<!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 18 2003, 11:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 18 2003, 11:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> heres the newest prototype i got my hands on on..
the "God´s dignity", a modificated tokyo marui M92F based 9mm machine pistol with underbarell breach loadet single shot grenadelauncher...
first template version <img src='http://www.poseidon.co.jp/1F/new/kam15.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> lol..niwa made the trigger guard for the nader to small.. not very comfortable with gloves
heres the second version, with some design changes.. <img src='http://www.poseidon.co.jp/1F/new/kam16.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
and here the first hand made "prototype" made of styrene.. <img src='http://www.poseidon.co.jp/1F/new/kam17.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'> ok..the nader isnt modelled yet.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that'd be tha M92R used as tha base gun, right?
<!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 19 2003, 12:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 19 2003, 12:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> no.. m93r (there was no M92r), but it sucked.. the m92f works way better in that config.. i will scan some sketches today at work <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> O,o
whoops...meant 93...christ, i must tired...i dun normally slip up like that... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
anyways, i'm curious how you're gonna make a M92FS go full-auto...why not just go with tha 93?..it's basicly tha same design....
lol...because the m92f airsoft version works much better with the full auto mod then the full auto 93 pistol itself.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> no time to explain that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> later
<!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 19 2003, 01:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 19 2003, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol...because the m92f airsoft version works much better with the full auto mod then the full auto 93 pistol itself.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> no time to explain that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> later <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> full auto mod?
if you mod it to be full auto, then essentially, it's a 93R airsoft...lol...
"no..thats not a shotgun.. " lol That was goooooood <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> Few minutes of laugh, rofl <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Big gun.....where's my ACDC cd-s.....i have to look for it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Nice concept......
SO... its a trigun, with a clip and no revolver, more realistic barrel on top, schematics included + it looks badass and i could probably model it (given i suck at max.) im too busy to model anything that complex though.
- jap/chineese/alien text on the pictures make me want to whack my monitor with my new machette.... but thats the only con i see. (hmm, maybe i should make a machette model.)
<!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Sep 19 2003, 01:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Sep 19 2003, 01:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 19 2003, 01:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 19 2003, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol...because the m92f airsoft version works much better with the full auto mod then the full auto 93 pistol itself.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> no time to explain that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> later <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> full auto mod?
if you mod it to be full auto, then essentially, it's a 93R airsoft...lol...
i'm still very curious... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> naaaahh... you think to simple..both guns are completly different ... adding a gearbox with powersupply makes it a full auto mod with lots more space inside.. plus, you have more ammo, the gastank on the full auto model does not allow to take lots of ammo with you...but its a full auto gun,thats the point where it sucks.. with the mod u can load 3 times more ammo.. (battery and the new box are hidden in the launcher..) the negative on this new gearbox is its size... the v0 would be better with a gas powered system,but the pressure loss is way to high, and to insecure with the new configuration ..
but that all isnt fixed yet.. maybe it works way whorser than expected...
and no,the ceruberus got not a magazine..or "clip" like u call it... only the airsoft version got one,because theres a regular pistol build in.. the ceruberus is getting loadet like a shotgun. it got a tubemagazine under the barell.
The clip displayed is ONLY for the purposes of airsoft, as seems to be misunderstood, not a demonstration of how the actual gun is supposed to work. The cylinder under the barrel acts as the cylinder under the barrel of a typical pump-action shotgun [not the auto kind with clips or drums]: to store the massive 18mm shells in a nose-to-rear config, instead of one atop the other, as they would be in a clip.
Completely impractical design, in my opinion. If it were a drum mag more like a Bison or one of those other funny guns with the fifty-round cylindrical drums sitting on top, at the back, I'd think better of it, as the weight of the bullets under the barrel, in front, would maybe help reduce the effects of recoil more than having it hang off the back end, which would seem likely to tip the gun back on a full clip, forcing the shooter to put more strength in to dropping it back forward after each thought. But that's just an assumption based on how all that extra metal under a Desert Eagle's barrel helps even out the recoil from its large caliber bullets.
Of course, I'm more inclined to spray and pray than to aim each shot carefully.
Sheena! You're giving away top secret company info! Corporate spies are everywhere. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
anime? where? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> but a grenade launcher on a smg is ok huh? theres not such a big difference between a 9mm machinepistol and a submachinegun...only the size. a gun dont have to look good... it have to be practical. i think a very compact pdw with a ltd device is pretty nice.. this grenade launcher is only used to fire LTD manstopping ammo at very close ranges,like a gong stungun,or one of this 40mm rubber ball launchers.. you could use a cs foam grenade in that one too...but the barell would be to short for regular grenades..
