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ToneeTonee Wub wuBUK Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21926Members, Constellation
I didnt knoww here to post it so here i go....

WTH is this? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> i start up steam and this is what happens
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  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    edited December 2003
    I believe that would be one of many steam errors, congratulations on being one of many billions of people who have or will be receiving this error. Merry Christmas from steam!!

    (just wait till their new years bug, gonna blow y2k outta the water)

    Actually i cant help you except for the fact that you might wanna reinstall steam. Consider moving this to tech forum.

    - RD
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Roger Dodger+Dec 18 2003, 08:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roger Dodger @ Dec 18 2003, 08:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I believe that would be one of many steam errors, congratulations on being one of many billions of people who have or will be receiving this error. Merry Christmas from steam!!

    (just wait till their new years bug, gonna blow y2k outta the water)

    Actually i cant help you except for the fact that you might wanna reinstall steam. Consider moving this to tech forum.

    - RD <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Look! Look! I can bash steam because IT'S COOL!

    Gimme a break. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Reinstalling steam would be the first item on the list, mostly because it looks like a corrupted exe or something. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ToneeTonee Wub wuB UK Join Date: 2003-10-25 Member: 21926Members, Constellation
    winn0r <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    i was gonna reinstall at first but just wondered if there was another way to fix.
  • Roger_DodgerRoger_Dodger Join Date: 2003-03-11 Member: 14392Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Look! Look! I can bash steam because IT'S COOL!

    Gimme a break.  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Did i specifically bash steam?? No i simply mentioned the fact that steam is like my bed sheets at the moment for bugs.

    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    - RD
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    It's absolutly pathetic that you missed <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=29&t=56884' target='_blank'>this</a> thread in the veteran forum, tony, but rather made your own in the general forum, even though it should be in the technical help forum.

    Oh and btw the solution to your problem is in that link.
  • FrickenMoronFrickenMoron Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9498Members
    I heard deleting the file ClientRegistry.blob in the steam folder helps.
    I reinstalled instead, and it worked :/
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    OMG that ALIEN IS GONNA BITE the STEAM ERROR !!!!!!!
  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Ollj+Dec 18 2003, 03:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ollj @ Dec 18 2003, 03:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OMG that ALIEN IS GONNA BITE the STEAM ERROR !!!!!!! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OMG..Z0R!!11!

    I hope it misses and eats Kazaa "The Virus" Lite.
  • ExtremeExtreme Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24225Members
    Restart your comp... didn't work? Reformat. (If you take me seriously.... I'll laugh)

    I had an error almost the same as that one about 2 hrs ago. My comp got fuxored so I system restored and tried steam 5 mins ago and got the error agian. I read on the steam site, that the update last night fuxored some steams, so thats probably the problem. I just started up steam to get a ss for my error, but it works now and updated, so I guess the problem is solved... got screwed out of 2 hrs of ns playing, my life has no meaning now.
  • S2R2S2R2 Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21209Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Delphi+Dec 18 2003, 08:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Delphi @ Dec 18 2003, 08:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Roger Dodger+Dec 18 2003, 08:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roger Dodger @ Dec 18 2003, 08:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I believe that would be one of many steam errors, congratulations on being one of many billions of people who have or will be receiving this error. Merry Christmas from steam!!

    (just wait till their new years bug, gonna blow y2k outta the water)

    Actually i cant help you except for the fact that you might wanna reinstall steam. Consider moving this to tech forum.

    - RD <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Look! Look! I can bash steam because IT'S COOL!

    Gimme a break. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Reinstalling steam would be the first item on the list, mostly because it looks like a corrupted exe or something. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It looks like bad code or he useing it on a non suported OS.
    Bad code seems more llikely.
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--S2R2+Dec 18 2003, 05:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (S2R2 @ Dec 18 2003, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It looks like bad code or he useing it on a non suported OS.
    Bad code seems more llikely. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    he is on XP
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Uninstall steam. Re-install steam. It will work now.
  • SandrockSandrock Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10905Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Close Steam, delete ClientRegistry.blob, restart Steam. If that doesn't work, reinstall.
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    start your comp
    go to start and find your steam folder
    us the uninstall
    get off your computer and talk a cool shower
    play on won
  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    People hate steam so much cuz it crashes so much, with good reason. I'm sure if it didn't use 10x the CPU as WON with 100x more chance of crashing they would love it.
  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    Maybe is every update didn't cause steam to crash repeatedly or delete itself, we could give it some respect.

