Yellowstone Popping It's Top?

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<div class="IPBDescription">Paranoia or an impending catastrophe?...</div> ...<ominous voice><i>You decide!</i> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

Yellowstone SuperVolcano Update
By Dr. Bruce Cornet
Geologist, Paleobotanist, and Palynologist
9-8-3

Mt. Sheriden has been rumbling (15+ micro-quakes) between 1:00 pm and now (9/7/03). There were three small earthquakes at Yellowstone lake between 10:00 am and 1:00 pm MT (9/7/03), which were felt at Norris Junction. There were some small quakes between Midnight and 6:00 am (9/7/03) at Norris Junction. There was a whole string of micro-quakes (25 or more) at Madison River between 6:00 am and now, which are continuing. There have been sporadic micro-quakes (32+) all day at Mammoth Hot Springs. Micro-quakes started around Noon and have continued to the present at Mirror Lake Plateau. All in all, activity is picking up from a lull for about two weeks, before which a series of small and large quakes (including a 4.4) occurred. That quake prompted the web report.

Steam pressure is apparently building again, and hydrothermal fluids and steam are working their way up through fractures and vents. I do not expect anything unusual or extreme to happen in the immediate future, but if the trend continues, and the number of earthquakes gradually increase with time, more warnings from geologists will ensue.

What you should be alert to is any report that mentions increasing geyser activity, with new fumaroles and steam vents appearing near or on top of the rising dome. The dome has risen about three feet in the past few years, and magma has risen to within 3.7 km of the surface based on quake data. Earthquake loci measured to within 0.5 km under Mt. St. Helens, and people still didn't think it would erupt.

But everything has to be scaled up for Yellowstone, meaning that 3.7 km is not a safe depth. Ground temperatures in the northwestern part of the park are apparently on the rise (up to 200 dg F in some places), killing the vegetation. Large areas of the park are now closed, including areas with geysers, because their water temperature is now scalding and dangerous for visitors.

If more steam vents appear, that means a continuous pathway for pressure release has been established to the magma chamber. If that happens, the pressure in the magma chamber will continue to drop until it reaches a critical stage when the superheated water within the magma explodes. When that happens the super-volcano will blow violently, blowing out a chunk of its cap-rock and sending millions of cubic feet of ash into the atmosphere in a Pompeii-like explosion, but 100,000 times worse.

When you hear those reports, you will have about two days to "get out of Dodge" before the eruption. Unfortunately, as the steam venting subsides, there will be a false sense of security. People will think it was just another cyclical event, and the danger is over. But that will be the farthest from the truth. It will be the quiet before the storm. A major earthquake will suddenly rock their towns for hundreds of kilometers around Yellowstone, and soon thereafter 1,000+ degree pyroclastic flows will descend on them at hundreds of miles per hour, extending out to 600+ km.

That 600 km radius around the caldera will experience total devastation. The next 600 km out may receive as much as 5-10 feet of ash, depending on wind direction. The thickness of ash will decrease away from the super-volcano, but will reach the crop belt in the Midwest (Missouri, Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska, etc.), destroying most of the fertile croplands of the United States. California will be hit hard by falling ash, with its central wine valley severely damaged (the French will love it). Agriculture will have to shift east of the Mississippi for years. The Garden State will once again live up to its name.

In northern Idaho you will have to contend with several feet of ash and isolation. Roads will be closed. Power will be out. Phones will be out. Communication will depend on Ham radios and local stations that have generators. Rescue will take weeks or months. Some areas will never see rescue teams. The survivalists will be best prepared to make it through the difficult months following the eruption. Make new friends. Have plenty of dust masks on hand, because you cannot breath any airborne ash if you want to avoid lung disease. It's what caused mass kills of plains animals 12 million years ago, resulting in extensive bone beds beneath the ash. Drinkable water will sell at the price of gold.

To recap, I don't expect anything to happen in the near future. But with such an unpredictable event, being prepared is your best ticket to survival."

Dr. Bruce Cornet

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So this guy is a leading expert with the US Geological Survey, basically giving his version of what would happen when Yellowstone (at this stage, he's sure it's not a matter of "if", but "when") explodes. I was almost about to laugh, when I was sent this link: <a href='http://www.yellowstonenationalpark.com/calderas.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.yellowstonenationalpark.com/calderas.htm</a>

We're overdue for annihilation, and it isn't even our fault. ****, and I swore the only way I'd see death was in some kind of nuclear holocaust.

There was something on the news this morning about areas of the park being closed off because the above-boiling temperatures.


Meh. Discuss.

