Sci-fi Movies
Hey guys,
I was just reading up in Monse's Aliens post, and I felt like posting a new thread. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Well, I'm obsessed with Sci-Fi movies and DVD's. My Sci-Fi favorites are Red Planet, Pitch Black, Final Fantasy, Starship Troopers... and you'll notice I'm really into the stranded-on-hostile-planet-with-cool-futuristic-gear theme. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
The thing is, everyone says those movies sucked the big one, and the may as well have, but seriously, I don't care. I really did enjoy watching them, and isn't that all that matters? I don't care if they didn't have the elements that make an "ideal" movie, but watching them and being pulled into these environments totally won me over.
So now I ask:
- Do any of you guys feel this way?
- If so, what other movies of this genre did you like and would recommend?
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rOoKe
I was just reading up in Monse's Aliens post, and I felt like posting a new thread. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Well, I'm obsessed with Sci-Fi movies and DVD's. My Sci-Fi favorites are Red Planet, Pitch Black, Final Fantasy, Starship Troopers... and you'll notice I'm really into the stranded-on-hostile-planet-with-cool-futuristic-gear theme. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
The thing is, everyone says those movies sucked the big one, and the may as well have, but seriously, I don't care. I really did enjoy watching them, and isn't that all that matters? I don't care if they didn't have the elements that make an "ideal" movie, but watching them and being pulled into these environments totally won me over.
So now I ask:
- Do any of you guys feel this way?
- If so, what other movies of this genre did you like and would recommend?
Just felt like gettin that out <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
rOoKe
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Starship Troopers, COULD'VE been cool if you completely scrapped the script, the actors, the acting, the director, and the special effects and assigned tasked it all to a 7 year old epileptic with autism.
I didn't really mind final fantasy, but that might be because I hate Final Fantasy games <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> I had no idea what the hell was going on but it still was pretty neat.
Never saw Red Planet or Pitch Black.
But despite thinking that EVERY time i watch it, i still enjoy watching it. I don't know what it is about that film, it's just got a.... charm. As for any other recomendations... i don't know, i don't really watch many films.
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It did have its moments. The reporters on the frontlines spewing propoganda was a nice touch, and the goofy news programs, like it was SUPPOSED to be silly like that...
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Starship Troopers, COULD'VE been cool if you completely scrapped the script, the actors, the acting, the director, and the special effects and assigned tasked it all to a 7 year old epileptic with autism.
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You do know Starship Troopers sucked on purpose if you look at it just as a sci-fi movie...It has many many underlying reasons and representations and meanings...If you still don't understand it, PM me and Ill explain it deeper.
<a href='http://www.thechroniclesofriddick.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.thechroniclesofriddick.com/</a>
The director claims to be making three movies "in a similar fashion to star wars but dirtier"
I think others would be interested to hear your opinions, as well. <i>Starship Troopers</i>, sadly, seems to be lost on many.
I get some of the stuff in ST, like the way the society is run, permits for everything etc, but the acting is so poor in some parts.... and that bloody woman. SHE JUST DOESN'T GET HURT. Rico gets stabbed in the leg (fair enough, it's a large gash, but it's still just his leg), and he's presumed dead and spends a few days in that chamber thing.
She, on the other hand, gets a starship cockpit blown up into her face, sustaining only a minor cut to the head. Then she pilots a tiny shuttle into a rough landing, bouncing off a mountain and going THROUGH another mountain (while not wearing the seatbelt if you notice) and sustains no injuries. Then she gets stabbed twice through the chest (from behind) and even lifted up by those wounds. Then she can run, hold and fire an assault rifle, and wrap her arms around her friends shoulders with no pain. SHE IS UNSTOPPABLE! SHE WILL KILL US ALL!
