Don't mean to be rude here but the whole point of constellation was to help with the development of NS. No strings attached. Letting people playtest 3.0 is simply a "thank you".
Constellation members are on average only concerned with the outcome and development of NS. Most of us could'nt give a hoot if we playtest. Fluffybunny, as some people don't get constellation status. (regardless of donations) I hope you are one of them.
No one owes you anything for your money that you gave away.
Rub it in why don't ya! This is what I'm talking about. I can understand it taking a few days, or even a couple of weeks, but this is just not fair. You can have your morals if you want, but I want my icon. I've said it before, I'm a greedy SOB, and if i donated, I want recognition like everyone else, who usually get it done within a few days. I also want to know the reason it takes some just a matter of days and a select few a matter of months.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Flayra doesn't owe you anything <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And for $20 yes he does!!!!
$20 isn't worth much in the real world. Do you realize how much he's spent? I can almost certainly guarantee you (although it might be more) that he's spent over a 5 figure amount of dollars. And if there's about 500 consties that donate 20 each, that only accounts for 10,000 dollars, give or take. And you should notice by now the post he's made regarding investing. He is requesting 10,000 <i>from each investor</i>.
Why don't you understand that it's a donation, and not a purchase or regular transaction?... Please be patient.
I don't have the money. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
If Flarya is gonna offer something (Donation for the Beta Build) why not do it right? As soon as he said that people started donating just for that reason. With that said..
If you are gonna market and offer something to the public, as in if you pay you get to play why not let them play when they already payed! Its only logical. If you can't support what you offer to the fullest extent why do this?
Also just because its 3.0 Beta time busy busy, Christmas too..
Well, we also can't forget the fact that he's starting a new company, trying to get NS retail, while managing the whole project, and putting up with threads like this that only waste bandwidth. I'm surprised it's not locked yet.
In no way I was saying that these **** are right for yelling and screaming and making threads about thier poor consellation, I'm just saying you can't avoid the inevitable.
<!--QuoteBegin--DiabolusCaligo+Dec 27 2003, 07:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiabolusCaligo @ Dec 27 2003, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, we also can't forget the fact that he's starting a new company, <b>trying to get NS retail</b>, while managing the whole project, and putting up with threads like this that only waste bandwidth. I'm surprised it's not locked yet.
Please, give him a break... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Uhh...wouldn't VALVe sue them if they DID do that without VALVe purchasing them first?
BTW Fluffy, email him and he'll get it fixed, easy as that. How hard can THAT be?
<!--QuoteBegin--RaVe+Dec 27 2003, 08:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Dec 27 2003, 08:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DiabolusCaligo+Dec 27 2003, 07:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiabolusCaligo @ Dec 27 2003, 07:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, we also can't forget the fact that he's starting a new company, <b>trying to get NS retail</b>, while managing the whole project, and putting up with threads like this that only waste bandwidth. I'm surprised it's not locked yet.
Please, give him a break... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Uhh...wouldn't VALVe sue them if they DID do that without VALVe purchasing them first?
BTW Fluffy, email him and he'll get it fixed, easy as that. How hard can THAT be? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm sure he's going to get a new engine and make NS on that...
Valve wouldn't need to purchase NS. NS would need to purchase the rights to use the engine... For example, Valve doesn't own CS... or, they didn't... I'm not sure now
And yes, they would, which is one reason why Flayra started the new company... It's available to big investor people with money to burn to invest in the company. And if Mr Flayra obtains enough, he would be able to purchase the engine rights (or whatever) to use the engine for retail purposes.
<!--QuoteBegin--DiabolusCaligo+Dec 27 2003, 08:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiabolusCaligo @ Dec 27 2003, 08:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Valve wouldn't need to purchase NS. <b>NS would need to purchase the rights to use the engine</b>... For example, Valve doesn't own CS... or, they didn't... I'm not sure now
And yes, they would, which is one reason why Flayra started the new company... It's available to big investor people with money to burn to invest in the company. And if Mr Flayra obtains enough, he would be able to purchase the engine rights (or whatever) to use the engine for retail purposes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> well, ok if you say so
BUT IT AIN'T MY FAULT IF VALVE STILL SUES EM!!! [/caps]
BTW Maverick102, email Flayra, he's incharge of EVERYTHING for Constellation. Tough job eh? (Reason why people don't get their Const in like ohhh....3 months?)