Comments

  • GrimmGrimm Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15448Members
    I've seen stuff about this on the Discovery channel a lot. Kinda interests me, but I kinda don't care at the same time. If it will erupt, it will erupt, and there will be nothing we can do to stop it. Worse comes to worse, a lot of people will move away and it will blow up, then we'll clean up afterwards.
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    This anywhere near the magnituded of krakatoa(sp?)? Or smaller?
    Just wondering O-o
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    jep, i heard that some years ago.

    It happend 3 times, every x tousends years(and its more or less exact) and it should explose right now (+-1000 years)
  • ArcadiusArcadius Join Date: 2003-04-14 Member: 15491Members
    Sure sounds like he has the scientific data to back up his claims about there being an eruption. It sounds an awful lot like the activity that preceded the eruption of Mt. Saint Helen. I seriously doubt we'll have a 600km radius of distruction like he claims though. That seems like a rather large estimate to me. Who knows though, this guys estimate is probably a hell of a lot more informed than mine though. Oh well, I'm safe in Illinois so the pyroclastic flows won't reach me. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    I guess Pennsylvania isn't so bad after all.
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    Well it was nice knowing you western Americans!
    Come visit us over on the east of Canada, when 1200kms of your country is no longer user friendly! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    edited October 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The thickness of ash will decrease away from the super-volcano, but will reach the crop belt in the Midwest (Missouri, Iowa, <b><i>Kansas,</i></b> Nebraska, etc.), destroying most of the fertile croplands of the United States<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    eep
  • GrimmGrimm Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15448Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Majin Posted on Oct 3 2003, 10:16 AM
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    Well it was nice knowing you western Americans!
    Come visit us over on the east of Canada, when 1200kms of your country is no longer user friendly!  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    But the radius will be in a 600 km circle, so technically its 1200 x pi (cant find the little symbol), which is roughly 3600 km. So ha!

    Wait a second...
  • ObliteraterObliterater Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9652Members
    Why cant we just dig a big trench to the ocean and nuke a hole in the side of the mountian. Then all the lava will flow through the trench to the sea making us another state.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well it was nice knowing you western Americans!
    Come visit us over on the east of Canada, when 1200kms of your country is no longer user friendly!  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Nice to know our Canadian friends care about us... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    If duck and cover works against nukes, itll work against this puny volcano... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->


    What I love the most, is that this volcano was soo damn big people only noticed it was a volcano from space <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Doug_the_HeadDoug_the_Head Join Date: 2003-03-26 Member: 14909Members
    Hooray for Alabama!!

    I'm a good 1500 miles (~2400 km) from yellowstone.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    I'm afraid you used the formula for circumference.

    area: pi*r^2

    so pi*600^2 = 360000*pi = 1130973.355 km^2

    That's a lot of space.
  • sk84zer0sk84zer0 Join Date: 2003-06-18 Member: 17478Members
    no doubt yellowstone will blow soon. AHHHH WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!!
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    /me flees

    Seriously though, I'm in the debris zone.

    I'm freaked out.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    I wouldn't worry, since it's almost definately not going to happen in your lifetime...

    Please disregard this message in case of the following circumstances:
    A volcano erupts within 300km of you in your lifetime.
    If you have eternal life.
    If there was some pertinant fact, presenting proof that Yellowstone <b>will</b> erupt within the next 100 years, in the posted article.

    Besides, pyroclastic flows wont reach you, you'll just be shoveling ash instead of snow....and have to wear one of those surgical masks eveywhere for a few weeks...or months...or years or something. Hooray for Wisconsin, the state where nothing ever f-ing happens....EVER...except Michelle Branch is coming (to poor to go though)....and people like McCarthy spawning out of our political system.
  • TrojanTrojan Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4611Members
    I dont really call a volcano exploding on the other side of the world to me 'annihilation' <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


    Just because one volcano erupts in america doesnt mean its the end of the world ;p
  • IcarusIcarus Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15706Members
    * Icarus waves from australia!
    I think it will blow and posibly cause major changes to the worlds climates if its as bad as krakotora (or something)
  • A_Boojum_SnarkA_Boojum_Snark Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20628Members
    edited October 2003
    Its not a normal volcano as some of you seem to think. Rather, the entire Yellowstone park is rising upward and will be a quite large explosion when it blows.

    End of the world, probably not, but it will probably cause climate changes. I belive Mt St Helens caused the average world temp to drop 1 degree due to the ash thrown in the air. This will be MUCH bigger than that.
  • JefeJefe Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15734Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Icarus+Oct 4 2003, 12:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Icarus @ Oct 4 2003, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> * Icarus waves from australia!
    I think it will blow and posibly cause major changes to the worlds climates if its as bad as krakotora (or something) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    don't start this again...
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