Too bad they don't have good music in Japan. I mean if the stuff in FLCL is the most popular stuff out there I'd think I'd go crazy living in Japan. Linkin Park, Godsmack, and even P.O.D. Oo yeah, my favorite music.
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<!--QuoteBegin--DarkDude+Sep 19 2003, 04:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkDude @ Sep 19 2003, 04:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad they don't have good music in Japan. I mean if the stuff in FLCL is the most popular stuff out there I'd think I'd go crazy living in Japan. Linkin Park, Godsmack, and even P.O.D. Oo yeah, my favorite music. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Go listen to just about ANY J-Rock, and you'll see that japan INVENTED the kind of stuff Linkin Park does. Which is why I love Linkin Park SO FRICKIN MUCH.
<!--QuoteBegin--Athena+Sep 20 2003, 12:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ Sep 20 2003, 12:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->On another note, a lot of Japanophiles seem to not bother learning about or admitting to the more dark side of Japan, especially the war crimes of yesterdecade and the sheer racism that is prevalent in Japan today...
ramble over. Feel free to poke me about aspects of Japanese-ness you'd like to know more about. ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'd like to know about racism in Japan. What's the largest ethnic minority in Japan?
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<!--QuoteBegin--lazygamer+Sep 18 2003, 07:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lazygamer @ Sep 18 2003, 07:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well I think Asian women are sexah and exotic, that's why I'd live there. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> Maybe the chicks find forgieners interesting too.
But for me, there would be too many people and too much polution. Canada has 30 million people, although 85% of them live within 200KM of the US border. Still, even in that 200KM, it's probably alot less crowded than alot of American cities.
How are their laws conservative exactly? Like do they have harsh prison sentences or something? US Is pretty bad for that...
Quaunaut has a good point about American culture, but schools? I always thought Japanese schools had much more of a workload than American schools, and their students were pushed much harder. And then there is that thing about how they got awesome math skillz, but their writing creativity suffers(because they are focused on math). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, lets just say that from what I've seen on the Japanese's government's website, its...well, lets just say that if you think that the death penalty is bad here...you oughta see HOW the death penalty is dealt there.
Not to mention, there is nothing wrong with Police Brutality there, so if you screw up and pisse them off, as long as they don't kill or cripple you(permanently, that is), they can beat the snot out of you.
Also, the polution in Japan is almost nonexhistant. They have a lot of different devices that they'll put on the roofs of many of the houses, that makes polution rates go WAAY down.
And while its SO-CALLED "crowded" there, its only crowded with how many buldings and shops. Really, the people amount on the streets and in cars is less than New York, and thats in Tokyo.
And um....where the hell did you get your info on "But their creative writing skills aren't good"? Thats one of the things their reknowed for. The workload is harder on them(BY FAR), but then again, they learn by their last year in high school as much as any public college would teach, EASILY.
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<!--QuoteBegin--CrystalSnake+Sep 19 2003, 04:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CrystalSnake @ Sep 19 2003, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Athena+Sep 20 2003, 12:17 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ Sep 20 2003, 12:17 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->On another note, a lot of Japanophiles seem to not bother learning about or admitting to the more dark side of Japan, especially the war crimes of yesterdecade and the sheer racism that is prevalent in Japan today...
ramble over. Feel free to poke me about aspects of Japanese-ness you'd like to know more about. ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'd like to know about racism in Japan. What's the largest ethnic minority in Japan? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Tall people.
<!--QuoteBegin--Quaunaut+Sep 19 2003, 06:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Sep 19 2003, 06:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--DarkDude+Sep 19 2003, 04:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkDude @ Sep 19 2003, 04:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Too bad they don't have good music in Japan. I mean if the stuff in FLCL is the most popular stuff out there I'd think I'd go crazy living in Japan. Linkin Park, Godsmack, and even P.O.D. Oo yeah, my favorite music. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Go listen to just about ANY J-Rock, and you'll see that japan INVENTED the kind of stuff Linkin Park does. Which is why I love Linkin Park SO FRICKIN MUCH. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Really? You're f**king me.... Wow, it's just that the music they have seems sooo, excuse my language, p*ssy. I've never heard anything that can really be called "rock" come from Japan. But hell, where have I been the past few years...
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, lets just say that from what I've seen on the Japanese's government's website, its...well, lets just say that if you think that the death penalty is bad here...you oughta see HOW the death penalty is dealt there.