    Hopefully valve can figure it out before they shut down WON.
  • Stanley_txpStanley_txp Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21426Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Dec 18 2003, 11:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Dec 18 2003, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe is every update didn't cause steam to crash repeatedly or delete itself, we could give it some respect.

    Hopefully valve can figure it out before they shut down WON. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    but it does not mess up on <i>every</i> update, i have only had 1 problem, which was easaly remedied.
  • Death_RevenantDeath_Revenant Join Date: 2003-11-17 Member: 23035Members
    steam is probably the most HATED computer program after viruses pop-ups and ads.........

    GOOD JOB FOR MAKING ONE OF THE MOST PLAYED GAMES COMPLETELY RELIABLE ON SUCH LOVED PEACE OF SOFTWARE!!!!!!!!
  • bLuIShbLuISh Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16559Members
    edited December 2003
    i have gotten that error before, and i fixed it by deleting the .blob file and letting it re-update. deleting that .blob file will fix MOST of steams errors =P as for that won suggestion, badd BAAD! won is crap, time to use the good stuff (steam) sure its buggy here and there, but, its still better than that poor excuse for online gaming (won).

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->steam is probably the most HATED computer program after viruses pop-ups and ads.........

    GOOD JOB FOR MAKING ONE OF THE MOST PLAYED GAMES COMPLETELY RELIABLE ON SUCH LOVED PEACE OF SOFTWARE!!!!!!!! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    hated by n00bs who cant figure things out.
    (not bashing people who have the errormaxdistance crap, just people who try steam, get one error, than decide to hate it, i respect people who come on the forums and ask for help, it means they want to learn and use a good program and not quit like an 11 year old would)

    i run 2ghz, 512 ddr 3200 ram, geforce4ti4200 128mb, sound blaster audigy, all with latest drivers and i have NO problems with steam at all, for you n00bs with a 200mhz, windows 95, cardboard speakers and monitor and other pieces of crap, well im sorry, its time to upgrade or get a job to upgrade, i paid for my computer parts (all of them, motherboard, case, fans etc) and built my computer, im only 16, is it so hard to raise up 100 bucks when you got a parttime with parents covering room/board? lol seriously

    "puts on n00b-retardant flame suit"
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    pony the tiger is such a great name
  • bLuIShbLuISh Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16559Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maverick102+Dec 18 2003, 03:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maverick102 @ Dec 18 2003, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--S2R2+Dec 18 2003, 05:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (S2R2 @ Dec 18 2003, 05:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It looks like bad code or he useing it on a non suported OS.
    Bad code seems more llikely. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    he is on XP <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats hilarious...

    S2R2 cmon man...ive seen worse n00b mistakes than that
    hehehe, ill be damned if that isnt winxp using classic and its actually something else.
  • S2R2S2R2 Join Date: 2003-09-25 Member: 21209Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--bLuISh+Dec 19 2003, 03:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (bLuISh @ Dec 19 2003, 03:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->i have gotten that error before, and i fixed it by deleting the .blob file and letting it re-update. deleting that .blob file will fix MOST of steams errors =P as for that won suggestion, badd BAAD! won is crap, time to use the good stuff (steam) sure its buggy here and there, but, its still better than that poor excuse for online gaming (won).

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->steam is probably the most HATED computer program after viruses pop-ups and ads.........

