[wip] Project X Handgun

MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
edited October 2003 in NS Customization
Being kind of a cross between the default pistol, and njroo's picture in <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=19&t=49553' target='_blank'>this thread</a>.

Opinions on it so far (only an hour's work)? I'm thinking it may be a little too narrow, but that might just be because I'm used to the big beefy deagle I use. It currently stands at under 400 polys, so there's lots of detail yet to be added.

edit: i.e. I'm posting this to ask sheena what I'm doing wrong ^^
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  • IcejellyIcejelly Join Date: 2003-06-10 Member: 17176Members
    One word.

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:orange'>Sexay.</span></span>
  • SkitZoFrenicSkitZoFrenic Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13252Banned
    How would u actually USE the knife? it seems like....it would be difficult to use....if its even possible to atk w/ it
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Its a nice idea but you probably want a bigger flatter blade, for more of a chopping action. Basically a big cleaver.

    I'd run the the blade from the tip of the barrel down to the actual grip, big and flat. That way it protects the bulk of the hand and is more conducive to a chopping action (because tbh I don't see much force going behind a pistol grip bayonet poke).
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SkitZoFrenic+Oct 6 2003, 06:57 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkitZoFrenic @ Oct 6 2003, 06:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How would u actually USE the knife? it seems like....it would be difficult to use....if its even possible to atk w/ it <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good point. I suppose a knife would be better for stabbing than slashing. How about if I have it covered but extendable, so it can be both pokey and a bit gunblade-y?
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Yes I know its paint, so bite me.

    Anyhow, here's what I mean:
  • TwiggyTwiggy Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17785Members
    :O that is soo sweet!

    just make the pistol a bit more beefy, and im gonna cream my pants

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    If you were going to try for thin and narrow, you'd have to make the handle more swept back, so you could put a thumb on top to get more power (consider a fencing foil).

    In fact, if you look at flintlock pistols with bayonets (afaik the ONLY pistol to be equipped with a bayonet) you'll see that they are POINT weapons and combined with the shape of the grip they are more like mini fencing foils.

    <a href='http://www.thesteelsource.com/html/D1041.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.thesteelsource.com/html/D1041.htm</a>

    See? Observe the handle and needle point bayonet.

    <a href='http://store.knifecenter.com/pgi-ProductSpec?1052GT' target='_blank'>http://store.knifecenter.com/pgi-ProductSpec?1052GT</a>

    This is more saber oriented. Note where the pistol mechanism is. In this case its more like a sword with a gun on top. The saber shown can still be used for thrusting though, so the grip is straight to allow some bladework.

    My big chunky concept isnt designed for sport fencing, its designed for chopping things up with something a bit more powerful than a pistol whip. Cleavery. Shape of the blade works with the movement of the hand - allowing cleaving or pistol shooting without complicated motion.


    IMHO against Kharaa you'd probably want a cutting tool, since if they're truly bacteria based, chances are they lack anything approximating a major organ. A cutting tool allows you to hack bits off as opposed to a stabbing weapon which needs to hit some sort of major component.

    Attached is a pic showing (badly) what you'd have to do if you intend to realistically use your handgun with a pointed blade.
  • xxDarkSlayerxxxxDarkSlayerxx Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18346Members
    edited October 2003
    WOOOT This Pistol <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/uploads/post-19-1065421430.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->...looks really cool WANT IT...and im using NS Steam woot <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->)
  • rabbityrabbity Join Date: 2003-07-02 Member: 17866Members
    cool pistol, kinda like the one used by the vampire leader at the last part in Blade II
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    <a href='http://www.blade2.com/html/images/2nd_concept-art_art_03.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.blade2.com/html/images/2nd_conc...-art_art_03.jpg</a>

    Hm, thought it looked familiar. Though I thought I'd seen it in a game <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->


    Anyhow, my points on the technicalities of using it still stand. The Blade-y style one is a chopper with a good gun, the flintlock a point weapon with a good gun, and the saber is a point/edge weapon which unfortunately sacrifices on the gun aspect.