Not to mention, there is nothing wrong with Police Brutality there, so if you screw up and pisse them off, as long as they don't kill or cripple you(permanently, that is), they can beat the snot out of you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now that's what I'd call a darkside!
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Also, the polution in Japan is almost nonexhistant. They have a lot of different devices that they'll put on the roofs of many of the houses, that makes polution rates go WAAY down.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't know that was possible. Crowed cities + tons of pollution = not good right?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And while its SO-CALLED "crowded" there, its only crowded with how many buldings and shops. Really, the people amount on the streets and in cars is less than New York, and thats in Tokyo.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3/4 of Japan is mountains, they have 125 million people living on an island. Now it's not a small island, but it's still all packing into 1/4 of an island. That sounds very crowded to me, but I've never been to New York. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->nd um....where the hell did you get your info on "But their creative writing skills aren't good"? Thats one of the things their reknowed for. The workload is harder on them(BY FAR), but then again, they learn by their last year in high school as much as any public college would teach, EASILY.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe I used the wrong words, I dunno. If it's not the technical part of writing, it would be the creative part. I remember hearing on the news a few years back about a report of students in schools around the world. Some Asian countries were better at math skills than alot of other countries, but some of the other countries were better at writing skills than the Asians. MAYBE, it's refering to the english language, or maybe it means their own native language in general. I didn't say their creative writing skills aren't good, I said they suffer due to a focus on math(but I could see how I would be implying alot). Maybe their math AND writing skills are better than everyone else.
Don't you think that a large, constant workload could have that effect?
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeah ok
that's a stupidass reason if taken too far
but if not, good luck to you then<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But you see, I wouldn't take it too far. I would never move to another country for such simple reasons.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> As for math skills, it's only underachievers (ie dumasses) who like to stereotype and make fun of other people. In my experience it is 100% true, and I imagine it has to be so also. A broader and perhaps more accurate definition might be insecure people in general.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Making fun of people? Stereotyping? You got me all wrong.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you're (a dumass, not lazygamer, unless lazygamer IS a dumass :O) a bad student or had bad teachers or were a weakling who followed the crowd and are just dumb, it's not my (our) fault, you fuker.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow. I'm amazed at your stupidity. If i made a factual mistake I made a factual mistake.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, lets just say that from what I've seen on the Japanese's government's website, its...well, lets just say that if you think that the death penalty is bad here...you oughta see HOW the death penalty is dealt there.
Not to mention, there is nothing wrong with Police Brutality there, so if you screw up and pisse them off, as long as they don't kill or cripple you(permanently, that is), they can beat the snot out of you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now that's what I'd call a darkside! But death penalty doesn't concern me. I'm more concerned about sentence length, how lesser crime sentences compare to murder and rape, and conditions in prisons. How does Japan do in that aspect?
Note:Edit function wasn't working for me. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
In regards to aggressive music, the surface of Japan's music scene is by far pop and 'weak' rock because that's what most of the masses listen to. Japan is very much about getting along with everyone else, and that means similarity. However, this resulted in the spawning of an intensely rebellious underground movement, and even in pop charts there are a few bands (notably Dir en grey in the last couple of years) that are -very- aggressive. I prefer the more underground indie scene, but that's stagnated recently, at least to me. Dir en grey, Machine, Endorphine, Hakuei, and Miyavi are some of the more aggressive, metal/industrial style bands I can think of at the moment.
and... what gamer doesn't know the Guilty Gear Heavy Rock soundtracks? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
As for the largest ethnic minority, I believe it is Koreans. There's a fairly large number of them there for various reasons (economic, cultural, social, educational), though there's a lot of bad blood between the older Koreans and Japanese (being half-Korean myself, this is something I've had a lot of experience with -_-;;;).
As for racism, think of it this way; Japanese more or less see themselves as one big "in" club, and everyone who's not Japanese is "out." That's not to say that they're anti-foreigners, but non-Japanese are often looked at as weird curiousities, and stereotypes abound. Also, racism there is perfectly legal; you can be denied rental of housing, for instance, because you're not Japanese, and there's nothing you can do about it. This is a lot less common nowadays though, I hear.
Yea, that's what I wouldn't like to see in a country, single-mindedness. I can understand Japan having it, not accept, but understand it. That's THEY'RE country, they were some of the orignal inhabitants so they get to decide who gets what. But if it's in America, it's wrong because it's everybodies country (if you pay taxes and get your yellow or green card, whatever it is of course) and of course nobody can say that "We were here first so it's ours." And if somebody does then that's when I can't understand or accept it.
