Hope they are getting attacked. Steam must go away <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
I think the steam client release is going to be put back. The server reelase should of been out hours ago and i doubt valve will reelase the client before the server release else people will have no servers to play on <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
who knows maybe its a renagade group of anti-steamers trying to hold off the inevitable for as long as they can? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I know some people don't like change and stuff but some of the reactions to this are a bit ott, especially considering nobody really knows what's happened to it since beta o.O
Be warned !! That's Nvidias Nzone... a flash page designed for broadband users... i guess u are able to find a donwload link somewhere else on the nvidia page.
<span style='color:white'>admin note: this is a link to the Steam <b>beta</b>. Once Steam servers are up and running, however, you will be able to update it to Steam 1.0.</span>
<i>Coil might be right, it might be the beta ... but the file itself is smaller then the beta installer. (500 kb as oppossed to 4 mb) so it might be the new installer.</i>
BUT .... the Steam servers are already DOWN... After about 20 retries i couldnt connect .... as expected ..... you better wait a few days and try it again . And i have the feeling that im writing far too much " .... "
So calm down.
-Paladin
[edit] I just read on multiple sites , that the client (possibly) is delayed ... so maybe nvidia just didnt know. So it's MEANT not to work for now as the servers are MEANT to be down ... [edit]
I'm going to go find coil on IRC and get him to delete some of these pessimistic spam posts. This thread is about information, not uninformed guesses...
Can someone explain to me what Steam has to do with NS?
It does not seem to be 'supported'. Will I have to use it if I only play NS?
I don't know where my original CDs are for CounterStrike. Can I find my serial number somewhere in the registry, since I apparently need it again to install Steam?
So basically, the question is how is this going to affect the average NS player.
<!--QuoteBegin--Ihmemies+Sep 10 2003, 03:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ihmemies @ Sep 10 2003, 03:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Seems that they removed it from nzone. Could someone send the steam client to my email or maybe use IRC or ICQ? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It won't be of any use. The initial 500Kb file simply connects to the steam servers to download and install the rest of the software.
<b>@Tempus:</b> Basically, there isn't much changing. In the past you'd have to install your CS retail to be able to play NS.
In the future you'll have to install Steam instead of CS retail to be able to play NS.
Also as long as NS isn't fully integrated into Steam, you won't be able to use Steam's auto-update to download updates for NS. So you'd still have to download updates seperately and install them, just like you're used to.
All in all not much will change for us steam-newbies. That's because the final version of Steam will have a lot fewer limitations than the beta version that has been available so far.
<b>Edit:</b> In a couple of weeks there'll be a patch for each retail game (i.e. Half-Life, CS retail, etc.) that can be used as a base for playing Half-Life mods, which will switch the game over to Steam. Until then, it's not mandatory to upgrade to it.
But i like the old way of downloading all files manually, at the time i WANT it so it wont mess with my connection when i need it. I like reading thru changelogs and then saying "yes, its cool, i like it and i will download it", not some auto stupid thing that will automatically download every crap it founds at terribly low speeds but still high enough to make my ping go sky high.
You can disable the auto-update feature in Steam. So, theoretically you'd be very well be able to update your games 'classic style' (i.e. 56k users getting updates from game mag cds).
I had concerns about all this, too. But I've found out that the whole talk about limitations that Steam would push upon us won't qualify for the final version that is about to be released.
They're just starting with it. Give it a chance. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
You'd be a fool not to try the official version considering it would be free ( with a cd key). Let's not make hasty decisions before we see the final product.
<!--QuoteBegin--::esuna::+Sep 10 2003, 10:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (::esuna:: @ Sep 10 2003, 10:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, i've made it no secret in #naturalselection that i'm not liking Steam.
Most of my opinions are based on the beta, admittedly, but i have as much experience with the final release as anyone else. This meaning i have as much right to say it'll be crap as anyone else has of saying it'll be great. Neither of us know.
When it comes to gaming online, there are three things that concern me. I'll address each point and give my opinion on how the pending Steam release will affect it.
<b>1]</b>Pings: Well obviously, pings matter, a bad ping is what can stand between you killing someone or being killed yourself. We all know that. But from the beta of Steam i experienced a ping raise of 50-100ms, this is, quite frankly, unacceptable, so i closed the app and alls well again and my ping drops to 60. While i admit that that was the beta i was using, the confirmed "constant updates" and the adverts in Steam mean that your bandwidth will be constantly trickling away through an application at that point, and from the features list, is useless to me.
<b>2]</b>System Resources: Why, exactly, do i need to have this application running at all times i wish to play Half-Life? I have accounts with MSN, ICQ and AIM, i have no need for another IM client. What's that? You can play checkers? Who cares! I have a checkers board up in my attic and there's a reason it's dusty and been unused for the best part of a decade! I don't NEED <b>ANY</b> of this added crap that Steam gives me. I just don't. I don't want flashy features, i don't want it to suddenly start doing a dance, i want to play Half-Life, i've been playing it for some 5 years without this crap, what makes them think i need it now?