A recent sci-fi-ish movie i just saw recently was <a href='http://imdb.com/title/tt0160399/' target='_blank'>Impostor</a>. It's not quite the thing you're going for, but i really liked it, and it is still sci-fi. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
one sci-fi-ish movie I loved but disappeared off the face of the earth was 'the killing machine'. It was cheesy at some bits but overall it was just great fun to watch =D
It's the one where a madman gets fired from a company and unleashes his mechanical creation on the bosses after work; it hunts by certain chemicals given off by people when they're in a state of fear so the more scared you are the easier a time it has of finding you. Some guys break in and one of the employees bumps into them and they all end up getting chased by the machine around the building... some bits are just great like when it starts tearing up the elevator to get to them XD
But i keep imagining a scene where one of the good guys stands up and goes "I am not afraid!" and it turns out like one of those cartoons where because he's not afraid of it it can't hurt him because it hunts using fear chemicals or something.
Actually, how did they kill it? Presumably it involves some form of explosion.
I saw that one.
...
It sucked
...
A lot
They managed to beat it back by taking one of the guys, erasing his personality and sticking him a powersuit. I won't tell you the ending but lets just say the creator gets to spend some quality time in the dark with his machine and it's many blades =3
I was always partial to Screamers myself.
Still, it was a fun movie.
Well, I'm obsessed with Sci-Fi movies and DVD's. My Sci-Fi favorites are Red Planet, Pitch Black, Final Fantasy, Starship Troopers... and you'll notice I'm really into the stranded-on-hostile-planet-with-cool-futuristic-gear theme. <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'><!--endemo-->
The thing is, everyone says those movies sucked the big one, and the may as well have, but seriously, I don't care. I really did enjoy watching them, and isn't that all that matters? I don't care if they didn't have the elements that make an "ideal" movie, but watching them and being pulled into these environments totally won me over.
So now I ask:
- Do any of you guys feel this way?
- If so, what other movies of this genre did you like and would recommend?
Just felt like gettin that out <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
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I love all those movie you stated, Who cares if they wernt the greatest of movies if you like em who cares.
Ever seen Blade Runner? Awsome Movie
Minority Report? Event Horizion?
Supernova? That was like Event Horizion sorta.
How about Solaris? Taht was pretty cool.
Sphere, not the best but Id see it again.
Chech out the Babylon 5 Series, or the Babylon 5 Movies. Such as "In the Beginning"
Battle Star Galactica, its movies, the old series and the new sci-fi channel remake are very cool as well.
Ive never liked Star Trek but some of the movies are pretty good.
Anyway, the story in Shpere is similar to the one in Solaris, which is a russian movie and now we get to my point which is that russian sci-fi rules! You just have to see Stalker which is made by Andrei Tarkovsky who also made Solaris. The movie is based off the book Roadside Picnic, which also is the base for the game S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Oblivion lost
Another great sci-fi movie, which isn't russian but canadian, is Cube. Oh, and don't bother to see the sequel because it is really bad and will ruin your view on the first one.
I just can't keep myself from adding a few Solaris-specific details here.
The story originates from the <a href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0156027607/qid=1073159990/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-4909125-1378364' target='_blank'>novel</a> by Stanislaw Lem, one of the greatest science fiction authors of all time (His biography reads by the way better than some Tom Clancy books - he did for example print false passes for the resistance in WW2.). According to him, he wrote the novel to show how an attempt of communication with an alien species could really develop, because he hated all the sci-fi where "the whole Universe seems to speak English". What came out was, as usual for his works, a deep, <i>deep</i> parable on human nature, specifically love.
Andrei Tarkovsky created the first movie called '<a href='http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069293/' target='_blank'>Solaris</a>' in 1972. He used the background of the novel to convey veiled criticism of the Soviet Union. It's considered one of the best sci-fi movies of all time.
The '<a href='http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307479/' target='_blank'>Solaris</a>' you'll get when you go into a shop and ask for it today is by far younger - it was created by Steven Sonderbergh with George Clooney doing one of his best performances as the male lead. This interpretation leaves the 'communication' aspect out and concentrates on the philosophical part. While critically acclaimed, it failed to sell well.
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Square had every intention of going mainstream and based its whole production on the monetary funds that would provide. It even got itself a great selling point - the CG - but trying to enter the economically critical United States with a first project that had a plot borderlining on New Age esoterics was just bound to fail.
Square should've started with an action flick - possibly something along the lines of the 'medieval anime' style they developed with the early FFs - and then branched off.