<!--QuoteBegin--RaVe+Dec 27 2003, 08:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Dec 27 2003, 08:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->BTW Maverick102, email Flayra, he's incharge of EVERYTHING for Constellation. Tough job eh? (Reason why people don't get their Const in like ohhh....3 months?)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bah! I signed up 2 weeks ago and he answered the very same day. I then realized I had made a mistake and replied and he fixed it and replied in like 3 hours.
Dunno. If someone wrote me an email DEMANDING stuff because they DONATED (ie: GAVE money to the cause) I most likely would "forget" to put them on the list... But I am not Flayra.
Now, to the original poster: Don't sweat it, you are not missing that much. Chill and wait a bit, mm'kay? I know, but a bit <i>more</i> then... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
And FluffyBunny: S-T-F-U, mm'kay? <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> Man, I sincerely hope you don't <i>ever</i> get that CM icon. I'd be ashamed to share it with you.
FluffyBunny, if you don't mind cuss words, refer to the link in my Signiture <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--RaVe+Dec 27 2003, 07:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RaVe @ Dec 27 2003, 07:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> BTW Fluffy, email him and he'll get it fixed, easy as that. How hard can THAT be? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I have. once a while ago, and once last nite.
"WTH NO CONSLUTIZATION?! ITS BEEN MONTHS NOW WTH." now i KNOW that was pointed at me. Did I say the word playtest in one of my posts? All I said was constie icon and little blue square, nothing about playtesting.
Okay Fluffybunny, I wouldn't be suprised if you're no older (mentally) than the child in your avatar. FIRST of all, you WILL get your Constellation icon eventually. Whining about it on the forums will only make him take longer to get to you.
Here's what I did: I donated. Once the money cleared PayPal, I waited for 2 weeks. I still didn't have my email, so I sent Flayra an email that said that I had waited two weeks, was told that I should email him if I didn't have it in that time, and then I gave him the eCheque ID, the content of the "Note", the date I sent him the money and the date it cleared PayPal. Within a day, he had emailed me back apologizing and saying that he must have lost the email and that I'm all set up now.
My point? Flayra may have just misplaced your email. Send him a POLITE email to flayra@overmind.org and explain your situation. Provide proof of your payment and the information he requests when you send your payment. Also, give him the date you sent it. And remember: Flayra is more likely to respond to an email that says "Excuse me, Flayra, but I'm sending this email to you because I'm concerned about my Constellation donation. I donated on <date> and I still haven't received a response. If you need proof, here is my eCheque ID: <x>. Also, here is the note that was sent with the donation..." rather than one that says "WTH FLAYRA I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR <x> MONTHS NOW! WHERE THE **** IS MY CONSTELLATION ICON?! FIX IT NOW!!!!" He's only human and he deserves respect, too.
if I said that, and then something about playtesting, and you don't want to playtest, then it must not be directed at you <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
EpidemicDark Force GorgeJoin Date: 2003-06-29Member: 17781Members
<!--QuoteBegin--JezPuh+Dec 27 2003, 12:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (JezPuh @ Dec 27 2003, 12:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MrMojo+Dec 27 2003, 06:26 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrMojo @ Dec 27 2003, 06:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I hope you never get it. Honestly. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yup, I'm all with Mojo on this. You seem like an **** to me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Or perhaps he is just concerned about Flayra really have gotten the money? <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Constellation members are on average only concerned with the outcome and development of NS. Most of us could'nt give a hoot if we playtest. Fluffybunny, as some people don't get constellation status. (regardless of donations) I hope you are one of them.
No one owes you anything for your money that you gave away.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Flayra doesn't owe you anything <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And for $20 yes he does!!!!
