Mice: Ball Or Optical?

TUNA_AnomayTUNA_Anomay Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21005Members
Are optical mice still not suitable for gaming, or are they fine now that resolutions have improved (for example the Logitech MX line of optical mice)? Just curious, as I don't want to spend money on one to find that performance is poor in NS! <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • CutedgeCutedge Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20808Members
    I've never had a problem with unresponsiveness with my optical mice, and I have a cheap 15 dollar IBM optical mouse. Works flawlessly.

    However, if you wanna go all out, you could always get a Boomslang. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    been using opticals for years now and they've never given me any problems o.O
    heck, I find wheel mice are more problematic in general than any optical I've used. The only thing that might screw you up and stuff in the beginning while making the transistion is how high you have to lift the mouse for it not to read the motion lol. It'll become second nature though ^^
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    I've used an optical for over a year now. It's brilliant. It feels lighter and you don't have to clean it.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    I've been using an optical for quite a while, and I.. hate it <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> It's an intelli explorer 2.xx (or something)
    It's not very accurate
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    I must say that optical mice really are the shiznit. Mine is a $12 logitech one and it has never given any problems at all. Very smooth.
  • Pepe_MuffassaPepe_Muffassa Join Date: 2003-01-17 Member: 12401Members
    I play with the Logitech 800mx (optical + wireless) and I love it - perfect response, even when compared to corded - plus the extra buttons come in handy.

    I would recommend the mx500 (the corded one) as one of the best mice ever. the only thing you can't do with an optical mouse is "whip" it, where you scroll really fast, and pick up with the ball still turning, so you get an extra long rotation. However, it makes up for this with its never having to be cleaned, no breakable parts, and all around betterness. Once I used optical, ball mice were never an option.
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    psh all of you and you..your.. OPTICAL MICE! BALL WILL LIVE ON!!!!
  • AgentOrangeAgentOrange Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9244Members
    Optical is so much better it keeps me up at night just pondering it's excellence. No cleaning, less weight, faster respsonse. Do yourself a favor and pick one up.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    I've had an Logitech MX500 for a while now... It is the GOD OF OPTICAL MICE!! I swear. I can have my sensitivity up really really high and still keep the accuracy I would have if it was set low. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Do yourself a favor and get one.

    One recommendation with optical mice: Get a plastic pad, and try to get one with as many mixed colours as you can. An optical mouse moves by using a camera, see? It takes constant pictures of it's surface and compares them, and if it's changed any, it moves the cursor properly. Sometimes it has trouble comparing the surface when it's just one solid colour or one repeating pattern.
  • TuBeLTuBeL Join Date: 2003-09-16 Member: 20928Members
    I agree that optical >>> mouse ball.
    The only problems I've ever had happened when I used my mouse on an uneven surface. (ie. sratched desk)
    Otherwise its great!
  • MajinMajin Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16829Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    opticals work fine.
    its your mouse pad that can cause the problems with them.
    Make sure that its not a hard one with a clear coat to it.
    A plain fabric covered rubber one is all you need.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->One recommendation with optical mice: Get a plastic pad, and try to get one with as many mixed colours as you can. An optical mouse moves by using a camera, see? It takes constant pictures of it's surface and compares them, and if it's changed any, it moves the cursor properly. Sometimes it has trouble comparing the surface when it's just one solid colour or one repeating pattern. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thats stange advice, I find they work better if you don't have a plastic one.
    The plastic makes mine skip due to optic light reflections. I have a plain dark blue pad and it works AWESOME on it.

    If you dont mind the battery replacement that comes with it, I say get a cordless mouse. Mine works awesome Best mouse I have ever had Cordless+Optical=win. Only problem is the fact I have to replace the 2 AA batteries twice a month.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    I like mouse balls <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I just recently needed a new mouse (button problem, not ball problems) and decided to try the optical.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The only thing that might screw you up and stuff in the beginning while making the transistion is how high you have to lift the mouse for it not to read the motion lol. It'll become second nature though ^^ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Bingo, that was the biggest problem for me. I got over it eventually. I'm 50/50 now, I could go with either optical or balls.

    I think I'll say balls one more time. I think I hear Bevis chuckleing.....
  • james8448james8448 Join Date: 2003-07-26 Member: 18438Members
    No pads, no Opticals just Balls <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burncycle+Sep 29 2003, 03:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ Sep 29 2003, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The only thing that might screw you up and stuff in the beginning while making the transistion is how high you have to lift the mouse for it not to read the motion lol. It'll become second nature though ^^ <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Bingo, that was the biggest problem for me. I got over it eventually. I'm 50/50 now, I could go with either optical or balls. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I can honestly say, I've never had that problem...

    However, my compaq optical mouse sucks...mouse balls. The one at home, which is an optical mouse works fine. This mouse however, decides to go whacky every 5 minutes or so in game and send my view spinning around or straight to the ceiling or floor. It's just the mouse though, I still recommend optical mice. Their precision isn't that bad.