I'm actually reading the book right now.
First, some movie history:
Peter Verehoven started working on a movie with the working title 'Bug Hunt'. It was about this bug aliens that attack earth and then the military of the future goes and kicks **** with lots of fire fights. Someone in legal said 'oh shi that's Starship Troopers', so they secured the rights. THE MOVIE'S PLOT WAS WRITTEN PRIOR TO THE READING OF THE BOOK. They edited their script and swapped in character names.
Some key differences:
- In the movie, aliens are huge **** kickers. Heinlein wasn't a douche that way. He knew that if a MAN was going to fight a huge freaking alien, he'd use kickass armor. The closest I can come to MI armor in another medium would be a Gear from Heavy Gear. They aren't mechs- they are powered, automated armor suits.
- The book focuses on training and the role of MI. The first mention of the war doesn't come till Chapter 10, which is about halfway through the book.
- They added the damn love story.
- The Federation isn't fascist. It is a restricted democracy. Civil Service is discouraged, really, because there isn't enough for people to do. The book also makes it VERY clear that the ONLY case in which someone may be denied from service is if they are mentally unable to understand the Oath. Even if you're a stump, they still have an obligation to place you in some form of civil service.
-Another key point of the book: people don't like the military. Human wars were a thing of the past, making the military a useless organ. Also, 'Civil Service' encompassed anything from the MI to intelligence, to labor camps or production facilities.
- There was an alliance of alien races against mankind. The Arachnids were allied with 'the Skinnies' (think the typical gray alien). The battle in the first chapter was against the Skinnies.
- Dizzy was not the hot chick Rico got with. In fact, she had a ****. There were no women in the MI.
Verhoven should be shot in the face for making the cinematic abortion that Starship Troopers was. Someone else should buy the rights to it and make thoughtful movie out of it.
The movie even fails as a satire of the military. Of course a military will looking retarded when:
- the infantry tactics consist of running towards an enemy in a mob, standing around (IN A CIRCLE) shooting a bug, and running away from a bug in a giant mob.
- the navy is so incompetent that if one ship goes down, it causes a catastrophic chain reaction destroying hundreds of ships. The book documented 1 ship crash, between the Valley Forge and the Y Pres during the assualt on Klendathu.
The ONLY redeeming satire in the movie was media censorship. They 'censored' the brainbug getting prodded, but showed a cow get decimated.
I liked the movie the first time I saw it. It was 'cool'. Now that I've read the book (and am re-reading it) I get filled with rage whenever I see that rape of book on FX.
The book is pretty deep. It has very little action and talks about moral philosophy, governments, citizenship, and the military.
Also, bugs aren't stupid like the movie tries to show. The Bugs have spacecrafts, with queens, workers, warriors, and other castes.
In short: I HATE STARSHIP TROOPERS.
The movie. I love the book.
As for FF I loved it so much I got the DVD. A lot of players whined about how it wasn't really very 'final fantasy'-ish... I guess they just wanted yet another hero with super-spiked hair, chocobos and maybe some scenes in the movie where they're walking along empty fields; not a soul as far as the eye can see and suddenly end up being attacked.
I almost agree with rob in the time aspect... what they did was fantastic and well worth watching but many FF freaks are used to games that....
a) ran at <b>their</b> pace
b) lasted as long as several movies
c) had characters they had personally brought up involved in scenes that the player had guided them to.
A movie can't really do that =/
On another fun note, they spent countless millions on getting the main lead character looking as realistic as possible and yet she still looks fake in some scenes while the old doctor looks nothing less than breath-takingly photographic throughout the whole movie. I still can't get over how he looks so amazingly non-CG compared to pretty much the rest of the entire cast o.O
Alien
Predator
Abyss
Equilibrium (Fahrenheit <sp> 451 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
The Matrix trilogy
Umm im not sure if '28 Days Later' is sci-fi or horror
I enjoyed starship troopers, is Pitch black the thing with Vin Disel in it? if so then I enjoyed that movie too.
In fact its hard to hate a sci-fi movie for me, there are so few made I try and support all of them in the hopes that more will be made.
Red Planet however, that movie sucks.