Sheena I would love to have your job lol <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> I hear you also helped on the Trigun m29 kits I bow to you oh master of Airsoft conversions
Well that isnt very nice is it if you want to insult a places culture and ideas I think you should find a different forum <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 19 2003, 09:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 19 2003, 09:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Sep 19 2003, 01:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Sep 19 2003, 01:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 19 2003, 01:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 19 2003, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol...because the m92f airsoft version works much better with the full auto mod then the full auto 93 pistol itself.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> no time to explain that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> later <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> full auto mod?
if you mod it to be full auto, then essentially, it's a 93R airsoft...lol...
i'm still very curious... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> naaaahh... you think to simple..both guns are completly different ... adding a gearbox with powersupply makes it a full auto mod with lots more space inside.. plus, you have more ammo, the gastank on the full auto model does not allow to take lots of ammo with you...but its a full auto gun,thats the point where it sucks.. with the mod u can load 3 times more ammo.. (battery and the new box are hidden in the launcher..) the negative on this new gearbox is its size... the v0 would be better with a gas powered system,but the pressure loss is way to high, and to insecure with the new configuration ..
but that all isnt fixed yet.. maybe it works way whorser than expected...
and no,the ceruberus got not a magazine..or "clip" like u call it... only the airsoft version got one,because theres a regular pistol build in.. the ceruberus is getting loadet like a shotgun. it got a tubemagazine under the barell. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I think too simple?....and aside from a few small differences, tha M92FS(military M9), and tha M93R are identical..
But anyway, if you use an extended Hi-Cap magazine...that's more ammo, and more gas...not to mention, you get a better sound....that's tha one thing i never did like about AEG's...that goddamned retarded whirring sound they make...totally weak...
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<!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Sep 19 2003, 06:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Sep 19 2003, 06:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+Sep 19 2003, 01:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ Sep 19 2003, 01:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol...because the m92f airsoft version works much better with the full auto mod then the full auto 93 pistol itself.. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> no time to explain that <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> later <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> full auto mod?
if you mod it to be full auto, then essentially, it's a 93R airsoft...lol...
i'm still very curious... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> well they've got major structure/fire selection/safety differences. for instance, the 93r selects from the frame, while the 92F selects from the slide. they probably had those factors in consideration while designing airsoft mods.
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> its not even finished... the first working prototype is far away.. the next one that is in work got a external gastank in the launchergrip for the pistol, this little change makes it also possible to do a "functional" launcher for airsoft shotgun ammo.. but it looks like this concept will changed again. heres a lil update <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> when youre strong enough to hold such a huge gun with one hand the recoil would be peanuts... have you seen the video? the slider doesnt go that far backward... bah.. i dont like it either....but there are enough kiddos who like it...
i would split that slider in 2 parts.. a stationary.and a moving part..like my compact 6mm and btw ... the ejection port have to be much more in the front,depending where the tube magazine ends, it have to be somewhere under/in front of that cross thing ...
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<!--QuoteBegin--Pykmi+Sep 20 2003, 11:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Pykmi @ Sep 20 2003, 11:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now that would be one ownage pistol...
[off-topic] Now I see where your postcount comes from XD [/off-topic] <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> avast! oh that day's over lol
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<!--QuoteBegin--absentic+Sep 20 2003, 12:17 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (absentic @ Sep 20 2003, 12:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> can u model a knife with lam / grenade launcher / silencer thank u <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> seriously... it's like in the future they're supposed to have all this ridiculous crap on their guns... are they blind? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
The gun she's showing prototypes of [against company policy, mind you, so you may as well feel priviledged that she shares this much with you all] is to be an AIRSOFT gun. Obviously aimed at people who like their guns freakishly tricked-out. It's nothing to do with "the future" or Japan exclussively. The thing fires airsoft shotgun shells, which throw out a small wall of something like thirty plastic pellets all at once, which can be a monstrous advantage in an airsoft game. Compared to a full-blown shotgun or grenade-launcher, that thing is TINY. Think of the maneuverability! The con of its weight is fully outweighed by its practicality in tight situations, although I'd like to see room in the body for the kind of silencer used on the boat in GitS. That would be one heck of a tactical weapon, in the right hands. Throw on a nice, big clip...
She's making designs for a company that has found such designs sell well. Are you going to question someone's personal preferences? Many people'd personal preferences? That's called bigotry. Get over yourself, absentic, before somebody starts picking appart YOUR personal preferences.
I've seen this on the Poseidon website and wondering to even order it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> It's a SIG Sauer P228 pistol built into it, if I'm not mistaken...
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the "God´s dignity", a modificated tokyo marui M92F based 9mm machine pistol with underbarell breach loadet single shot grenadelauncher...
first template version
<img src='http://www.poseidon.co.jp/1F/new/kam15.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
lol..niwa made the trigger guard for the nader to small.. not very comfortable with gloves
heres the second version, with some design changes..
<img src='http://www.poseidon.co.jp/1F/new/kam16.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
and here the first hand made "prototype" made of styrene..
<img src='http://www.poseidon.co.jp/1F/new/kam17.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image'>
ok..the nader isnt modelled yet.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
that'd be tha M92R used as tha base gun, right?
O,o
whoops...meant 93...christ, i must tired...i dun normally slip up like that... <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
anyways, i'm curious how you're gonna make a M92FS go full-auto...why not just go with tha 93?..it's basicly tha same design....
full auto mod?
if you mod it to be full auto, then essentially, it's a 93R airsoft...lol...
i'm still very curious...
You could have linked them all in one post.
