to Wind Waker's, which is virtually identical but quite a bit more responsive.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin--Liku+Jan 12 2004, 11:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Jan 12 2004, 11:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Aea+Jan 12 2004, 09:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aea @ Jan 12 2004, 09:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can see it being a good venture if Nintendo decided to make a game like that for their GBA; but these people need to think of something more original to do. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Probably a terrible venture. Why would people buy something they probably already have in 3D for GameCube? Most people probably wouldn't buy it, especially if some think it's a bad idea in the first place. What's a better idea they could pull off? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ever see the GBA Splinter Cell? It obviously sold as they're making a Pandora Tommorrow for GBA as well... yeah...

    Personally I'd love to see 2D OOT on GBA. :D
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    while I think the 2D version is cool and all, there's nothing wrong with the original that couldn't be blamed on the N64's 'fuzzovision'. Outside of being blurrier than heck the graphics were fine for it's time and the controls were so good I often found myself wishing they'd stick in a multiplayer or something ^^

    You can't really whine at the 2D incarnations either, quite often you had hit certain parts of the enemy which was akward; even the shield-bearing knights at the start had to be hit on the left-hand side to get past them blocking with their sword =P
    And lets not forget that 3D has a lockon... sure you can go firstperson and aim but most of the time you're just as fast whacking the lockon key and firing, so it's less a case of 3D needing 'more' skill and more a case of it needing 'different' skills <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • pantspants Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11188Members
    its not using the snes zelda engine, this game is made with <a href='http://www.gamemaker.nl/' target='_blank'>Game-Maker</a>, by a one man team (graphics and all). TheRealMethuselah was meant to release a demo up to the first boss on christmas, but he never did... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Not that I ever played 2D Zelda, but: cool <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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