Legolas and Gimli do not leave Middle-Earth. They left the Hobbits at Isengard, after exploring the caves of Helms Deep as Legolas as Gimli promised to do. Then Gimli went in to the Fangorn Forest with Legolas as he (Gimli) had promised to do.
Trust my word on this, I just finished the book (again) today. Very well written part.
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Read the Appendix Smoke?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1541 In this year[Fourth Age(Gondor) 120] on March 1st came at last the Passing of King Elessar. It is said that the beds of Meriadoc and Peregrin were set beside the bed of the king. Then Legolas built a grey ship in Ithilien, and sailed down Anduin and so over Sea; and with him, it is said, went Gimli the Dwarf. And when that ship passed an end was come in Middle-earth of the Fellowship of the Ring.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It would be really cool in the extended DVD if they added some of those little Appendix parts. Just little clips that show what happened to all of the main characters. Of course, that might already be in the movie, does anybody have some information about that?
I have just seen Return of the King <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (they let me in the cinema too yay!! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> )
I have three words that best describe the film to others who have not seen it:
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'> See It Now. </span>
<!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Dec 18 2003, 02:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Dec 18 2003, 02:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Ryo-Ohki+Dec 18 2003, 11:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Dec 18 2003, 11:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CRAP. Though I know I did see some 'making of' pictures somewhere and they were filming this scene... so fingers crossed for Extended Edition! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope. Never shot. It was cut out of the films a long way back, because as I've previously stated, it wrecks the entire ending. I'm quite happy for Jackson to cut it; he made the right decision here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dude, I seriously saw shots for this... it had burning mills and everything happening...
My fingers will be crossed for Extended Addition inclusion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I to have seen shots for this filmed and even remember last year just before TTT came out there was an interview on TV with the actors who played Merry and Pip and they said that they had to go back to New Zealand to finish filming the end sceen in the shire for RotK.
So indeed fingers crossed for special edition <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
This is one of the best movies I have ever seen, with only one real complaint in that some scenes seemed to drag on far too much and the ending did too. Other than those two minor quibbles, this is easily the best of the trilogy and the best movie released this year.
Incidently, there is no scouring of of the shire planned in the extended DVD from what I remember.
<!--QuoteBegin--Aegeri+Dec 19 2003, 07:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Dec 19 2003, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is one of the best movies I have ever seen, with only one real complaint in that some scenes seemed to drag on far too much and the ending did too. Other than those two minor quibbles, this is easily the best of the trilogy and the best movie released this year.
Incidently, there is no scouring of of the shire planned in the extended DVD from what I remember. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well they filmed it so they will probably use it :/ they hobbits coming back to the shire was left vague enough in the cinema version so that it could be added in.
<!--QuoteBegin--V-MAN+Dec 19 2003, 02:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Dec 19 2003, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Aegeri+Dec 19 2003, 07:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Dec 19 2003, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is one of the best movies I have ever seen, with only one real complaint in that some scenes seemed to drag on far too much and the ending did too. Other than those two minor quibbles, this is easily the best of the trilogy and the best movie released this year.
Incidently, there is no scouring of of the shire planned in the extended DVD from what I remember. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well they filmed it so they will probably use it :/ they hobbits coming back to the shire was left vague enough in the cinema version so that it could be added in. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> They didn't film it, I have no idea why you have that idea, but they didn't.
Very moving parts to it. The sheer silence in the theatre as these lines where spoken just sucked you right in.
In the last 30 mins some people started to clap every time to screen went blank or there was a long period of silence. Then there would be another 5 mins and they'd clap again once they got impatient, etc. I went to a show that ended at 1:00am so for me the ending felt VERY drawn out. It was conclusive though, i just felt like the scene with Sam going home to his wife could have been cut. The slow-mo capture of a lot of the end scenes annoyed me as well. We seemed to be staring at Sam and Frodo for a good 30 seconds each, or at least it felt like it.