About music, I really can't stand Japanese music in general. Japanese words are so fluid and they go together very nicely but I think rock is the complete oposite. You need those stacotoes and sudden stops that are so easy to create with the English language. (stop and think about it, English is only topped by German in "uglyness", not that it's a bad thing) Guess that's the reason I don't like Japanese pop or rock. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Wonder if we've got any people playing ns in Japan... Unless they're sooo mainstream they've already ditched a gaming classic, Half-Life. Did Half-Life even market in Japan? Did it sell well? Meh, now I'm getting into 20 questions, would enjoy the answers though if anyone knows. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--DarkDude+Sep 19 2003, 10:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkDude @ Sep 19 2003, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> That's THEY'RE country, they were some of the orignal inhabitants so they get to decide who gets what. But if it's in America, it's wrong because it's everybodies country (if you pay taxes and get your yellow or green card, whatever it is of course) and of course nobody can say that "We were here first so it's ours." And if somebody does then that's when I can't understand or accept it. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Thomas Jefferson and John Locke are presently rolling in their graves.
"We hold these truths to be SELF EVIDENT that ALL men are created EQUAL."
It is never ok to deny someone their basic human rights. Never. Especially on something as stupid as ancestry. You never, ever, ever take away people's rights.
I don't have too much to contribute to this, but I do have a couple things to say. I am kind of obsessed with Japan. The reasons:
1) Language- The Japanese language is composed of really beautiful symbols.
2)History- The Japanese have an interesting history.
3)TV- The Japanese made three shows that I really love. They are Trigun, Rurouni Kenshin, and DragonBall Z. Watching these shows got me interested in learning their language, because it's so very very pretty. Rurouni Kenshin was also what got me interested in Japanese history.
So I guess when it comes down to it, the reason I like Japan is because they created Rurouni Kenshin.
Ironically, what got me hooked into the entire "Nipponese" culture was when i read the book <i>Shogun</i> by James Clavell.
Gundam is not the usual Invincible-Super-Robots. Heck, almost every character lost their Gundam at one point or another (Duo lost Deathscythe, the Asian warrior guy whose name I forget lost ?Nataku to an abmush, Heero got Wing destroyed, Trowa lost Heavyarms I)
I just like specific parts about the culture. Bushido is very much something I like, as I also like the samurai weaponry and the sheer fact that to live in Japan is to live near Kojima-san, Miyamoto-San and Uematsu-san. The three genius'es who, if they got together, could direct & score a game beter then any American ever will.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wonder if we've got any people playing ns in Japan... Unless they're sooo mainstream they've already ditched a gaming classic, Half-Life. Did Half-Life even market in Japan? Did it sell well? Meh, now I'm getting into 20 questions, would enjoy the answers though if anyone knows. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think we have about 80 ns players here in Japan. Not sure if Half-Life sold well though. The population of PC gamers in Japan is very low compared with cosumer gamers. Still, I think it sold well then other games.
James Clavell is probably one of my favorite authors ever. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> I've read and now own the entire Asian Saga, and without a doubt I found Shogun and King Rat to be the most interesting. The fact that they're great reads aside, I think it's a good way to get at least some understanding of Japanese-ness (though hell if I know how accurate a lot of it is, but a lot of what he wrote about us sounds about right <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->).
Yeah, Gundams blow up. My roommate's been watching G-Wing, and I turned around just in time to see the Deathscythe get rocked in the face. Still haven't seen one I like other than 0083, though... I'll always be a Macross gal. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
My passion for video games and my current position as a translator aside, the language really is beautiful, at least to me, spoken as well as written. I could do without kanji being so damn complicated, though.
and what Legionnaired said. I don't care where or who you are, you don't have the right to deny anyone else their rights. period.
SmokeNova, I believe Kojimasensee has attended E3, and I'm almost positive Miyamotosensee has. Maybe you could bump into them there? Perhaps even at an anime con...
<!--QuoteBegin--Legionnaired+Sep 19 2003, 11:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Legionnaired @ Sep 19 2003, 11:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thomas Jefferson and John Locke are presently rolling in their graves.
"We hold these truths to be SELF EVIDENT that ALL men are created EQUAL."
