Help Meh!

DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
<div class="IPBDescription">No more disk space, but....</div> ok heres the problem, i got Condition Zero and i wanted to install it on my c drive, well unfortunetly it gets to 76% and it turns out i have 0 MB of space left =/. well i got all of these warnings and such so i had to delte massive amount of programs to get it to a safe level, well i have CZ so wut to do with it now? well it turns out i have (i think) 2 Hard drives, 1 C the other D, my C drives file system is a FAT32. my D drives file system is a NTFS. with 41.2 gb left, so heres when i need help, is there a way i can somehow just install CZ onto my D drive or move other programs into my D drive so i could at least defrag (need at least 15% mines at 1% =/) so how do i move other programs into my D drive? (if it IS even a D drive) please help <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • SandrockSandrock Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10905Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Cant do much for the installed programs except uninstall and reinstall on the D drive. You can copy and paste all your music/movies/pictures though.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited November 2003
    will this take out MB from the C drive?, oh and theres 1 big problem, 76% of CZ is installed on my Cdrive somewhere, its not in a folder, or fiels, i cant find it AND theres no option to uninstall because it couldnt finish installing, so i could at least have 10% of my Cdrive free, now i have 1% <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->


    btw, steam is taking ALOT i mean ALOT of the space so how do i move it? make a Program Files folder in my D drive and put Steam folder in there? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    Ugh. Never ever ever EVER EVER <b>EVER</b> (And I mean <b><i>NEVER</i></b>) install ANYTHING on your system partition. Thanks.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Nov 18 2003, 03:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Nov 18 2003, 03:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> will this take out MB from the C drive?, oh and theres 1 big problem, 76% of CZ is installed on my Cdrive somewhere, its not in a folder, or fiels, i cant find it AND theres no option to uninstall because it couldnt finish installing, so i could at least have 10% of my Cdrive free, now i have 1% <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Normally installers (at least new ones) uninstall already installed files if there was an error installing the program.

    Uninstall CZ off your C Drive.

    Defrag C+D drive.

    Reinstall CZ on D drive.

    BTW i heard CZ was crap...
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 18 2003, 04:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 18 2003, 04:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ugh. Never ever ever EVER EVER <b>EVER</b> (And I mean <b><i>NEVER</i></b>) install ANYTHING on your system partition. Thanks. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    um, whats a system partition? my D drive? or NTFS?
  • SandrockSandrock Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10905Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited November 2003
    First of all, if CZ was a good program, it would check to make sure you had the necessary disk space to begin with, which it obviously didn't do.

    If there was not enough space to finish installing the game, the installer should have deleted the files that were installed.

    Uninstall all unnecessary programs and reinstall them to your D drive. Also move all of your media over. Try running a disk cleanup on the C drive by going to My Computer, right clicking the C drive, selecting properties, and clicking the Drive Cleanup button. This should remove any temporary internet files, temporary install files and things of that nature (freed up over 400 MB on my C drive once).

    If all else fails, repent and reformat.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited November 2003
    well i would have checked if i boguht the game, my friend is getting a new comp cuz his broke so he gave me the CD with the CD key =/

    and what is a system partition? and is my D drive a HARD drive? its not a fat32 <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    Partitions are simply one hard drive (physcial unit) sliced up into smaller segments. That means if you have a 40 GB disk, you can slice it up in any way you want. You can have only one partition large 40GB or two of them, large 20 both or just any other combination you want.

    I'm also not sure if you're getting the disk and partition terms right. You said you have two disks, C and D, but I think you have only one with two partitions, those being C and D.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Nov 18 2003, 04:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Nov 18 2003, 04:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well i would have checked if i boguht the game, my friend is getting a new comp cuz his broke so he gave me the CD with the CD key =/

    and what is a system partition? and is my D drive a HARD drive? its not a fat32 <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    System partion is the partion of your HDD which contains Windows/Linux/or what ever O/S you are using.

    If your computer is partioned like this, i recommend you do.

    I have one 120gb partioned into :

    C drive (Windows partion. 8 gb)

    D drive (Games/apps 80gb)

    E drive (downloads, other stuff 32gb)
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    Also, partitions are like floodgates. If something corrupts your windows install, or the partition fails, everything on C: can easilly be replaced, if you have nothing but drivers and system files on it.

    At least he *has* a partition. God I can't stand people with one 60 gb C: drive, and about 21,000 icons on their desktop for 'AOL TRIAL OFFER' and crap like that.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    edited November 2003
    well i do PHYSICALLY have 2 HD's in my tower, (top 1 is C drive, 1 under that is D), so when i copy n paste my programs over do i delte the ones in the C drive afterward?, btw jimmehs way of setting it up sounds pretty good for organization i might try that way <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->


    AND:, should i move Steam over to my D? or will it stop working properly or soemthing? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    edited November 2003
    If you just copy and paste, you're making COPIES. You have to delete those files on the previous partition then...
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    so my D is a partition not a spereate hard drive? (b/c like i said i phisically have 2 HD's in my tower) =/
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Er... are you trying to put it on the NTFS or FAT drive
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    Diablus, how big are your drives?
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    Okay, either way you do it, between 6 and 10 gb for a C: drive is ideal. The real size depends on how much RAM you have. If you have a lot of RAM, you have a larger pagefile, and therefore will need more C: space.

