Devour And Gore

Ic3Man · October 2003

1. I was playing NS when i saw something that wassnt correct imho. an was onos trying to devour me. so i thought that i would be save in an vent so i went to one (i had an jp that time, and it was the map ns-lost). I saw the damm onos jumping and i was like what it seems at an safe distance away from him but he still could devour me while i was in the vent. that happend 2 me twice same vent.

2. on the map with the waste Hive(name doesnt come up to me). i was standin on top of the hallway in Waste water hive (the 1 leading to the hive). while the onos was jumping he could hit me from beneath thru the floor.

what concerns me is why have walls if an onos neglates that.

Cabal · October 2003

Devour has a pretty far range - it ignores walls it seems. I was once able to devour someone through that little opening between the floor and the wall near the res node in Waste Handling on ns_tanith.

It also has a minimum range - if you dont want to get devoured, stand right up against an onos o_O. That or run. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Gore has a pretty far range. Most onos players know this and will attack people standing on high ledges by jumping while attacking. For example if you're on the ledge near the ladder above the res nodes in Atmospheric on ns_bast and you think you're safe from an onos (using gore or devour) think again. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Ic3Man · October 2003

is this meant this way or is it an bug.? cause it really frustrates me to get devoured trhu walls or ledges

Cabal · October 2003

My guess would be, the range of the attacks are meant to be that way but getting hit through walls is not. Just a guess though.

Grimm · October 2003

Yea, its been like that for a while, but I don't mind it all all. That may be because I am Onos as often as possible, but who knows... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Its actually pretty fun to run up to a Marine, watch him start to Jet-Pack away, then Devour him from mid-air.

Another way to avoid being devoured is to crouch, or to get really low, because at ground level its nearly impossible for me to devour a crouching 'rine. However, if they are crouching on top of a ledge or some structures that are at around nose level or higher on the Onos, I can get 'em in one bite. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

FlippyGc · October 2003

I got called a hacker when I was onos when 2.0 first came out and when I devour a JPer in mid-air in hall way in front of Maint Hive in Eclipse. It was funny.

Thief · October 2003

Snatching JP'ers out of the air is almost as satisfying as a bunch of xeno kills at once <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

Diablus · October 2003

lmao i ALWAYS get marines calling me a hacker because my ability to jump and devour sum1 through the railing in viel and vents and such. even jpers in mid air ill grab for a snack, but if you think devour has a far range in offical maps then you must have not seen the old nancy's man that thing reached at least 40-50 ft u could devour sum1 from at least the distance for 3 1/2 onos standing in a line <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Rush_Of_Peons · October 2003

Earlier on we had tourn mode on for a PUG war, had some **** of a skulk goin round biting everyone, i dunno if this was a bug or anything but i gave him fair warning to cut it out before i devoured him. Needless t osay he kept biting me, so i ate him! Got the health bak and everything, think Flayra corrected this coz i cant do it now :/ But while we could we all went onos and devoured eachother, we all had regen so when one onos died another onos came out , was funny as hell. Got threatened with ban so havent tried it again but damn did those marines run!!!

tanathos · October 2003

Lol ! That thing is like the russian dummies, you know ? The thing in a thing in a thing in a thing in a thing...

Gliss · October 2003

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Diablus @ Oct 2 2003, 04:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> lmao i ALWAYS get marines calling me a hacker because my ability to jump and devour sum1 through the railing in viel and vents and such. even jpers in mid air ill grab for a snack, but if you think devour has a far range in offical maps then you must have not seen the old nancy's man that thing reached at least 40-50 ft u could devour sum1 from at least the distance for 3 1/2 onos standing in a line <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>  </td></tr></table> 
That doesn't make sense--the maps don't change the range of your weapon.

Paranoia2MB · October 2003

IMO, Devoure range needs to be fixed. Is it right for an Onos on the floor to jump and devour a JPer all the way on top of the ceiling at the Cargo Hive on Veil? Again IMO, I think it isn't right.

And for gore via 2.0 . I noticed you really dont have to aim with it. It feels like it has a radius, requires less skill. Something that a friend and I noticed.