It is never ok to deny someone their basic human rights. Never. Especially on something as stupid as ancestry. You never, ever, ever take away people's rights. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yea but that may not be what the Japanese believe. Those rules and rights were created for our country not Japan. We'd like other countries to follow these rules but we can't force them to. (though some would beg to differ) I said I didn't accept it but could sort of understand it. Japan isn't America so they don't respect our laws and that's just the way it is.
<!--QuoteBegin--Athena+Sep 21 2003, 02:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ Sep 21 2003, 02:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> current position as a translator <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Come with me, we'll fansub beautiful things together!
With your translation skills and my copious amounts of HK DVDs, the world is our Oyster!
<!--QuoteBegin--Infinitum+Sep 20 2003, 05:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Infinitum @ Sep 20 2003, 05:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Athena+Sep 21 2003, 02:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Athena @ Sep 21 2003, 02:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> current position as a translator <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Come with me, we'll fansub beautiful things together!
With your translation skills and my copious amounts of HK DVDs, the world is our Oyster! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Actually, I'm already translating for two groups... one is doing an H-game, the other is doing a Korean SRPG called "War of Genesis 3." I've quit fansubbing anime for good. ^^
So my question is, how big is the darkside of Japan? Until this thread, I always thought of Japan as a wierd, yet cool modern country. Now it suddenly seems very different. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Wow, I thought the Japanese didn't like the death penalty and such. Is it really bad? What do they do? Stone you to death? Never occured to me that Japan had a darkside also, always thought of it as a reasonable country... Guess I was wrong. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--DarkDude+Sep 21 2003, 04:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkDude @ Sep 21 2003, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wow, I thought the Japanese didn't like the death penalty and such. Is it really bad? What do they do? Stone you to death? Never occured to me that Japan had a darkside also, always thought of it as a reasonable country... Guess I was wrong. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dude... there is a darkside to everything.
<!--QuoteBegin--Forlorn+Sep 21 2003, 07:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Sep 21 2003, 07:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dude... there is a darkside to everything. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> Don't hate me for saying this but... the sun? Anyways, I know that Japan has a darkside, drugs, gangs, murder. But I just didn't assume their government was that... dark. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Thought that they were anti-death penelty and such. Maybe I had them mistaken with France or something...
Death penalty in Japan is by a electric chair. I dont think death penalty is a darkside though. Maybe they just teach us so we don't think so. Anyway, the prison in Japan is said tobe overcrowded, about 100% to 120%. I only saw this in TV but the prisoners are kept in cells in a group of about 4 or 5. If you are interested, there is a movie about life in Japan's prision so you might want to take a look. Although we do have death penalty, in most cases, the sentances is life in prision. They come out in about 20 or 30years though.
Here's something you guys might find interesting: The Quirky Japan Homepage. <a href='http://www3.tky.3web.ne.jp/~edjacob/intro.htm' target='_blank'>http://www3.tky.3web.ne.jp/~edjacob/intro.htm</a>
(Does anyone know where I can get subtitled episodes of Nasubi?)
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Here's something you guys might find interesting: The Quirky Japan Homepage. <a href='http://www3.tky.3web.ne.jp/~edjacob/intro.htm' target='_blank'>http://www3.tky.3web.ne.jp/~edjacob/intro.htm</a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This site was interesting for me even thought I'm a Japanese and I live in Japan. The movies I've never seen or heard before though. Same goes with some of the TV shows. Other then that is pretty much the truth.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Go listen to just about ANY J-Rock, and you'll see that japan INVENTED the kind of stuff Linkin Park does. Which is why I love Linkin Park SO FRICKIN MUCH.
ramble over. Feel free to poke me about aspects of Japanese-ness you'd like to know more about. ^^<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd like to know about racism in Japan.
What's the largest ethnic minority in Japan?
Maybe the chicks find forgieners interesting too.
But for me, there would be too many people and too much polution. Canada has 30 million people, although 85% of them live within 200KM of the US border. Still, even in that 200KM, it's probably alot less crowded than alot of American cities.
How are their laws conservative exactly? Like do they have harsh prison sentences or something? US Is pretty bad for that...
Quaunaut has a good point about American culture, but schools? I always thought Japanese schools had much more of a workload than American schools, and their students were pushed much harder. And then there is that thing about how they got awesome math skillz, but their writing creativity suffers(because they are focused on math). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, lets just say that from what I've seen on the Japanese's government's website, its...well, lets just say that if you think that the death penalty is bad here...you oughta see HOW the death penalty is dealt there.