Why don't you understand that it's a donation, and not a purchase or regular transaction?... Please be patient.
the thing that probably cost the most was the voice recordings
If you are gonna market and offer something to the public, as in if you pay you get to play why not let them play when they already payed! Its only logical. If you can't support what you offer to the fullest extent why do this?
Also just because its 3.0 Beta time busy busy, Christmas too..
You cant think ahead?
Just my 2 sense.?
Please, give him a break...
And this didnt just happen during christmas. Iheard of these cases a while back..so w/e
Please, give him a break... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Uhh...wouldn't VALVe sue them if they DID do that without VALVe purchasing them first?
BTW Fluffy, email him and he'll get it fixed, easy as that. How hard can THAT be?
Please, give him a break... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Uhh...wouldn't VALVe sue them if they DID do that without VALVe purchasing them first?
BTW Fluffy, email him and he'll get it fixed, easy as that. How hard can THAT be? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sure he's going to get a new engine and make NS on that...
And yes, they would, which is one reason why Flayra started the new company... It's available to big investor people with money to burn to invest in the company. And if Mr Flayra obtains enough, he would be able to purchase the engine rights (or whatever) to use the engine for retail purposes.
And yes, they would, which is one reason why Flayra started the new company... It's available to big investor people with money to burn to invest in the company. And if Mr Flayra obtains enough, he would be able to purchase the engine rights (or whatever) to use the engine for retail purposes. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well, ok if you say so
BUT IT AIN'T MY FAULT IF VALVE STILL SUES EM!!! [/caps]
BTW Maverick102, email Flayra, he's incharge of EVERYTHING for Constellation. Tough job eh? (Reason why people don't get their Const in like ohhh....3 months?)
Bah! I signed up 2 weeks ago and he answered the very same day. I then realized I had made a mistake and replied and he fixed it and replied in like 3 hours.
Dunno. If someone wrote me an email DEMANDING stuff because they DONATED (ie: GAVE money to the cause) I most likely would "forget" to put them on the list... But I am not Flayra.
Now, to the original poster: Don't sweat it, you are not missing that much. Chill and wait a bit, mm'kay? I know, but a bit <i>more</i> then... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
And FluffyBunny: S-T-F-U, mm'kay? <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> Man, I sincerely hope you don't <i>ever</i> get that CM icon. I'd be ashamed to share it with you.
And its Dark and fo00gly. And you could always fall on the website for promotion and everything seems to lack (am i making sense)
Lock this. Everyone stop whining about this, this feels like everyone whining for 3.0
I have. once a while ago, and once last nite.
"WTH NO CONSLUTIZATION?! ITS BEEN MONTHS NOW WTH."
now i KNOW that was pointed at me. Did I say the word playtest in one of my posts? All I said was constie icon and little blue square, nothing about playtesting.
Here's what I did: I donated. Once the money cleared PayPal, I waited for 2 weeks. I still didn't have my email, so I sent Flayra an email that said that I had waited two weeks, was told that I should email him if I didn't have it in that time, and then I gave him the eCheque ID, the content of the "Note", the date I sent him the money and the date it cleared PayPal. Within a day, he had emailed me back apologizing and saying that he must have lost the email and that I'm all set up now.
My point? Flayra may have just misplaced your email. Send him a POLITE email to flayra@overmind.org and explain your situation. Provide proof of your payment and the information he requests when you send your payment. Also, give him the date you sent it. And remember: Flayra is more likely to respond to an email that says "Excuse me, Flayra, but I'm sending this email to you because I'm concerned about my Constellation donation. I donated on <date> and I still haven't received a response. If you need proof, here is my eCheque ID: <x>. Also, here is the note that was sent with the donation..." rather than one that says "WTH FLAYRA I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR <x> MONTHS NOW! WHERE THE **** IS MY CONSTELLATION ICON?! FIX IT NOW!!!!" He's only human and he deserves respect, too.
Yup, I'm all with Mojo on this.
You seem like an **** to me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or perhaps he is just concerned about Flayra really have gotten the money? <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->