    I feel like such a threadjacker <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> I didn't mean it!
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Necrosis+Oct 6 2003, 09:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necrosis @ Oct 6 2003, 09:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Attached is a pic showing (badly) what you'd have to do if you intend to realistically use your handgun with a pointed blade. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why not go the distance and make it entirely a gunblade. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • XiileXiile Join Date: 2003-02-22 Member: 13818Members
    /me has idea <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Borrow nthngnsd's LMG/Knife script then convert it to Pistol/Knife. Then this will be really fun <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> (if you dont know what nthngnsd's LMG/Knife script is, its a script where when you right click it will automatically switch to knife and attack until you let go of mouse2. Then it will switch to LMG again.)
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Yeah a gunblade isnt far from that saber I linked. Though I dread to think how you'd weight a gunblade it make it:

    A) Easy to swing.
    B) Accurate enough to shoot with.
    C) Be able to cut with it.


    Bit too unrealistic, imho.
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    edited October 2003
    Having come to the conclusion that having what's essentially a bayonet on a pistol is an incredibly dumb idea, I took it off. Here's pistol version 3:
  • TwiggyTwiggy Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17785Members
    noooo...!

    plz put the huge knifey on!

    ..of at least make 2 versions..

    /me gets down on my knees and begs
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Knife fetish very much apparent on the forums.
  • TwiggyTwiggy Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17785Members
    knifes r teh pwn <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • PFCNublarPFCNublar Join Date: 2003-04-23 Member: 15792Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Maus+Oct 6 2003, 11:46 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maus @ Oct 6 2003, 11:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Having come to the conclusion that having what's essentially a bayonet on a pistol is an incredibly dumb idea, I took it off. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yay! At least Maus hasn't gone raving mad yet <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->!
  • WindelkronWindelkron Join Date: 2002-04-11 Member: 419Members
    just be careful holstering it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Pretty odd that for a "dumb idea" its been repeated many times in many forms down the ages.

    *shrugs*
  • farcryfarcry Join Date: 2003-06-22 Member: 17614Members
    any chance of a lam? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    Has anyone ever modeled a Gun blade yet?
    I'm thinking Squall's Gunblade from FF8
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    Update, and apart from a few details I think this is pretty much how the final one will look.
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    Looks like a slicked up version of the original. Nice!
  • nthngnsdnthngnsd Join Date: 2003-07-26 Member: 18442Members
    cool render <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MalambisBZMalambisBZ Join Date: 2002-11-21 Member: 9559Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--farcry+Oct 6 2003, 11:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (farcry @ Oct 6 2003, 11:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> any chance of a lam? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oh god no.. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • UlatohUlatoh Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 10982Members
    <img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/images/pistol_final_full.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>





    similar, no?

    not accusing you of anything, the designs just been done before
  • NecrosisNecrosis The Loquacious Sage Join Date: 2003-08-03 Member: 18828Members, Constellation
    I point you to my earlier comment.

    IMHO its like the Resource Tower - it fits in with the NS universe but it's not quite the defaults.

    Personally I think it looks fine. Though I have to say giving it a sharpy and making it do double duty as the knife was a bit more of a break from the norm, and made it (IMHO) certainly more popular with players looking for "cool" or "quirky" models.
  • XiileXiile Join Date: 2003-02-22 Member: 13818Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--farcry+Oct 6 2003, 02:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (farcry @ Oct 6 2003, 02:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> any chance of a lam? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    /me pulls out trout
    diediedie!
    /me attacks you with trout
  • MausMaus Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5599Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--MalambisBZ+Oct 6 2003, 09:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MalambisBZ @ Oct 6 2003, 09:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--farcry+Oct 6 2003, 11:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (farcry @ Oct 6 2003, 11:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> any chance of a lam? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    oh god no.. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    YES!

    (oh and ulatoh - if you look at <b>the first post</b> you'll see me acknowledge it's inspired in part by the default pistol)
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