Not to mention, there is nothing wrong with Police Brutality there, so if you screw up and pisse them off, as long as they don't kill or cripple you(permanently, that is), they can beat the snot out of you.
Also, the polution in Japan is almost nonexhistant. They have a lot of different devices that they'll put on the roofs of many of the houses, that makes polution rates go WAAY down.
And while its SO-CALLED "crowded" there, its only crowded with how many buldings and shops. Really, the people amount on the streets and in cars is less than New York, and thats in Tokyo.
And um....where the hell did you get your info on "But their creative writing skills aren't good"? Thats one of the things their reknowed for. The workload is harder on them(BY FAR), but then again, they learn by their last year in high school as much as any public college would teach, EASILY.
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I'd like to know about racism in Japan.
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Tall people.
Note: Just a joke, ok?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Go listen to just about ANY J-Rock, and you'll see that japan INVENTED the kind of stuff Linkin Park does. Which is why I love Linkin Park SO FRICKIN MUCH. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Really? You're f**king me.... Wow, it's just that the music they have seems sooo, excuse my language, p*ssy. I've never heard anything that can really be called "rock" come from Japan. But hell, where have I been the past few years...
Not to mention, there is nothing wrong with Police Brutality there, so if you screw up and pisse them off, as long as they don't kill or cripple you(permanently, that is), they can beat the snot out of you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now that's what I'd call a darkside!
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I didn't know that was possible. Crowed cities + tons of pollution = not good right?
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And while its SO-CALLED "crowded" there, its only crowded with how many buldings and shops. Really, the people amount on the streets and in cars is less than New York, and thats in Tokyo.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3/4 of Japan is mountains, they have 125 million people living on an island. Now it's not a small island, but it's still all packing into 1/4 of an island. That sounds very crowded to me, but I've never been to New York. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->nd um....where the hell did you get your info on "But their creative writing skills aren't good"? Thats one of the things their reknowed for. The workload is harder on them(BY FAR), but then again, they learn by their last year in high school as much as any public college would teach, EASILY.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe I used the wrong words, I dunno. If it's not the technical part of writing, it would be the creative part. I remember hearing on the news a few years back about a report of students in schools around the world. Some Asian countries were better at math skills than alot of other countries, but some of the other countries were better at writing skills than the Asians. MAYBE, it's refering to the english language, or maybe it means their own native language in general. I didn't say their creative writing skills aren't good, I said they suffer due to a focus on math(but I could see how I would be implying alot). Maybe their math AND writing skills are better than everyone else.
Don't you think that a large, constant workload could have that effect?
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yeah ok
that's a stupidass reason if taken too far
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But you see, I wouldn't take it too far. I would never move to another country for such simple reasons.
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As for math skills, it's only underachievers (ie dumasses) who like to stereotype and make fun of other people. In my experience it is 100% true, and I imagine it has to be so also. A broader and perhaps more accurate definition might be insecure people in general.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Making fun of people? Stereotyping? You got me all wrong.
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If you're (a dumass, not lazygamer, unless lazygamer IS a dumass :O) a bad student or had bad teachers or were a weakling who followed the crowd and are just dumb, it's not my (our) fault, you fuker.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wow. I'm amazed at your stupidity. If i made a factual mistake I made a factual mistake.
Well, lets just say that from what I've seen on the Japanese's government's website, its...well, lets just say that if you think that the death penalty is bad here...you oughta see HOW the death penalty is dealt there.
Not to mention, there is nothing wrong with Police Brutality there, so if you screw up and pisse them off, as long as they don't kill or cripple you(permanently, that is), they can beat the snot out of you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now that's what I'd call a darkside! But death penalty doesn't concern me. I'm more concerned about sentence length, how lesser crime sentences compare to murder and rape, and conditions in prisons. How does Japan do in that aspect?
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and... what gamer doesn't know the Guilty Gear Heavy Rock soundtracks? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
As for the largest ethnic minority, I believe it is Koreans. There's a fairly large number of them there for various reasons (economic, cultural, social, educational), though there's a lot of bad blood between the older Koreans and Japanese (being half-Korean myself, this is something I've had a lot of experience with -_-;;;).
