9600 Xt A Flop?

BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
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It's certainly better than the 9600 pro (by a small amount), and it is only $200.... but did it live up to the pre-release hype?

<a href='http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1671/' target='_blank'>http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1671/</a>
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    They said it was going to perform around the level of cards about twice its price. I knew this couldnt be true, so I figured it might be a little below the lines of a 9700 non pro. When I saw benchmarks I decided to stop waiting and coughed up extra cash for a Hercules 3D Propher 9700 Pro. Too bad the one they sent me had a capacitor that wasnt souldered on, and the heat sink wasnt attatched. Not to mention a bunch of the ram sinks were glued on about 4/5th of the way off of the chips. Needless to say I'm still waiting for those lazy **** I ordered from to give me an RMA number so I can send it back.
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  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    Good job ATI, the graphics leader of screwing people over.
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  • CreepieCreepie Join Date: 2003-02-19 Member: 13734Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Nov 17 2003, 11:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Nov 17 2003, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Good job ATI, the graphics leader of screwing people over. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pfft - they all do, have done, will always do. No change there.
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  • eedioteediot Join Date: 2003-02-24 Member: 13903Members
    im going to hire mini-skulks and Gnomes dressed as Marines to pretend to be playing NS inside a cardboard box with a window cut out

    and im going to shoot them all down with a pop gun


    Life is good, and cheap!
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  • Ugly_JimUgly_Jim Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10235Members
    remember the GeForce2Ti? the XT is even more useless
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    Actually, once ATi releases the drivers that enable the special functions on the XT. (They're not in the current Catalysts, I believe...) The card automatically overclocks. So once that feature is enabled, then yes. It will perform a lot better, depending on the cooling in your case. If it detects an overheat, it'll downclock itself. If it sees that it's still in the safe zone for temperature to overclock, it'll overclock itself.
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  • spinviperspinviper Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16151Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Nov 17 2003, 11:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Nov 17 2003, 11:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Good job ATI, the graphics leader of screwing people over. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dumb-Arse...
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    edited November 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Nov 17 2003, 11:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 17 2003, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad the one they sent me had a capacitor that wasnt souldered on, and the heat sink wasnt attatched. Not to mention a bunch of the ram sinks were glued on about 4/5th of the way off of the chips. Needless to say I'm still waiting for those lazy **** I ordered from to give me an RMA number so I can send it back. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aww, poor you.

    I got mine from Crucial (in the UK) and it gives me much joy.

    So don't blame ATI, blame the supplier.

    *edit* Ironically I could have waited and payed much less for one though; I only bought it when I did because back then we all thought HL2 was coming out on the 30th..... *edit*
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  • xioutlawixxioutlawix Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7118Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nil_IQ+Nov 18 2003, 09:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Nov 18 2003, 09:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So don't blame ATI, blame the supplier. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ding ding ding, we have a winner <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nil_IQ+Nov 18 2003, 09:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Nov 18 2003, 09:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Nov 17 2003, 11:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 17 2003, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad the one they sent me had a capacitor that wasnt souldered on, and the heat sink wasnt attatched. Not to mention a bunch of the ram sinks were glued on about 4/5th of the way off of the chips. Needless to say I'm still waiting for those lazy **** I ordered from to give me an RMA number so I can send it back. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Aww, poor you.

    I got mine from Crucial (in the UK) and it gives me much joy.

    So don't blame ATI, blame the supplier.

    *edit* Ironically I could have waited and payed much less for one though; I only bought it when I did because back then we all thought HL2 was coming out on the 30th..... *edit* <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Where in that post did I say it was ATI's fault? Of course its the supplier.
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  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    When they said its supposed to beat cards twice its price they are kinda right.

    Heard somewhere that overclocking it wise its one of the best cards you can get, and can almost perform as well as the 9800.

    Kinda like the fact that the Duron 1.8ghz is the best value AMD chip you can get, as you can overclock it to 2.5ghz and no other AMD is that overclockable
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Jimmeh!+Nov 18 2003, 04:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jimmeh! @ Nov 18 2003, 04:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When they said its supposed to beat cards twice its price they are kinda right.

    Heard somewhere that overclocking it wise its one of the best cards you can get, and can almost perform as well as the 9800.

    Kinda like the fact that the Duron 1.8ghz is the best value AMD chip you can get, as you can overclock it to 2.5ghz and no other AMD is that overclockable <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uh not really. Considering its still running 128 bit interface with only four pixel pipelines. Core and ram frequency only go so far.
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  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    But the point is that you shouldn't need to overclock it for it to live up to its claims!
    If ATI promises it can do it, they should mean right-out-of-the-box!
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Nov 18 2003, 04:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Nov 18 2003, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> But the point is that you shouldn't need to overclock it for it to live up to its claims!
    If ATI promises it can do it, they should mean right-out-of-the-box! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The drivers they make for it do it automatically, you don't have to do a thing.
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  • Vulgar_MenaceVulgar_Menace Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22118Members
    thats kind of stupid.
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  • Cereal_KillRCereal_KillR Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1837Members
    doesn't that mean that if your card dies because it was overheating they can't blame it on overclocking (breaking warranty) ?
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  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Cereal_KillR+Nov 18 2003, 05:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Nov 18 2003, 05:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> doesn't that mean that if your card dies because it was overheating they can't blame it on overclocking (breaking warranty) ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes.
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  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--OttoDestruct+Nov 18 2003, 04:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (OttoDestruct @ Nov 18 2003, 04:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Where in that post did I say it was ATI's fault? Of course its the supplier. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Ah, sorry.

    It was Commie and Creep slagging off ATI.

    *fights urge to start another Nvidea vs ATI war*
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