Few minutes of laugh, rofl <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Big gun.....where's my ACDC cd-s.....i have to look for it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Nice concept......
- jap/chineese/alien text on the pictures make me want to whack my monitor with my new machette.... but thats the only con i see. (hmm, maybe i should make a machette model.)
i would use the hell out of this
full auto mod?
if you mod it to be full auto, then essentially, it's a 93R airsoft...lol...
i'm still very curious... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
naaaahh... you think to simple..both guns are completly different ...
adding a gearbox with powersupply makes it a full auto mod with lots more space inside.. plus, you have more ammo, the gastank on the full auto model does not allow to take lots of ammo with you...but its a full auto gun,thats the point where it sucks.. with the mod u can load 3 times more ammo.. (battery and the new box are hidden in the launcher..)
the negative on this new gearbox is its size... the v0 would be better with a gas powered system,but the pressure loss is way to high, and to insecure with the new configuration ..
but that all isnt fixed yet.. maybe it works way whorser than expected...
and no,the ceruberus got not a magazine..or "clip" like u call it... only the airsoft version got one,because theres a regular pistol build in.. the ceruberus is getting loadet like a shotgun. it got a tubemagazine under the barell.
Completely impractical design, in my opinion. If it were a drum mag more like a Bison or one of those other funny guns with the fifty-round cylindrical drums sitting on top, at the back, I'd think better of it, as the weight of the bullets under the barrel, in front, would maybe help reduce the effects of recoil more than having it hang off the back end, which would seem likely to tip the gun back on a full clip, forcing the shooter to put more strength in to dropping it back forward after each thought. But that's just an assumption based on how all that extra metal under a Desert Eagle's barrel helps even out the recoil from its large caliber bullets.
Of course, I'm more inclined to spray and pray than to aim each shot carefully.
Sheena! You're giving away top secret company info! Corporate spies are everywhere. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
a pistol with a grenade launcher
riiiiiiiiiiiight....
this is why i think anime sucks
a gun dont have to look good... it have to be practical. i think a very compact pdw with a ltd device is pretty nice..
this grenade launcher is only used to fire LTD manstopping ammo at very close ranges,like a gong stungun,or one of this 40mm rubber ball launchers.. you could use a cs foam grenade in that one too...but the barell would be to short for regular grenades..
I hear you also helped on the Trigun m29 kits I bow to you oh master of Airsoft conversions
a pistol with a grenade launcher
riiiiiiiiiiiight....
this is why i think anime sucks
Well that isnt very nice is it if you want to insult
a places culture and ideas I think you should find a different forum <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
w0rd... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
full auto mod?
if you mod it to be full auto, then essentially, it's a 93R airsoft...lol...
i'm still very curious... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
naaaahh... you think to simple..both guns are completly different ...
adding a gearbox with powersupply makes it a full auto mod with lots more space inside.. plus, you have more ammo, the gastank on the full auto model does not allow to take lots of ammo with you...but its a full auto gun,thats the point where it sucks.. with the mod u can load 3 times more ammo.. (battery and the new box are hidden in the launcher..)
the negative on this new gearbox is its size... the v0 would be better with a gas powered system,but the pressure loss is way to high, and to insecure with the new configuration ..
but that all isnt fixed yet.. maybe it works way whorser than expected...
and no,the ceruberus got not a magazine..or "clip" like u call it... only the airsoft version got one,because theres a regular pistol build in.. the ceruberus is getting loadet like a shotgun. it got a tubemagazine under the barell. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think too simple?....and aside from a few small differences, tha M92FS(military M9), and tha M93R are identical..
But anyway, if you use an extended Hi-Cap magazine...that's more ammo, and more gas...not to mention, you get a better sound....that's tha one thing i never did like about AEG's...that goddamned retarded whirring sound they make...totally weak...
full auto mod?
if you mod it to be full auto, then essentially, it's a 93R airsoft...lol...
i'm still very curious... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well they've got major structure/fire selection/safety differences. for instance, the 93r selects from the frame, while the 92F selects from the slide. they probably had those factors in consideration while designing airsoft mods.
that slide is LONG.. wouldn't the recoil be more effective if the slide was short, and the rest was stationary?
when youre strong enough to hold such a huge gun with one hand the recoil would be peanuts...
have you seen the video? the slider doesnt go that far backward... bah.. i dont like it either....but there are enough kiddos who like it...
i would split that slider in 2 parts.. a stationary.and a moving part..like my compact 6mm
and btw ... the ejection port have to be much more in the front,depending where the tube
magazine ends, it have to be somewhere under/in front of that cross thing ...
and even downward ejection XP
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Now I see where your postcount comes from XD
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Now I see where your postcount comes from XD
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avast! oh that day's over lol
seriously... it's like in the future they're supposed to have all this ridiculous crap on their guns... are they blind? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
She's making designs for a company that has found such designs sell well. Are you going to question someone's personal preferences? Many people'd personal preferences? That's called bigotry. Get over yourself, absentic, before somebody starts picking appart YOUR personal preferences.
It's a SIG Sauer P228 pistol built into it, if I'm not mistaken...