As for racism, think of it this way; Japanese more or less see themselves as one big "in" club, and everyone who's not Japanese is "out." That's not to say that they're anti-foreigners, but non-Japanese are often looked at as weird curiousities, and stereotypes abound. Also, racism there is perfectly legal; you can be denied rental of housing, for instance, because you're not Japanese, and there's nothing you can do about it. This is a lot less common nowadays though, I hear.
About music, I really can't stand Japanese music in general. Japanese words are so fluid and they go together very nicely but I think rock is the complete oposite. You need those stacotoes and sudden stops that are so easy to create with the English language. (stop and think about it, English is only topped by German in "uglyness", not that it's a bad thing) Guess that's the reason I don't like Japanese pop or rock. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
Wonder if we've got any people playing ns in Japan... Unless they're sooo mainstream they've already ditched a gaming classic, Half-Life. Did Half-Life even market in Japan? Did it sell well? Meh, now I'm getting into 20 questions, would enjoy the answers though if anyone knows. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Thomas Jefferson and John Locke are presently rolling in their graves.
"We hold these truths to be SELF EVIDENT that ALL men are created EQUAL."
It is never ok to deny someone their basic human rights. Never. Especially on something as stupid as ancestry. You never, ever, ever take away people's rights.
1) Language-
The Japanese language is composed of really beautiful symbols.
2)History-
The Japanese have an interesting history.
3)TV-
The Japanese made three shows that I really love. They are Trigun, Rurouni Kenshin, and DragonBall Z. Watching these shows got me interested in learning their language, because it's so very very pretty. Rurouni Kenshin was also what got me interested in Japanese history.
So I guess when it comes down to it, the reason I like Japan is because they created Rurouni Kenshin.
Gundam is not the usual Invincible-Super-Robots. Heck, almost every character lost their Gundam at one point or another (Duo lost Deathscythe, the Asian warrior guy whose name I forget lost ?Nataku to an abmush, Heero got Wing destroyed, Trowa lost Heavyarms I)
I just like specific parts about the culture. Bushido is very much something I like, as I also like the samurai weaponry and the sheer fact that to live in Japan is to live near Kojima-san, Miyamoto-San and Uematsu-san. The three genius'es who, if they got together, could direct & score a game beter then any American ever will.
I think we have about 80 ns players here in Japan. Not sure if Half-Life sold well though. The population of PC gamers in Japan is very low compared with cosumer gamers. Still, I think it sold well then other games.
Yeah, Gundams blow up. My roommate's been watching G-Wing, and I turned around just in time to see the Deathscythe get rocked in the face. Still haven't seen one I like other than 0083, though... I'll always be a Macross gal. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
My passion for video games and my current position as a translator aside, the language really is beautiful, at least to me, spoken as well as written. I could do without kanji being so damn complicated, though.
and what Legionnaired said. I don't care where or who you are, you don't have the right to deny anyone else their rights. period.
SmokeNova, I believe Kojimasensee has attended E3, and I'm almost positive Miyamotosensee has. Maybe you could bump into them there? Perhaps even at an anime con...
"We hold these truths to be SELF EVIDENT that ALL men are created EQUAL."
It is never ok to deny someone their basic human rights. Never. Especially on something as stupid as ancestry. You never, ever, ever take away people's rights. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea but that may not be what the Japanese believe. Those rules and rights were created for our country not Japan. We'd like other countries to follow these rules but we can't force them to. (though some would beg to differ) I said I didn't accept it but could sort of understand it. Japan isn't America so they don't respect our laws and that's just the way it is.
Come with me, we'll fansub beautiful things together!
With your translation skills and my copious amounts of HK DVDs, the world is our Oyster!
Come with me, we'll fansub beautiful things together!
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Actually, I'm already translating for two groups... one is doing an H-game, the other is doing a Korean SRPG called "War of Genesis 3." I've quit fansubbing anime for good. ^^
Dude... there is a darkside to everything.
<!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif'><!--endemo--> Don't hate me for saying this but... the sun? Anyways, I know that Japan has a darkside, drugs, gangs, murder. But I just didn't assume their government was that... dark. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> Thought that they were anti-death penelty and such. Maybe I had them mistaken with France or something...
(Does anyone know where I can get subtitled episodes of Nasubi?)
This site was interesting for me even thought I'm a Japanese and I live in Japan. The movies I've never seen or heard before though. Same goes with some of the TV shows. Other then that is pretty much the truth.