    GOOD JOB FOR MAKING ONE OF THE MOST PLAYED GAMES COMPLETELY RELIABLE ON SUCH LOVED PEACE OF SOFTWARE!!!!!!!! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    hated by n00bs who cant figure things out.
    (not bashing people who have the errormaxdistance crap, just people who try steam, get one error, than decide to hate it, i respect people who come on the forums and ask for help, it means they want to learn and use a good program and not quit like an 11 year old would)

    i run 2ghz, 512 ddr 3200 ram, geforce4ti4200 128mb, sound blaster audigy, all with latest drivers and i have NO problems with steam at all, for you n00bs with a 200mhz, windows 95, cardboard speakers and monitor and other pieces of crap, well im sorry, its time to upgrade or get a job to upgrade, i paid for my computer parts (all of them, motherboard, case, fans etc) and built my computer, im only 16, is it so hard to raise up 100 bucks when you got a parttime with parents covering room/board? lol seriously

    "puts on n00b-retardant flame suit"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I run steam on a P3 866 with a Al-In-wonder 7500 and have never had an error with it however the stablity of the Os may take a part in it. I am running it in Windows 200 pro. and they may have written it to run in this Os orginaly. I find In most of my cases Errors happen when something goes wrong with you Os like i said or it bad code. However what i like is this<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> STEAM BASICS

        * What are the system requirements for Steam?


    Windows 98, ME, 2000 or XP
    64 MB RAM
    400 Mhz processor
    1GB HD space (strongly recommended)
    Broadband Internet connection (recommended but not required)

    It is also recommended that Steam be installed on a hard disk formatted using NTFS. Fat32 drives will work, but performance will be slower.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They wrote it work under windows 98 And they say you should install to a NTFS drive or else you will lose performane but Windows 98 only suports Fat 32... Also how can you recommend a amount fot HD space? you need a certain amount to install.
  • KeyserKeyser Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13591Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Stanley_txp+Dec 18 2003, 11:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stanley_txp @ Dec 18 2003, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Dec 18 2003, 11:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Dec 18 2003, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe is every update didn't cause steam to crash repeatedly or delete itself, we could give it some respect.

    Hopefully valve can figure it out before they shut down WON. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    but it does not mess up on <i>every</i> update, i have only had 1 problem, which was easaly remedied. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then you got lucky and missed the two (possibly more) updates (were recalled) that deleted your steam cached files so you'd have to to a total reinstall. Other updates like this one do something wierd, such as delete server lists, cause steam to crash on startup, etc.

    I'm getting to the point where if I see steam start to update, I'm going to close it immediately and wait for feedback.
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Dec 19 2003, 08:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Dec 19 2003, 08:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Stanley_txp+Dec 18 2003, 11:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stanley_txp @ Dec 18 2003, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Keyser59+Dec 18 2003, 11:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Keyser59 @ Dec 18 2003, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Maybe is every update didn't cause steam to crash repeatedly or delete itself, we could give it some respect.

    Hopefully valve can figure it out before they shut down WON. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    but it does not mess up on <i>every</i> update, i have only had 1 problem, which was easaly remedied. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Then you got lucky and missed the two (possibly more) updates (were recalled) that deleted your steam cached files so you'd have to to a total reinstall. Other updates like this one do something wierd, such as delete server lists, cause steam to crash on startup, etc.

    I'm getting to the point where if I see steam start to update, I'm going to close it immediately and wait for feedback. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No wonder you're an armory humper.

    Steam got a bad start for whatever reason and has been ridiculed ever since.

    If you'd get off your lazy arse and actually update the damned thing, you might see that it's one of the better ways into internet gaming. On top of that, it's <b><i>FREE</i></b>, meaning your jobless 16 year old self don't pay nuttin for it. So if you'd like to bash it and whine about how much it crashes, kindly make a competitor that doesn't do that, since you know SOOO much about this kind of stuff.

    The friends list makes games fun again; you can see who's playing where, join them, and even auto-retry joining to get into those difficult servers. No tapping space then frantically double clicking hoping you beat out that n00b.
    The server selection list is resizable, sortable (And supports multi-sorting, so if you sort by name, then number of players, it'll sort by number of players, but if two have the same player count, it'll then sort by name, etc), and very very customizable. You can download all your games (TFC, DOD, CS, etc.) right off the browser with no problems, as long as it's not on a wednesday night/thursday morning. It's nice for those times when you just wanna do something new. "hhmm. Haven't played TFC in a bit."

