R9800+ns=20fps?
alienchickenpie
Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12710Members
Join Date: 2003-01-25 Member: 12710Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Good cards, lame performance</div> I've recently upgraded my Video Card to a Radeon 9800. Everything is nice and smooth except for NS. It's around 100 FPS when I'm in the RR, drops to the 60's ingame and drops even further to 20 when I'm in a base or a hive location. I tried messing with the settings, I used the refresh-rate progs but my FPS still sucks. What should I do?
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use 16bits color
cl_highdetail 0
off ur dymaic light in "customise"
update ur agp driver
defrag ur comp
try not to use the latest ati driver as most of the problem come from there
try using 2.5 catalyist
edit: I meant 3.9, not 2.9 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
use 16bits color
cl_highdetail 0
off ur dymaic light in "customise"
update ur agp driver
defrag ur comp
try not to use the latest ati driver as most of the problem come from there
try using 2.5 catalyist <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I know, I'm saving for an upgrade.
I'm using Catalyst 3.9.
Are you sure about the other stuff? It doesn't make sense, my GFMX handled them easily, so my 9800 is supposed to run even better.
and the other thing i suggested is from various guides and my personal experience
I've got a Radeon 9800 Pro with the latest drivers (Catalyst 4.3), and an Athlon 1800+ on Windows XP SP1 with 512 DDR RAM on a fresh disc format. I get solid 60 fps in OpenGL most of the time (which is fine for me) but in heavy areas it can drop to around 30, which is not acceptable. Vsync is enabled because I get frame tearing otherwise. Even when I crank it down to 640x480 it can dip to the 30s.
TRUFORM is always off, and when I downgrade to below Catalyst 3.8 or so I start getting a lot weirder problems than just an FPS drop.
I know my CPU is a bit on the low end as far as most CPUs go, but it seems like it should be fine to play NS. I've been thinking of upgrading to an Athlon 64 3000+ and getting a new motherboard. Would that help?
(edit) Tried Catalyst 3.9, did not help the problem.
I've got a Radeon 9800 Pro with the latest drivers (Catalyst 4.3), and an Athlon 1800+ on Windows XP SP1 with 512 DDR RAM on a fresh disc format. I get solid 60 fps in OpenGL most of the time (which is fine for me) but in heavy areas it can drop to around 30, which is not acceptable. Vsync is enabled because I get frame tearing otherwise. Even when I crank it down to 640x480 it can dip to the 30s.
TRUFORM is always off, and when I downgrade to below Catalyst 3.8 or so I start getting a lot weirder problems than just an FPS drop.
I know my CPU is a bit on the low end as far as most CPUs go, but it seems like it should be fine to play NS. I've been thinking of upgrading to an Athlon 64 3000+ and getting a new motherboard. Would that help?
(edit) Tried Catalyst 3.9, did not help the problem. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have exactly the same issue with my 9600XT (1800XP, XP Pro SP1, 512DDR).
Haven't found a solution yet so I just live with it.
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Oh and BTW, have you tried out the SMARTShader stuff? It's really friggin cool. Try playing NS in inversed colors. Really cool as aliens, gets you more into the game <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> . And "sketch" mode makes it look like you have x-ray vision (no textures, renders the background in black and "draws" the edges of models in white). And if you want to play Matrix-style, put it on "green ascii art." It renders EVERYTHING in green ascii, and if you stick with it for a half-hour you actually get used to it. Wish there was a way to make the font smaller, though.
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Try upgrading to newer ram (not just ammount, PCBus RAM = better than DDR SD = better than plain SD = better than plain RAM)
Try overclocking the CPU by~5%
Try removing undused thrings from the HD
Try running msconfig in the RUN bar and preventing un-needed things from starting (I run abuot 15 things in the background, mostly for networking stuff <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Try re-installing STEAM and NS. You may have done something to a configuration file it doesn't like... happened to me
You might have an 9800 XT, picard, but by computer is:
Athlon 2800+ (overclocked to 3000)
Abit NF7-S mobo (MCP-T, with the real nForce2 SoundStorm APU, not some Realtek) with 1024 MB 400 MHz dual-channel ram, timings 2-6-3-3
1x80GB SATA HD
1x80GB IDE HD
TTGI Superflower 420W PS
Try upgrading to newer ram (not just ammount, PCBus RAM = better than DDR SD = better than plain SD = better than plain RAM)
Try overclocking the CPU by~5%
Try removing undused thrings from the HD
Try running msconfig in the RUN bar and preventing un-needed things from starting (I run abuot 15 things in the background, mostly for networking stuff <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)
Try re-installing STEAM and NS. You may have done something to a configuration file it doesn't like... happened to me <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
This happens on a fresh format with new installs of Steam, NS and video drivers. I have basically nothing running in the background. I'd be really surprised if it were a memory issue. My guess it has something to do with the CPU or video drivers/settings.
Does that really help? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Does that really help? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've tried it and unless I did something wrong, I found no improvements.
Does that really help? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've tried it and unless I did something wrong, I found no improvements. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Alright, this sucks <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I think I'm just gonna get a 9800 Pro, and if I've have worse FPS than now, I'll just send that card back and get myself a nice Geforce :x
Ati Radeon 9800 Pro
1024mb Kingston hyperX DCDDR RAM
Everything runs smoothly, exept for UT2k4 @ 1600x1200 all max.
@ ns, i've even got special high-quality config, it works perfectly.
Also running the second-newest Catalysts.
Dont use the latest catalysts, those are bugged.
Why do peopl have trouble with radeons and ns? :-/
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Try setting those to 0.
They are enabled by default, so disabling them may do the trick.
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Try setting those to 0.
They are enabled by default, so disabling them may do the trick. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
They don't do the trick.
this is beyond a doubt, JUST valve's problem.
NS works fine. All the time. 1024x768 with 16xAF
And yeah, Smartshaders own <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> I don't have the Matrix one, though.