The perfect ending for me would've been : Aragon becoming king> Boat leaving with Gandalf, Frodo, Bilbo, etc > the other hobbits watching the boat go off into the distance> fade to black.
4.5/5 just because i was getting grumpy at the end.
Well, I'd argue that a movie triology going almost ten hours in the 'light' edition deserves an ending longer than twenty seconds <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Yes, I was growing a little restless, as well, but all in all, I fealt they wrapped it up rather nicely.
In the last 30 mins some people started to clap every time to screen went blank or there was a long period of silence. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That happend when I went to go see the movie last night.
ROTK was great and I might go see it again.
Another good part of the movie was the previews at the start, It showed a cool ad for Chronicals of Riddic wich I have been looking forward to for some time now <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
i am kind of disappointed that the eowyn/faramir thing got nothing more than a passing hint, although now that i think about it it would have been hard to fit in the movie without slowing it down as it is right between some of the most intense action scenes (battle of Minas-Tirith and the battle at the black gates of Mordor). And IIRC eowyn was wounded when she stabbed the nazgul lord, it felt weird when i saw merry get thrown back when he stabbed the nazgul and yet eowyn hardly even blinked.
but overall, it was an extremely good movie. It definitely is one of the most powerful films I've ever seen across the board (seven samurai, the other lotr films although this one is the best of the three imo...the way it should be, la amistad, among others).
*edit* was i the only one who thought the film editing was a little choppy in some places? maybe it was just the theater's copy.
Just came back from watching it. Only quip is that in the book, the fight between Eowyn and Nazgul was supposed to be a big deal, but all the other soldiers were busy off fighting the average orc and ignoring their own king. <b>DAMN YOU PEOPLE, AT LEAST SHOW SOME CONCERN FOR YOUR SOVERIGN!</b>. If I recall correctly, the arrival of the Nazgul in the battlefield was supposed to be a huge morale zapper, and was won back when Eowyn struck him down. But everyone was too busy getting stomped by oliphants to notice. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
Even though they had to sacrifice details, had to be the most accurate one by far, and overall a great movie.
One thing I have to ask though: in the book Samwise was supposed to have gone back as well, but was this supposed to be a period of time after, when they come back to fetch Samwise? They didn't make too much of a point about it, but in the book, he was the third ringbearer, and as such, had a right to land of the elves. A lot of my friends felt that Samwise could of just pushed Frodo off the cliff and did the entire task himself... he was basically the only hobbit that didn't screw up. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I think someone should put Planescape: Torment into Peter Jackson's mailbox and see what he wants to do with that. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Well I just got back from seeing it. Man was it long, almost 4 hours. But man oh man did it ROCK. Awesome awesome. Definately my favorite of the three.
Nem, i think you don't have to worry: I'm quite sure that the LOTR movies will be the "Star Wars" of this generation. Lets hope The Hobbit doesn't have midiclorians.
Oh and Vigil, I agree completely. I was trying very very hard not to yell "Bring out your dead" when the nut was trying to burn his son...
Also I couldn't resist but say aloud "Its JESUS" when Agent Smith.. errm.. whoever.. welcomes Bilbo aboard the boat at the end. :P
My only complaint, and I say this without having read any of the books, so I'm sure you'll all be dying to lynch me, is that I feel that much like the other two movies this one was simply too long with unnecessary scenes. Its a movie, not a novel, and thus things must be cut or summarized for the purposes of entertainment w/o ticking the audience off. While ROTK was definately not as bad as LOTR and TTT (where I feel at least an hour should have been cut from each) there were still a few parts of ROTK that weren't necessary. Particularly I was getting quite bored near the end when its like "omg, aragon and the kingdom are bowing down, frodo is the man, its over lets go" but noo there's TWENTY MINUTES LEFT WTH? They could have started rolling the credits when the camera panned out onto the shot of the kingdom, because everything that happened after that was either implied that it would happen or wasn't explained enough to make any sense any way. They should have just let me go pee 20 minutes earlier rather than making me squirm in the chair some more (had to pee since Frodo was in the cave w/ the spider).