    All I've seen online now is people bashing steam and saying won is god because they don't KNOW any better. Won was nice, but it's a security blanket. Once you open up your eyes, you see there's a whole nother world out there.. a nice one with lots of neat features that you're missing because you have to look "cool" by bashing a wonderful, wonderful FREE FREE FREE program.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Is there anyone on these forums that used WON in it's (very) early days? I didn't even know HL existed then, so I wouldn't know for sure, BUT...
    Talesin, who claims he did play that early on, said that WON was about 10 times as bad as Steam was in it's early form. I suppose you could ask him on IRC if this is correct, I'm not 100% sure myself.
  • Alurcard2Alurcard2 Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18614Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->After yesterday's release, Steam was crashing for some users on startup. A fix for this problem has just been released. When you restart Steam, you'll automatically download the fixed version. As always, let us know if you run into problems.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Could that be the problem ?
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    C'mon guys...

    <img src='http://www.seacoastnh.com/arts/res/smokey.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'>

    Stop with the flaming, jeez.
  • SchmeebisSchmeebis Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23782Members
    C'mon guys, how many people played Half-Life when it came out in 1998? It was terribly buggy, and WON was slow and unreliable. HL used to freeze my computer in multiplayer all the time. Steam is early software, so give it some time. It is a shame that Valve can't get their crap together and make a professional piece of software on the first release, but look at history: Valve never has. Their software starts out great from a production value point-of-view, and buggy as hell from a stability point-of-view.

    Steam, like it or not, is all we'll have next year. If you want to put your head in the sand and play on WON, be prepared to have a rude awakening in 2004 when you have to scramble to get Steam installed while everyone else in the world is downloading it. It's better to learn the nuances and bugs now, and how to fix them, than stressfully scrambling at the last minute in January so you can play NS.

    Go to steampowered.com and download the 500KB minimal Steam installer. From there, you can have Steam give you the games you want, which is much faster than direct-downloading or signing up for some crappy FilePlanet UserID.

    Wr0d.
  • PalinPalin Join Date: 2003-03-24 Member: 14848Members
    I can vouch for Talesin.

    WON in its infancy was incredibly inefficient, unreliable, and often times unavailable if you didn't live in one of 3 major US cities. It took at least 6 months before playing on the dreaded "Internet" was a viable option to actually playing the single player game and enjoying (in my opinion) one of the best interactive storylines for an FPS in years and years to come. Even then, you still had to be nominally close to a major city to recieve decent pings as phone dialers were still being slaughtered with 300+ pings compared to the ritzy 100- LPB's living in their metropolitan suburbia with mommy and daddy forking over the bill.

    I'd say that it took WON well into a 1.5 year life existence before it could even be comparable to what Steam is now... and that's ignoring the vast featureset disparity.
  • WeltschmerzWeltschmerz Join Date: 2003-09-03 Member: 20538Members
    IMHO:

    Hear, hear. After cruising through much of the stuff on Steam transition on this and other forums, views pro and con etc. (and not being a developer, programmer, mapper or other 'professional' in Mods), I'm coming to this conclusion: STEAM may end up being slightly more a bad idea for NS than a good one, or (as some have said) a poor solution to a problem that doesn't really exist. These early tries and trials by players (I'm sure it's working perfectly the first time for SOME people <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> ) are laying groundwork for those (like me) that won't switch until we're absolutely forced to, to keep playing NS. For what it's worth, to all those out there struggling with it and posting their problems, thanks.

    I'll try hard to make STEAM work because I love NS (though 1st impressions of 3.0 changelogs are NOT encouraging, like the spikeless lerk), but only when WON is gone forever. Since it's highly unlikely things will work the first time I'll give it a couple days, re-read forums, check out the latest bugs and fixes, etc. Maybe by that time, more bugs will have been worked out- or STEAM will have been abandoned for NS... It took me a couple weeks to iron out bugs on NS using 56K (and without All-Seeing Eye or anything) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    But if, after trying all that and it still doesn't work (or I've had to do things that no reasonable developer should expect out of people who just want to PLAY rather than code, tweak or even hack STEAM to make it work)... ***** it. I'll just go buy HL2 and not futz around with online playing (and the occasionally twitchy systems that support it) anymore. (sigh).... Not looking forward to getting Steamed, hopefully it'll hold out 'till after New Years at least...
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