I_play_ns_naked · October 2003

yea...the stuipd <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'> devour range pisses me off sometimes...i rmeber in ns_tanith i was runnin from an onos in the marine start hall way...and i was a good 7 feet or so away from me....i said *phew* saved my gl, but before i know it i see the insides of him

Rush_Of_Peons · October 2003

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tanathos @ Oct 2 2003, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Lol ! That thing is like the russian dummies, you know ? The thing in a thing in a thing in a thing in a thing...  </td></tr></table> 
YEah, u shoulda see nthose marines run!

As for gore think about it, an onos can sway his head a bit like a rhino to swat you. Although it couldve been a lag issue, i get that all the time

Acidophilus_Cultures · October 2003

Devour is bs... it should have a small range and a small radius. For the size of it's mouth.. it prolly could only swallow a medkit.

it should have a devour range about that of a fade swipe

Does interp works with devour.. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'>

can you rapidly turn interp on and off to make a lerk's spore work really fast?

Munterman · October 2003

devour is irritating how it snatches jps mid air ... and even lamer when you devour someone with a /kill bind, and hes just pressed it >.<

Majin · October 2003

Yeah its really lame.
I say that it should be changed to have the Onos RIP OFF YOUR ARM! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> ------------ <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'>
...<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'>
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<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'>
..|--- %. - <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'>
AHHHH, MY HAND!!!!! THAT ONOS ATE IT!!!!

Necrosis · October 2003

Looking at the third person animation for devour, the range makes more sense.

If you've not seen it, perhaps you should go look.

Second - I don't think I should HAVE to have LOS to my biling targets. However, its how the game works, and its like that for a reason. Which means I can't bile from a secluded spot, but does mean that gorges don't shoot through walls.

Likewise I don't see why an onos cant devour a rine over a railing. Check the animation, it'll all make sense.

Zenn · October 2003

So much for JP being the counter to Onos if the Onos can grab them out of mid-air with devour.

When will this game cease to be broken?

Necrosis · October 2003

When JPers dont fly right in front of an Onos.

I understand there's some sort of vertical height glitch (for eating really really high jps) but if you're dumb enough to be of equal floating height to the onos, and hover in front of it..................

They can only balance the game, not the players.

steamedhams · October 2003

My vote is to change the name of devour to marine vacuum

Geminosity · October 2003

there is a vertical height glitch though... they can devour targets almost 4 onos high and stuff. It's pretty silly ^^;

Ic3Man · October 2003

This is exactly my point in posting this thread. Jp rine was intended as an counter onos imo but with the things they r right now its no fun to be an rine anymore. its just more frustrating cause u r trying to understand how u lost your precieus gear to an onos. Dont get me wrong im not against devour but come on, eating mid air and being able to be killed thru walls isnt fun (at least for the rines that is). I really hope that Flayra & CO noticed this so it would be changed.

Necrosis · October 2003

You're not really getting "killed through walls" if the onos is hopping a railing or can see your head poking out of a vent.

Yes its a counter but at the same time if you're in a tight hallway, you're dead, and you deserve to be dead for being caught by an Onos in that position.

As for eating midair, barring exploits like eating someone off the roof I think its totally legit. I can catch things in midair with my teeth, I don't see why an onos can't slurp a rine floating 2 feet in front of his face.

Only thing needing fixing is the vert height, imho.

Ic3Man · October 2003

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Necrosis @ Oct 3 2003, 05:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You're not really getting "killed through walls" if the onos is hopping a railing or can see your head poking out of a vent.

Yes its a counter but at the same time if you're in a tight hallway, you're dead, and you deserve to be dead for being caught by an Onos in that position.

As for eating midair, barring exploits like eating someone off the roof I think its totally legit. I can catch things in midair with my teeth, I don't see why an onos can't slurp a rine floating 2 feet in front of his face.

Only thing needing fixing is the vert height, imho.  </td></tr></table> 
necronis i think u dont get my point here. first of all i wasnt talking about being devoured in hallways. For I know 2 that the chance of survival of an rine in an hallway vs an onos is close to 0. i was talking about being devoured at ranges that arent even close enough to say like point blanc. cause lets be honest it stupid to be eaten from like 3 meters away. try to be an rine for once and c if u like to be devoured that way. its rather frustrating. to make an example i just got devoured while i had ha. There was an tf and an turret between the onos and me and he still could devour me from that range (this is quite the truth). come on thats not normal. its like eating your supper that is like 3 meters away. IMHO devour should be working at point blanc. i wouldtn mind to the range if u got hit by the tong and then pulled towards the mouth of the behemoth but devour is far from than.

let me put it all together. its not devour that concerns me it is his freaky abnormal range!!!!!