    Second: Don't just cut-paste programs. They're tied into the registry as being located at... pretend... 1943 C Drive Blvd. The registry will want to look there for the program but won't be able to find it. Now for some programs this won't have an effect. Other programs depend on the registry for information (Adboe Photoshop, for example), and won't work properly. Generally it's best to just reinstall everything over. This is also much 'cleaner'.

    Finally: Be sure to stick to your organization system. My C: drive has:

    Windows XP
    Drivers
    Microsoft Office (Was an accident, but I don't mind)
    Various system tools, like adAware, Norton, etc.

    Also on my C: drive is my desktop. Anything you put on your desktop takes up C: space. I occasionally will dump things there for temporary storage.

    So the end result is my C: drive is a throwaway drive. If I need to reinstall windows, I can safely and completely CLEANSE the drive with format.com, and loose nothing important <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Nov 18 2003, 05:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 18 2003, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Er... are you trying to put it on the NTFS or FAT drive <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NTFS
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Nov 18 2003, 04:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 18 2003, 04:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Er... are you trying to put it on the NTFS or FAT drive <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's a good point. I don't use NTFS, and I'm not sure if the filesystem will reject the FAT32 like a bad kidney.
  • xioutlawixxioutlawix Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7118Members, Constellation
    Hrmph, I dig the partition thing, I take it that it keeps the computer nice and speedy to keep the windows on one partition....I've got two drives, both 40 gigs each. C is just 40 gigs with xp, program files, music and downloads. The Other drive is installed games, purely.
    I don't suppose there's a way to organize this system now short of reformatting. Then again, wouldn't mind. PC is running pretty sweet.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    I recommend you just format the two drives. Partion the C drive into two, one 5-10gb and another one with whatevers left (lets call this E drive)

    Convert C, and E to NTFS.

    Install your O/S (XP i presume) onto drive C (the 5-10gb one)

    Install all required Apps into the E drive if its big enough.

    Install all games/downloads onto drive D.

    Or do whatever suits you, but you should definetly have <i>some</i> sort of file organization, and all your drives should be NTFS if you have alot of ram (at least 512mb).
  • uranium_235uranium_235 Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9478Banned
    Music and downloads aren't in the registry, they can easilly be moved.


    If you want to repartition WITHOUT reformatting the drive, use <b>Partition Magic</b>. It's a bit wonky (I somehow ended up with 8 gigs of 'phantom' drive space on mine, but somehow got rid of it eventually) but it lets you manage your drive perfectly.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Diablus+Nov 18 2003, 04:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Nov 18 2003, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Nov 18 2003, 05:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 18 2003, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Er... are you trying to put it on the NTFS or FAT drive <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    NTFS <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ok nm not the problem I thought
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    hmm well i put Steam into the D drives Program files, and it seems it couldnty find Steam.exe, so i just had to move steam back tomy c drive where it works <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Lightning_BlueLightning_Blue Sunny Domination Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10647Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Nov 18 2003, 02:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Nov 18 2003, 02:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Ugh. Never ever ever EVER EVER <b>EVER</b> (And I mean <b><i>NEVER</i></b>) install ANYTHING on your system partition. Thanks. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I disagree.

    I have a 20 gig system partition. On it goes windows, and all my utility programs (Office, MIRC, etc.), and I have no fear of it filling up, it's just impossible. I do have other partitions for Steam, data, downloads, games, music, etc.

    I'm a die hard partition freak. <img src='http://www.lunixmonster.net/forums/html/emoticons/1zhelp.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image'> Get Partitionmagic, it'll pay for itself <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    As far as cutting and pasting programs, I've had the best luck doing this with my HL folder. Same folder, been thorough 5 or 6 PC's <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    well i moved all of my media files into the D (which cleared up ALOT of space <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> , and so if i want to put steam into my D i would have to uninstall steam, then rienstall it into my D? and i should get "PartitionMagic"?
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    Ok, well, one thing to do is to delete your Windows restore points.

    Do this by going to Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> DiskCleanup

    Click on More Options. On the bottom is System Restore. Click the button marked clean up.

    It easily deletes a gigabyte of data at least. Also remember to clean up other parts of your hard drive by deleting Temp files and by uninstalling programs/games that you don't use.

    Hope this helps.

    Also, don't forget you can change the default directory for installation, so you could put it on D:/
  • Lightning_BlueLightning_Blue Sunny Domination Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10647Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    Not unless you plan to do a lot of partion juggling. I love it for being able to resize partitions and even move them to another drive.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    I have a "free" (if you know what i mean) version of Partion Magic, however i rarley use it because its tricky (well you have to do alot of dragging and its inaccurate) so i normally just do it "the old fashioned way"

    However i recommend you get it if you've never partioned a drive before.

    Backup any models/custom stuff you have in your steam folder, uninstall steam, then reinstall it on the D drive
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    damn, well i installed CZ into my d drive, but when i looked at the free space on my C drive i saw it constantly dropping, until i stopped the installation to the D, what happened? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • RPG_JssmfulhudRPG_Jssmfulhud Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4006Members
    edited November 2003
    Those were most probably the temporary files clogging up your system partition. Try changing the temporary folder's location to the partition that has more (enough) space. I have all the swap files on my I partition, which holds more than enough (system partition 5 GB, I partition - 40 GB). <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    EDIT: Typo.
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