And why the hell did Frodo have to leave at the end? They didn't even explain it. Was he really dead and just there for a bit like Gandalf was? Or was he like some zombie ghost? Or did he just overcome with jealousy that Pippin married Rosie (or whoever) instead?
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edited December 2003
<!--QuoteBegin--Confuzor+Dec 20 2003, 09:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Confuzor @ Dec 20 2003, 09:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> One thing I have to ask though: in the book Samwise was supposed to have gone back as well, but was this supposed to be a period of time after, when they come back to fetch Samwise? They didn't make too much of a point about it, but in the book, he was the third ringbearer, and as such, had a right to land of the elves. A lot of my friends felt that Samwise could of just pushed Frodo off the cliff and did the entire task himself... he was basically the only hobbit that didn't screw up. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You mean take a ship over the sea?
Years and years later, after Rosie dies, he heads out West on his own. He meets his daughter on the borders of the Shire, and tells her he's going to the Grey Havens. Tolkien doesn't actually say whether he took a ship to Aman, but I assume that he did.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And why the hell did Frodo have to leave at the end? They didn't even explain it. Was he really dead and just there for a bit like Gandalf was? Or was he like some zombie ghost? Or did he just overcome with jealousy that Pippin married Rosie (or whoever) instead?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because his wounds (from the Witch King and Shelob) never healed, and perpetually troubled him, and he found no happines in Middle-earth. As he'd been given an opportunity to leave with the Elves and Gandalf, he did.
<!--QuoteBegin--tankefugl+Dec 18 2003, 12:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tankefugl @ Dec 18 2003, 12:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Best part: The counter-attack lead by Faramir when Pippin sang to Denethor.
I wish there was more of Eowyn, though <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Indeed. That was some very nice juxtaposing done by Jackson there.
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best film ever made... when you have read the books.. you gona die... its just... great.. no words can describe that
and no, the film is not to long, hes to short.. some important things are missing, but well, the film is even with those missing scenes better than everything ive seen in my live and... well.... its just great(not, its more, but... no words can describe that)
<!--QuoteBegin--Bosnian+Dec 20 2003, 11:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bosnian @ Dec 20 2003, 11:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think someone should put Planescape: Torment into Peter Jackson's mailbox and see what he wants to do with that. :) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The best I have heard all week. Month. No, all year, really.
Samwise's Busty Wife <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Excellent. That guy was pumping out kids like there was no tommorow.
<!--QuoteBegin--Aegeri+Dec 19 2003, 07:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Dec 19 2003, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--V-MAN+Dec 19 2003, 02:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Dec 19 2003, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Aegeri+Dec 19 2003, 07:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Dec 19 2003, 07:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is one of the best movies I have ever seen, with only one real complaint in that some scenes seemed to drag on far too much and the ending did too. Other than those two minor quibbles, this is easily the best of the trilogy and the best movie released this year.
Incidently, there is no scouring of of the shire planned in the extended DVD from what I remember. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Well they filmed it so they will probably use it :/ they hobbits coming back to the shire was left vague enough in the cinema version so that it could be added in. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> They didn't film it, I have no idea why you have that idea, but they didn't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> So the actors that played Merry and Pip were telling lies when they were interviewed by Jonathan Ross on TV prior to the release of TTT last year?
<!--QuoteBegin--V-MAN+Dec 20 2003, 03:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Dec 20 2003, 03:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So the actors that played Merry and Pip were telling lies when they were interviewed by Jonathan Ross on TV prior to the release of TTT last year? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Filthy little hobbits, we told you they were tricksy.
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<!--QuoteBegin--Wheeee+Dec 20 2003, 04:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Dec 20 2003, 04:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And IIRC eowyn was wounded when she stabbed the nazgul lord, it felt weird when i saw merry get thrown back when he stabbed the nazgul and yet eowyn hardly even blinked. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> no you silly billy!
