Steam?

DEADscottDEADscott Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15022Members, Constellation
edited September 2003 in General Server Discussion
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From what I can tell is that sometime in the near future WON will go offline. Hence Half-Life or its mods like NS will NOT run throught the WON system. This means that our servers will have to switch over to the STEAM system. I see that they have or will be releasing the NON-BETA of Steam tonight.

I dont see much discussion about this in this forum.


Our Wonids change with steam. We lose our Ban Lists.
Adminmod, Metamod and all the rest may or not work with Steam.

How soon will WON cease to exist?
Will NS run on steam?
Isn't VAC intergrated in steam and have alot off issues with false 5 year bans?
How will this affect our ability to police our servers?
How will this affect the preformance of our servers?
When they decide to go pay to play with these Steamed games, will we still be able to have servers?
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  • prsearleprsearle Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2365Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->From what I can tell is that sometime in the near future WON will go offline. Hence Half-Life or its mods like NS will NOT run throught the WON system. This means that our servers will have to switch over to the STEAM system. I see that they have or will be releasing the NON-BETA of Steam tonight.

    I dont see much discussion about this in this forum.


    Our Wonids change with steam. We lose our Ban Lists.
    Adminmod, Metamod and all the rest may or not work with Steam.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Adminmod and metamod have been updated to work with Steam IDs as well as Won IDs. I don't know about AMX. Changing plugins to use Steam IDs rather than WON IDs isn't that hard.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How soon will WON cease to exist?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Valve has said that WON will be shutdown about two weeks after Steam becomes fully operational.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Will NS run on steam?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Valve will be releasing tools to allow mods to work under Steam in the near future.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Isn't VAC intergrated in steam and have alot off issues with false 5 year bans?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think VAC will be optional, but I'm not sure. Most of the problems with false bans should be worked out by now.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How will this affect our ability to police our servers?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It should affect it at all.
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When they decide to go pay to play with these Steamed games, will we still be able to have servers?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Of course we will still be able to run our own servers. Valve has repeatedly stated that Steam will not introduce pay-to-play for games you already own, but it is an option for other game developers who want to release their products using Steam.
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  • DEADscottDEADscott Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15022Members, Constellation
    Well I hope we get the tools to run Mods before Won goes offline.
    One more thing, will the only way to find server lists now be with Steam?

    Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
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  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    I answered some of your questions <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=46755' target='_blank'>Here</a>.

    --Scythe--
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  • TomperTomper Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13365Members
    What about HLSW / GameSpy / etc. - will those be able to launch NS via Steam? I'd like to keep using HLSW and my serverlist...
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  • BryBry Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12609Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Tomper+Sep 11 2003, 01:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tomper @ Sep 11 2003, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What about HLSW / GameSpy / etc. - will those be able to launch NS via Steam? I'd like to keep using HLSW and my serverlist... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    apparently Yes but the programs will probably need an update
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  • BonelessBoneless Join Date: 2002-09-03 Member: 1270Members
    Anyway you can create a favourites server list on Steam
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  • MendaspMendasp I touch maps in inappropriate places Valencia, Spain Join Date: 2002-07-05 Member: 884Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Gold, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Retired Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bry+Sep 11 2003, 01:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bry @ Sep 11 2003, 01:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Tomper+Sep 11 2003, 01:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tomper @ Sep 11 2003, 01:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What about HLSW / GameSpy / etc. - will those be able to launch NS via Steam? I'd like to keep using HLSW and my serverlist... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    apparently Yes but the programs will probably need an update <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ASE already could launch games with the Steam Beta, I don't know if it still works with the final version, or they will update it... anyways, ASE updates very often <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • BryBry Join Date: 2003-01-23 Member: 12609Members
    Loads of steam related questions answered here:
    <a href='http://www.brywright.co.uk/ns/steam.html' target='_blank'>http://www.brywright.co.uk/ns/steam.html</a>
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