F***ing Marketing Executives Hit A New Low

InfinitumInfinitum Anime Encyclopedia Join Date: 2002-08-08 Member: 1111Members, Constellation
edited January 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">This is beyond disgusting...</div> Original picture of Russian soldiers holding a photo of their fallen comrades:
<img src='http://www.gunsnet.net/album/data//500/6673f2.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

Advertisement in <s>Computer</s> Electronic Gaming Monthly:
<img src='http://www.gunsnet.net/album/uploads//6673/f.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>



Yeah well done your marketing executive f***s. Let's just pour advertising excrement all over the loving memory of fallen soldiers. Way to f***ing go, that's the sort of f***ing respect we need to show them.

<b>F*** this pisses me off</b>

Yet another reason why I have no hope for the human race as a collective whole...

Where's their frickin email address... I rarely write to morons, but this is just sickening....

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Edit by Marik_Steele for clarification on which magazine did this. The e-mail address has been found as egm@ziffdavis.com</span>
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  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    Dear God...Thats disgusting!!
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  • zoobyzooby Join Date: 2003-08-26 Member: 20236Members
    edited January 2004
    I agree. This is why i haaaaaaaaaaate businesses, because they do stupid craps like this, not to mention thousands of other stupid things. I hope the poor Russians in the picture either A) get their share of profits from the advertising (aka 99.99%) or B) They get their behind sued [sic] shut.
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  • enf0rcerenf0rcer intrigued... Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14584Members
    well we dont know that <i>they</i> knew it was about fallen soldiers... its still out of taste though.
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  • BirdyBirdy Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16825Members, Constellation
    That's just too sad for words.
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  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    I am at a loss for words... Really... That is utterly disgusting.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Comrades.... This is a direct spit in my face, give my a url or a mailing address NOW.
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    ... i didn't know what the original pic was in egm but thats just ... sick

    <span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>EGM@ziffdavis.com</span></span>

    and i'll post a scan of their reply if it gets in
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Black Mage+Jan 11 2004, 01:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Mage @ Jan 11 2004, 01:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ... i didn't know what the original pic was in egm but thats just ... sick

    EGM@ziffdavis.com, and i'll post a scan of their reply if it gets in <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Is that the address I can yell at
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  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    Remember: don't just e-mail them yourselves. E-mail the guys at <a href='http://www.penny-arcade.com' target='_blank'>Penny Arcade</a> and let them know about it too. The moment they make a post on their main page about how sickening this is, you'll have hundreds to thousands of people <i>hammering </i>these disrespectful fools with e-mails.
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  • BlackMageBlackMage [citation needed] Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17474Members, Constellation
    infinitum, that was electronic gaming mothly fyi <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    To play devil's advocate here, what's more disgusting about using a picture like that in an ad than making a game out of a similar subject? You could equivalently say that making an entertainment product out of a war is mocking the lives of all the people who died in it.

    What's the significant moral difference between making a WWII game, and using a picture like that in an ad?
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  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    OK everyone, set your phazers to flame..
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Jan 11 2004, 01:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jan 11 2004, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To play devil's advocate here, what's more disgusting about using a picture like that in an ad than making a game out of a similar subject? You could equivalently say that making an entertainment product out of a war is mocking the lives of all the people who died in it.

    What's the significant moral difference between making a WWII game, and using a picture like that in an ad? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Mostly because in WW2 games you don't see pictures of real men who were there, unlike this add where its got REAL people.
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  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    EGM Employment Page 1 Week From Now:

    Urgently seeking print artist to do art for articles. Must have ability to not be a frikin moron.
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  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    For once, I will not remove a swearword-dodging from a topics title.

    Ye gods, this is beyond good and evil.
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  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    How could they actually do such a thing? I hope they get nuked.
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  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Somebody passed this on to penny arcade yet?
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  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    I really hope this gets passed to penny arcade soon. Once they put out the complaints, EGM will be swamped with mail.
    Honestly, how stupid can they get?
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  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited January 2004
    The second i saw that image the words of Bill Hicks came flying into my head.