<span style='color:yellow'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><b>SPOILAR</b></span></span> she recoiled, dropped her sword, and yelled in pain.
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<!--QuoteBegin--@gentOrange+Dec 20 2003, 07:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (@gentOrange @ Dec 20 2003, 07:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Samwise's Busty Wife <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Excellent. That guy was pumping out kids like there was no tommorow. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I KNOW...
my friend was like "damn, she's pretty hot for a hobbit."
Just got back from seeing this, All I can say is awesome really.
My favourite part had to be the start of the huge battle. When the trolls were firing the catapults that destroyed alot of the building, but then they threw parts of the building back at them. GREAT :S
This is the movie that never ends... it just goes on and on and on....
Seroiusly though, the end was not all that great. The battle scenes were excellent, gollum was actually rather good as the comic relief, and everything went together really well. Mybe it was just the Big Gulp sized Moutain Dew working on me, but I felt the end was really long and did'nt explain anything all that well. I mean, they took out the part where Frodo, Sam, Mery, and Pippin return to the Shire to find it overtaken, and then they whip out their uberswords and win the Shire back. Also. the reason why Frodo leaves isn't really explained. He looks happy enough in the film, but in the book, he's having serous ring withdrawal symptoms. That's why he leaves.
<!--QuoteBegin--DOOManiac+Dec 20 2003, 07:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Dec 20 2003, 07:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh so he chooses to leave.. In the movie it seemed as if he wasn't given any choice in the matter... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> He's leaving middle earth because of the damage that the ring has done to his mind and body basically. If you notice the others are also all ringbearers of one sort or another as well (Including Bilbo, he carried the ring before Frodo remember) and as such that is why they are leaving.
I do agree that was poorly explained.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> actors that played Merry and Pip were telling lies when they were interviewed by Jonathan Ross on TV prior to the release of TTT last year? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--V-MAN+Dec 19 2003, 05:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Dec 19 2003, 05:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Dec 18 2003, 02:07 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Dec 18 2003, 02:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Ryo-Ohki+Dec 18 2003, 11:45 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Dec 18 2003, 11:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> CRAP. Though I know I did see some 'making of' pictures somewhere and they were filming this scene... so fingers crossed for Extended Edition! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nope. Never shot. It was cut out of the films a long way back, because as I've previously stated, it wrecks the entire ending. I'm quite happy for Jackson to cut it; he made the right decision here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dude, I seriously saw shots for this... it had burning mills and everything happening...
My fingers will be crossed for Extended Addition inclusion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I to have seen shots for this filmed and even remember last year just before TTT came out there was an interview on TV with the actors who played Merry and Pip and they said that they had to go back to New Zealand to finish filming the end sceen in the shire for RotK.
So indeed fingers crossed for special edition <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The scouring of the shire was mentioned in this interview...... dunno how I could missunderstood that. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just because YOU have not heard of this part of the story being filmed does not mean it wasn't. The fact is IT was filmed and if it will be added into the special edition (which I really hope it will because it has the death of Sauraman in) only time will tell.
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Trust my word on this, I just finished the book (again) today. Very well written part.
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In this year[Fourth Age(Gondor) 120] on March 1st came at last the Passing of King Elessar. It is said that the beds of Meriadoc and Peregrin were set beside the bed of the king. Then Legolas built a grey ship in Ithilien, and sailed down Anduin and so over Sea; and with him, it is said, went Gimli the Dwarf. And when that ship passed an end was come in Middle-earth of the Fellowship of the Ring.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have three words that best describe the film to others who have not seen it:
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>
See
It
Now.
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CRAP. Though I know I did see some 'making of' pictures somewhere and they were filming this scene... so fingers crossed for Extended Edition!
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Nope. Never shot. It was cut out of the films a long way back, because as I've previously stated, it wrecks the entire ending. I'm quite happy for Jackson to cut it; he made the right decision here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dude, I seriously saw shots for this... it had burning mills and everything happening...
