Service Pack 2 Info For XP Users

MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
<div class="IPBDescription">Coming sometime in the next few months</div> <a href='http://www.arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/04q1/sp2-beta-1.html' target='_blank'>http://www.arstechnica.com/wankerdesk/04q1...sp2-beta-1.html</a>

A very well-written (i.e. understandable for non-techies too) writeup on the upcoming Windows XP Service Pack 2, due out sometime between now and the summer, depending on which MS press release you believe. It's based on a late beta and covers a lot of the new features and security improvements. This is one of the more interesting SP's I've ever seen, as it's big on functionality and not just bug fixes and tweaks.

If you want to comment, please make an attempt to read the entire article (it's only 3 pages) - go back to Slashdot if you are a trolling non-RTFA penguin-poncer. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

Comments

  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Cool, I like all the new features the ICF is getting.
  • SirusSirus Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8466Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I'm actually looking forward to this, especially the new wireless network taskbar menu.
  • MrMojoMrMojo Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9882Members, Constellation
    Wow, you can't ignore automatic updates ! <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Good firewall, though, that's good. It has good features too, and lots of customability.

    Wireless is good, although I don't personally use it.

    Sweet new IE, pop-up blocker and hopefully it will stop the .jpg exploiters.


    I'm really looking forward to this, it has a lot of cool new features.
  • SillyGooseSillyGoose Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14572Members, Constellation
    I like the security fixes, although the windows ICF doesnt mean poo to me as Im getting ready to install smoothwall on an old 486, and I use Mozilla and never want to use IE again.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited January 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin--SillyGoose+Jan 5 2004, 06:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SillyGoose @ Jan 5 2004, 06:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I like the security fixes, although the windows ICF doesnt mean poo to me as Im getting ready to install smoothwall on an old 486, and I use Mozilla and never want to use IE again. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Post your IP for us so we can hack you for the next 4 months until you get smoothwall working properly. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I'm not looking forward to dealing with the issues caused by all the auto-update and ICF changes in a corporate environment. I have the feeling that I'll be writing a lot of bodged wraper code to undue many of the reg changes that would swamp the hilariously undersized WAN infrastructure here. Unless they are nice and smart about the IT-install version of the patch. We shall see; I can't put it in the labs until it goes RC.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    Indeed Monse, poping up a box for each and every application that tries to use the internet... gah, that's going to be a hassle.

    Otherwise, the new SP looks pretty good. I especially like the additions to IE, and am most impressed with the option to "Never install software from this company". Bye-bye gator popup installers, forever! Yay.

    One thing that concerns me though is the issue of speed wasn't mentioned at all in the article. All the new functionality is nice, but its useless if it makes the os even slower. That's why I don't use SP1, because XP was actually faster (and a little more stable) without it...
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    I praying to god it does somthing for my 56k connection..... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Jan 6 2004, 02:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Jan 6 2004, 02:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Indeed Monse, poping up a box for each and every application that tries to use the internet... gah, that's going to be a hassle.

    Otherwise, the new SP looks pretty good. I especially like the additions to IE, and am most impressed with the option to "Never install software from this company". Bye-bye gator popup installers, forever! Yay.

    One thing that concerns me though is the issue of speed wasn't mentioned at all in the article. All the new functionality is nice, but its useless if it makes the os even slower. That's why I don't use SP1, because XP was actually faster (and a little more stable) without it... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Bah, it takes 10 seconds.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Well, I actually read the whoooole article Monse, and I must say, it seems like those death threats and pictures of Steve Jobs with beautiful women did the trick!

    Im not getting rid of my google bar tho, love being able to search and have popup blocking in one. Hmm, 2 built in blockers, double the fun! The rest is moot for me, no wireless, already got a router, no need for their crappy firewall, but it is a step in the right direction.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    Notice how Microsoft is doing something good for once and people pay no notice, but the second they screw up, everyone will be all... "OMG M$ SUX LUNIX PWNZ J00 TUX FOREVAR!!!1111oneonebiscuit"
  • Boy_who_lost_his_wingsBoy_who_lost_his_wings Join Date: 2003-12-03 Member: 23924Banned
    huzzah! popup blocking
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    All I have to say is that this is gonna be one good patch I can finally get for my PC <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But one thing that will bother me is the popup blocker.....turn it on and let my brother surf his giant pr0n list, or leave it off and let it expose him....hmmmm....

    Overall though, I like what Microsoft is doing.....for once <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Actually I never was against them, it's just the....well....slow response :/
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    Excellent.

    Hardware firewall's got me invisible to all <a href='https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2/' target='_blank'>ShieldsUP</a> tests, etc. so I have no need for the ICF, and I use <a href='http://www.mozilla.org/products/firebird/' target='_blank'>Firebird</a> as my browser so the IE updates don't affect me, but I run a wireless network. Updates to that functionality are most welcome.
  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    as long as its better for the mass with the simple download of a SP, it's a good thing.

    I don't use IE, Outlook nor wireless, but I don't see anything bad with this <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Jan 6 2004, 11:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Jan 6 2004, 11:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> as long as its better for the mass with the simple download of a SP, it's a good thing.

    I don't use IE, Outlook nor wireless, but I don't see anything bad with this <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's the excellent point I was looking to see: even if you have done everything right and protected yourself properly, if the rest of the Internet XP users out there haven't then you're going to feel the burn when they get exploited/rooted/zombied/worm factoried/email virused/etc. Having this system square away 40,000,000 improperly managed XP workstations is quite a step in the right direction.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Will there be something simliar for Win2k?
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    Well its good to see that MS is finally Trying to make Xp pro better than 2000 Pro.

    I might have to upgrade to Xp.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    I prefer Xp, but my good PC is in the middle of a lengthy RMA process, Im using Win2k.
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Jan 6 2004, 11:37 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jan 6 2004, 11:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Will there be something simliar for Win2k? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    To some extent. 2K does not have a firewall, but it can use IE 6, windows update, etc. It's likely that some of the components will too.
  • taboofirestaboofires Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9853Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Jan 6 2004, 10:39 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Jan 6 2004, 10:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well its good to see that MS is finally Trying to make Xp pro better than 2000 Pro.

    I might have to upgrade to Xp. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It already is, but very very marginally. XP Home sucks, tho. It's missing some important configging options, and it can make some network configs pretty freaking hard to set up.

    Still, I'm keeping 2000 on every computer except my laptop (for wireless). If nothing else, I don't want to deal with XP's horrible re-install process when my family invariably breaks something.
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