    Despite the fact that my mouse goes hay-wire, it's still very playable...It does annoy me when I'm shooting a skulk head on, and then WHOOOOSH, shooting the floor....bah.
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    Still using the same ball mouse I got 3 years ago and it's fine needs a clean about once a week but other than that it pwns.
    Not so sure about optical ones cos my brother has one and it sometimes makes him look straight up and spin round about 20 times and random points when playing games lol.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    In my experience you won't go long with Logitech.
    I prefer corded optical mice. You don't have a heavy ball that smudges, and you don't have heavy batteries that die at the most inconvenient times (and usually when you're fresh out of batteries). And the problems that optical mice had with fast movements are gone in the newest generations too.
  • SkulkBaitSkulkBait Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13423Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--V-MAN+Sep 29 2003, 04:00 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V-MAN @ Sep 29 2003, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Still using the same ball mouse I got 3 years ago and it's fine needs a clean about once a week but other than that it pwns.
    Not so sure about optical ones cos my brother has one and it sometimes makes him look straight up and spin round about 20 times and random points when playing games lol. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    FYI, thats most likely a result of the surface he is using it on.
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    Optical all the way <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    It's light, fast, flexible etc.
  • TUNA_AnomayTUNA_Anomay Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21005Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--lolfighter+Sep 29 2003, 04:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lolfighter @ Sep 29 2003, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> In my experience you won't go long with Logitech.
    I prefer corded optical mice. You don't have a heavy ball that smudges, and you don't have heavy batteries that die at the most inconvenient times (and usually when you're fresh out of batteries). And the problems that optical mice had with fast movements are gone in the newest generations too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What brand do you prefer?
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    Havent ever had any problems with aiming and such with it, although the area where I use my mouse is actually worn down so much its as smooth as glass <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> I hate ball mouses, 1 tiny clog in the rollers and it messes up your aim.

    Optical rawks, mine is corded but I don't mind it much. Logitech holds up pretty darn good, plus it glows blue. I mean, how spiffy is that.
  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    edited September 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--Majin+Sep 29 2003, 04:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Majin @ Sep 29 2003, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->One recommendation with optical mice: Get a plastic pad, and try to get one with as many mixed colours as you can. An optical mouse moves by using a camera, see? It takes constant pictures of it's surface and compares them, and if it's changed any, it moves the cursor properly. Sometimes it has trouble comparing the surface when it's just one solid colour or one repeating pattern. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thats stange advice, I find they work better if you don't have a plastic one.
    The plastic makes mine skip due to optic light reflections. I have a plain dark blue pad and it works AWESOME on it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It depends on the mouse, really. If he gets an MX500, I'd recommend the plastic coated one because using a fabric pad with the pads under the MX500 creates extra "drag" when you move the mouse, which annoys me, really. It's just a convienience thing and depends on the mouse.

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->In my experience you won't go long with Logitech.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Logitech used to be average, but they're VERY good, now. I've had Logitech keyboards, mice and my current joystick, and they've all held up a lot better than other brands, and performed a lot better, too.
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    I use to be mouseball only, but I recentely switched over to optical, and I like it.
  • BeastBeast Armonkyi Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15731Members, Constellation
    Microsoft Intellimouse here.
    I recommend it to everyone - its got 5 buttons, its comfertable, very responsive.
    I like it so much I gave it a name. it's now called Tim ^^

    In short - optical mice are now deh win.
  • Fl4THeAdFl4THeAd Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18587Members
    I gotta stick with ball mice. I can tell the difference of the smallest little skip with the optical and it just bugs me sometimes.

    I dont mind cleaning the ball every once and a while. They just seem more accurate.
  • BigwigBigwig Join Date: 2002-10-27 Member: 1646Members
    I like my cheap little optical mouse, although if I had the money I'd get a razor boomslang. It's a gaming ball mouse and I hear it's really good.
  • SandrockSandrock Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10905Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I love my Logitech MX700. Its wireless so no cord getting in the way, and the batteries are rechargable so they hardly ever die. And even if they do die, you can just recharge them right then and there. Responsiveness is really good. The only problem I've ever had (with all optical mice in general, not just this one) is that if you move the mouse extremely fast, sometimes it bugs out and my crosshair shoots straight up and spins twice. Doesn't happen too often though. Optical all the way.
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    Its my own theory that people who think they have bad gaming experiences because "their optical mouse has bad response time" just won't admit they suck. Optical mice are fine, even the $10 bargain bin ones. I use the basic Microsoft Intellimouse right now (five buttons, white thingamajig, theres a "advanced" silver one that costs more), which I dont recommend to anyone, its a piece of crap, or at least the one I have is. On the computer I'm building though I'm going to have a Logitech MX500 which I got for $25 from Amazon.
  • SoulSkorpionSoulSkorpion Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 423Members
    Optical all the way. I'm using a logitech at the moment. I sometimes miss having to clean crap off the rollers, but mostly the mouse getting stuck at an inoppurtune moment caused me problems. I've never had a problem with ym current mouse, except that the cable isn't really well-worn enough to be flexible so it sometimes gives me grief.
  • JavertJavert Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15954Members
    Optical hands down.
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    i have the same mouse as beast's , only its the 2 button version and its all blue and cool (shall we hook em up on a date sometime <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> )
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