My fingers will be crossed for Extended Addition inclusion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I to have seen shots for this filmed and even remember last year just before TTT came out there was an interview on TV with the actors who played Merry and Pip and they said that they had to go back to New Zealand to finish filming the end sceen in the shire for RotK.
So indeed fingers crossed for special edition <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Incidently, there is no scouring of of the shire planned in the extended DVD from what I remember.
Incidently, there is no scouring of of the shire planned in the extended DVD from what I remember. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well they filmed it so they will probably use it :/ they hobbits coming back to the shire was left vague enough in the cinema version so that it could be added in.
Incidently, there is no scouring of of the shire planned in the extended DVD from what I remember. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well they filmed it so they will probably use it :/ they hobbits coming back to the shire was left vague enough in the cinema version so that it could be added in. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
They didn't film it, I have no idea why you have that idea, but they didn't.
In the last 30 mins some people started to clap every time to screen went blank or there was a long period of silence. Then there would be another 5 mins and they'd clap again once they got impatient, etc. I went to a show that ended at 1:00am so for me the ending felt VERY drawn out. It was conclusive though, i just felt like the scene with Sam going home to his wife could have been cut. The slow-mo capture of a lot of the end scenes annoyed me as well. We seemed to be staring at Sam and Frodo for a good 30 seconds each, or at least it felt like it.
The perfect ending for me would've been : Aragon becoming king> Boat leaving with Gandalf, Frodo, Bilbo, etc > the other hobbits watching the boat go off into the distance> fade to black.
4.5/5 just because i was getting grumpy at the end.
Yes, I was growing a little restless, as well, but all in all, I fealt they wrapped it up rather nicely.
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That happend when I went to go see the movie last night.
ROTK was great and I might go see it again.
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just multiply this statement times 12,000:
it was very good.
i am kind of disappointed that the eowyn/faramir thing got nothing more than a passing hint, although now that i think about it it would have been hard to fit in the movie without slowing it down as it is right between some of the most intense action scenes (battle of Minas-Tirith and the battle at the black gates of Mordor). And IIRC eowyn was wounded when she stabbed the nazgul lord, it felt weird when i saw merry get thrown back when he stabbed the nazgul and yet eowyn hardly even blinked.
but overall, it was an extremely good movie. It definitely is one of the most powerful films I've ever seen across the board (seven samurai, the other lotr films although this one is the best of the three imo...the way it should be, la amistad, among others).
*edit* was i the only one who thought the film editing was a little choppy in some places? maybe it was just the theater's copy.
Even though they had to sacrifice details, had to be the most accurate one by far, and overall a great movie.
One thing I have to ask though: in the book Samwise was supposed to have gone back as well, but was this supposed to be a period of time after, when they come back to fetch Samwise? They didn't make too much of a point about it, but in the book, he was the third ringbearer, and as such, had a right to land of the elves. A lot of my friends felt that Samwise could of just pushed Frodo off the cliff and did the entire task himself... he was basically the only hobbit that didn't screw up. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Nem, i think you don't have to worry: I'm quite sure that the LOTR movies will be the "Star Wars" of this generation. Lets hope The Hobbit doesn't have midiclorians.
Oh and Vigil, I agree completely. I was trying very very hard not to yell "Bring out your dead" when the nut was trying to burn his son...
Also I couldn't resist but say aloud "Its JESUS" when Agent Smith.. errm.. whoever.. welcomes Bilbo aboard the boat at the end. :P
My only complaint, and I say this without having read any of the books, so I'm sure you'll all be dying to lynch me, is that I feel that much like the other two movies this one was simply too long with unnecessary scenes. Its a movie, not a novel, and thus things must be cut or summarized for the purposes of entertainment w/o ticking the audience off. While ROTK was definately not as bad as LOTR and TTT (where I feel at least an hour should have been cut from each) there were still a few parts of ROTK that weren't necessary. Particularly I was getting quite bored near the end when its like "omg, aragon and the kingdom are bowing down, frodo is the man, its over lets go" but noo there's TWENTY MINUTES LEFT WTH? They could have started rolling the credits when the camera panned out onto the shot of the kingdom, because everything that happened after that was either implied that it would happen or wasn't explained enough to make any sense any way. They should have just let me go pee 20 minutes earlier rather than making me squirm in the chair some more (had to pee since Frodo was in the cave w/ the spider).