Necrosis · October 2003

"necronis i think u dont get my point here."

My name is right beside my posts, there's no excuse for typoing it.

Second, I don't think YOU get my point. Have you seen the third person Onos devour anim? Have you actually looked at it in HLMV? It EXPLAINS the range effect.

I do play rines (and by play I mean actually follow waypoints and kill things, not run to forums because some Onos killed me while I was camping a vent and loling). Its not rather frustrating, its the player's fault for getting caught by an onos. Too close to a vent exit? You deserve everything you get.

"to make an example i just got devoured while i had ha. There was an tf and an turret between the onos and me and he still could devour me from that range (this is quite the truth). come on thats not normal."

Gasp! You were camping like a champion and got devoured! THE HORROR! The third person anim shows you how Onos reach over things.

"its like eating your supper that is like 3 meters away."

I can do that. Lean forward, reach out, take supper, lean back. Compare and contrast to the Onos devour anim in HLMV.

"let me put it all together. its not devour that concerns me it is his freaky abnormal range!!!!!"

It doesn't have abnormal range, just a glitchy vert height issue. Second, it can only devour one person at a time, and its hard to catch people with devour unless you know what you're doing.

So objectively speaking (I'm a gorge/rine player) I don't see why it needs to be "point blank" range when an LA rine with a knife can kill an Onos at point blank range.

Tuistid_Nucka · October 2003

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>necronis i think u dont get my point here. first of all i wasnt talking about being devoured in hallways. For I know 2 that the chance of survival of an rine in an hallway vs an onos is close to 0. i was talking about being devoured at ranges that arent even close enough to say like point blanc. cause lets be honest it stupid to be eaten from like 3 meters away. try to be an rine for once and c if u like to be devoured that way. its rather frustrating. to make an example i just got devoured while i had ha. There was an tf and an turret between the onos and me and he still could devour me from that range (this is quite the truth). come on thats not normal. its like eating your supper that is like 3 meters away. IMHO devour should be working at point blanc. i wouldtn mind to the range if u got hit by the tong and then pulled towards the mouth of the behemoth but devour is far from than.

let me put it all together. its not devour that concerns me it is his freaky abnormal range!!!!!</td></tr></table>

just to point out. you keep saying "an rine" "an jpers".. very freaking annoying.

"an" is used before words that start with a VOWEL.

these are correct uses of "an".

example.
an onos.
an offence chamber.
an armory.

these are incorrect uses of "an"

example
an marine.
an skulk.
an res tower.

Paranoia2MB · October 2003

^^

We should be the Spelling/Grammar Nazis of the Ns forums haha. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif'>

Ic3Man · October 2003

So i spelled your name wrong big deal.

Have you actually looked at it in HLMV? It EXPLAINS the range effect. 
Maybe i missed something but i only saw some mouth movement and nothing that would explain why they can devour from that range. Well correct me if im wrong and ill gladly take my words back.

Gasp! You were camping like a champion and got devoured! THE HORROR! The third person anim shows you how Onos reach over things. 
Whats wrong with camping at places that have tactical importance to the team. I was orderd to protect that area wich happend to be an hive btw. And what u told to us and i quote "I do play rines (and by play I mean actually follow waypoints and kill things)", so u would have camped 2 if u were orderd to do that.

Wow u can lean 3 meters? Nice for u. Here have a cookie.

So objectively speaking (I'm a gorge/rine player) I don't see why it needs to be "point blank" range when an LA rine with a knife can kill an Onos at point blank range. 
I dont get it, its like to me u r an uber devourer as onos. why r so afraid then to be knifed. Simply devour him. Its the marines fault to be got caught by onos right necrosis ( i hope i spelled it correct this time <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> )

So my english isnt good. So what. What has my grammer and spelling have to do with this topic. And if it does then ban me for posting "bad english" topics.

Khaim · October 2003

Guys please try and keep this on topic and non-flamed.
Also: yes onos stomp gore and devour ranges are nuts, hopefully this will be fixed soon.

DXO · October 2003

who here knows what happens to a post when flaming and complaining start? if you want to discuss such things keep it nice and entirely on topic

thnx

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Devour And Gore

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