    "If anyone here is in marketing or advertising....... kill yourself"


    This is a new low.
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  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jan 11 2004, 02:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jan 11 2004, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Somebody passed this on to penny arcade yet? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Done.
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  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SuperTeflon+Jan 11 2004, 07:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuperTeflon @ Jan 11 2004, 07:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jan 11 2004, 02:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jan 11 2004, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Somebody passed this on to penny arcade yet? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Done. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pwnt <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • ConfuzorConfuzor Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2412Awaiting Authorization
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Jan 11 2004, 10:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jan 11 2004, 10:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To play devil's advocate here, what's more disgusting about using a picture like that in an ad than making a game out of a similar subject? You could equivalently say that making an entertainment product out of a war is mocking the lives of all the people who died in it.

    What's the significant moral difference between making a WWII game, and using a picture like that in an ad? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Judging by the look of the photo, it seems very recent, so the memory of such pain is still very strong.

    As sick as it sounds, if the same advertisement was used fifty or sixty years later, no one would care. The guy who made the advertisement just had VERY bad timing. That or he underestimated people's concern of people from foreign countries.

    I'm glad you people are angry over this; as disrespectful as I KNOW it is, I don't FEEL anything about it. That in itself makes me **** off.
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  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jan 11 2004, 02:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jan 11 2004, 02:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SuperTeflon+Jan 11 2004, 07:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuperTeflon @ Jan 11 2004, 07:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jan 11 2004, 02:12 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jan 11 2004, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Somebody passed this on to penny arcade yet? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Done. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pwnt <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Time to check penny arcade! (Or more realistically give them a few days.) I have a feeling they will have a good response for this one.
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  • RetalesRetales Panigg cultist Join Date: 2003-08-07 Member: 19180Members
    Though my country has been in war with Russia (Soviet Union back then), I think this is still wrong
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  • NuketheplaceNuketheplace Join Date: 2002-09-02 Member: 1266Members
    I'm shocked I really am. To think a company could take a very sad memorial and turn it into not only a advertisement, but a very crappy advertisement is just beyond words for me. I can't wait to see if Penny Arcade does anything about this. That should be one of the best rips ever.
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  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Jan 11 2004, 01:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jan 11 2004, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To play devil's advocate here, what's more disgusting about using a picture like that in an ad than making a game out of a similar subject? You could equivalently say that making an entertainment product out of a war is mocking the lives of all the people who died in it.

    What's the significant moral difference between making a WWII game, and using a picture like that in an ad? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmm...

    <span style='color:white'>Do not revert nukes. And no matter what your point might be, it is still inappropriate in its own rights.</span>
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  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SuperTeflon+Jan 11 2004, 07:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuperTeflon @ Jan 11 2004, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Jan 11 2004, 01:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jan 11 2004, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To play devil's advocate here, what's more disgusting about using a picture like that in an ad than making a game out of a similar subject? You could equivalently say that making an entertainment product out of a war is mocking the lives of all the people who died in it.

    What's the significant moral difference between making a WWII game, and using a picture like that in an ad? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmm... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Words do indeed fail me at this time.
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  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--DuBERS+Jan 11 2004, 03:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DuBERS @ Jan 11 2004, 03:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--SuperTeflon+Jan 11 2004, 07:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SuperTeflon @ Jan 11 2004, 07:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Jan 11 2004, 01:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jan 11 2004, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To play devil's advocate here, what's more disgusting about using a picture like that in an ad than making a game out of a similar subject? You could equivalently say that making an entertainment product out of a war is mocking the lives of all the people who died in it.

    What's the significant moral difference between making a WWII game, and using a picture like that in an ad? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmm... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Words do indeed fail me at this time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hammering a point home with a sledghammer <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • SuperTeflonSuperTeflon Join Date: 2003-12-31 Member: 24893Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Confuzor+Jan 11 2004, 02:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Confuzor @ Jan 11 2004, 02:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--moultano+Jan 11 2004, 10:34 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jan 11 2004, 10:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To play devil's advocate here, what's more disgusting about using a picture like that in an ad than making a game out of a similar subject? You could equivalently say that making an entertainment product out of a war is mocking the lives of all the people who died in it.

    What's the significant moral difference between making a WWII game, and using a picture like that in an ad? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Judging by the look of the photo, it seems very recent, so the memory of such pain is still very strong. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Judging by the USSR flag in the background it isn't TOO recent...

    But there's a difference between fictionalizing events and portraying a real tragedy as an advertisement. As I showed you.
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