And why the hell did Frodo have to leave at the end? They didn't even explain it. Was he really dead and just there for a bit like Gandalf was? Or was he like some zombie ghost? Or did he just overcome with jealousy that Pippin married Rosie (or whoever) instead?
You mean take a ship over the sea?
Years and years later, after Rosie dies, he heads out West on his own. He meets his daughter on the borders of the Shire, and tells her he's going to the Grey Havens. Tolkien doesn't actually say whether he took a ship to Aman, but I assume that he did.
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Because his wounds (from the Witch King and Shelob) never healed, and perpetually troubled him, and he found no happines in Middle-earth. As he'd been given an opportunity to leave with the Elves and Gandalf, he did.
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Indeed. That was some very nice juxtaposing done by Jackson there.
and no, the film is not to long, hes to short.. some important things are missing, but well, the film is even with those missing scenes better than everything ive seen in my live and... well.... its just great(not, its more, but... no words can describe that)
The best I have heard all week. Month. No, all year, really.
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Well they filmed it so they will probably use it :/ they hobbits coming back to the shire was left vague enough in the cinema version so that it could be added in. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They didn't film it, I have no idea why you have that idea, but they didn't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
So the actors that played Merry and Pip were telling lies when they were interviewed by Jonathan Ross on TV prior to the release of TTT last year?
Filthy little hobbits, we told you they were tricksy.
no you silly billy!
<span style='color:yellow'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><b>SPOILAR</b></span></span> she recoiled, dropped her sword, and yelled in pain.
I KNOW...
my friend was like "damn, she's pretty hot for a hobbit."
i was like "DUDE!!! she... well, yeah, she is."
My favourite part had to be the start of the huge battle. When the trolls were firing the catapults that destroyed alot of the building, but then they threw parts of the building back at them. GREAT :S
Seroiusly though, the end was not all that great. The battle scenes were excellent, gollum was actually rather good as the comic relief, and everything went together really well. Mybe it was just the Big Gulp sized Moutain Dew working on me, but I felt the end was really long and did'nt explain anything all that well. I mean, they took out the part where Frodo, Sam, Mery, and Pippin return to the Shire to find it overtaken, and then they whip out their uberswords and win the Shire back. Also. the reason why Frodo leaves isn't really explained. He looks happy enough in the film, but in the book, he's having serous ring withdrawal symptoms. That's why he leaves.
He's leaving middle earth because of the damage that the ring has done to his mind and body basically. If you notice the others are also all ringbearers of one sort or another as well (Including Bilbo, he carried the ring before Frodo remember) and as such that is why they are leaving.
I do agree that was poorly explained.
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Or you misunderstood what they said.
CRAP. Though I know I did see some 'making of' pictures somewhere and they were filming this scene... so fingers crossed for Extended Edition!
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Nope. Never shot. It was cut out of the films a long way back, because as I've previously stated, it wrecks the entire ending. I'm quite happy for Jackson to cut it; he made the right decision here. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Dude, I seriously saw shots for this... it had burning mills and everything happening...
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I to have seen shots for this filmed and even remember last year just before TTT came out there was an interview on TV with the actors who played Merry and Pip and they said that they had to go back to New Zealand to finish filming the end sceen in the shire for RotK.
So indeed fingers crossed for special edition <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The scouring of the shire was mentioned in this interview...... dunno how I could missunderstood that. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Just because YOU have not heard of this part of the story being filmed does not mean it wasn't. The fact is IT was filmed and if it will be added into the special edition (which I really hope it will because it has the death of Sauraman in) only time will tell.