<b>3]</b>Tossers: As you may well know, over the years of Half-Life epic banlists and blacklists have been formed either privately by admins or publically. These are for a VERY good reason. Hell, look at bygames' epic banlist for example, they're all very valid and the sheer number of them is not to be underestimated. So they think it's a GOOD idea that they just reset the banlists and let these legions of griefers and abusive players flood back to the servers they were once banned from? Yeah, maybe a handful of people (in comparison) have been banned for VAC slip-ups, so it's a good thing, but the good doesn't even NEARLY compare to the bad.
So in conclusion, i will use Steam, i love playing Half-Life, but if my pings are drastically affected at all, i will give up and i will end up leaving the community, all because of a very poor decision made by VALVe.
I end with this saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It is broke.
Sierra basically used Valve and now, Valve is taking hold. The reason you don't get as many updates for HL is Sierra. The reason that your "CD Key" is invalid all the time is Sierra.
This is about breaking away from Sierra.
Also, the basic HL interface is outdated because I seriously doubt anyone expected the longevity of HL. This is an upgrade and it fixes a ton of bugs. Your arguments are completely unfounded anyway. I played the Steam beta the day it came out and didn't get any ping issues at all. As far as system resouces go - what else do you really need on while playing a freaking video game? Winamp? If it lags your computer ( it didn't lag my 1.1ghz 128mb machine ) then go purchase some RAM. And of the banlists? I genuinely laugh at that. These are people that are banned for hacking, being idiots, etc. Do you honestly think a simple wonID ban does anything? If it does, they simply stop playing and you won't have to worry about them returning. If they didn't they just got a new wonID and are still out there.
Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but such a negative spin doesn't really help anyone. But you are so quick to question the Chess and Checkers. That's what really hurts.
<!--QuoteBegin--Diskord+Sep 10 2003, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diskord @ Sep 10 2003, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but such a negative spin doesn't really help anyone. But you are so quick to question the Chess and Checkers. That's what really hurts. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> checkers rox your sox bud, screw everything else, the first week steam comes out Ill be playing Checkers <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
ATTN: If you don't want to use Steam you better make shure you don't download the newest half-life patch as it will integrate Steam into HL thus preventing you from playing NS! Whatever you do don't upgrade your HL!
<!--QuoteBegin--Supra_Soldier+Sep 10 2003, 09:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supra_Soldier @ Sep 10 2003, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ATTN: If you don't want to use Steam you better make shure you don't download the newest half-life patch as it will integrate Steam into HL thus preventing you from playing NS! Whatever you do don't upgrade your HL! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That won't work, as eventually the WON servers are going to be taken offline and you won't be able to play anything outside of a LAN game anymore.
WTH is this about a monthly fee? If they integrate monthly fees into FPS's then its will inevitably spread from there to every single online game. At least right now its contained to MMORPG's where i hope it stays... I fear the only place to play online games for free a couple of years from now is ganna be Battle.net and we all know how much that place sucks... And for those of you that think a 10$ monthy fee isnt bad consider this: with 10$ a month the ONLY thing you get is upgrades and games. And, be honest, how many of you spent 120$ on your VALVe game this year? Also, if VALVe can get people to pay for their expansions online they will no doubt begin charging us for patches whitch they will cleverly disguise as "Upgrades". Be wary, our you'll be emptying your pockets for something you already payed for.
Oh and lets not forget, when you buy a game online, such as half-life you thats all ur getting, you get no game box or game manual (which i personally like to collect and save from all the games ive bough, I have a little library of game boxes and manuals). If your lucky you might get a free .PDF file as your game manual, but thats about it.
<!--QuoteBegin--Tempus+Sep 10 2003, 01:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tempus @ Sep 10 2003, 01:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't know where my original CDs are for CounterStrike. Can I find my serial number somewhere in the registry, since I apparently need it again to install Steam? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You can find it in the registry under hkey_current_user -> software -> valve -> half-life (or counter-strike or whatever) -> and the key you're looking for is called <b>KEY</b>.
I personally like steam, but right now it doesn't have many users because its a semi-closed beta test. And my ping has skyrocketed, but maybe thats because all the servers are not exactly in Texas. When the rest of the 1 million or more half life'ers go steam, its going to hell. Just like the 2.0 launch. Great idea, poorly planned. Yes, I have steam 2.0, so I have the liberty to critize it all I want. In game, its great. The chat and everything is superbly integrated. But, the out-of-game leaves much to be desired.
Don't remember where I have my cd-case with the cd key for HL, but that doesn't matter...I got the key memorized...you try and install HL a 1000 times, and then you'll see that the key will be forever burned in your brain <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh...and as for Steam...have no clue how it will be like as I've never tried any betas or anything. I am VERY worried though nontheless for the possibility that Steam may be as bad as some say it is.
<!--QuoteBegin--Supra_Soldier+Sep 11 2003, 02:13 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Supra_Soldier @ Sep 11 2003, 02:13 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> WTH is this about a monthly fee? If they integrate monthly fees into FPS's then its will inevitably spread from there to every single online game. At least right now its contained to MMORPG's where i hope it stays... I fear the only place to play online games for free a couple of years from now is ganna be Battle.net and we all know how much that place sucks... And for those of you that think a 10$ monthy fee isnt bad consider this: with 10$ a month the ONLY thing you get is upgrades and games. And, be honest, how many of you spent 120$ on your VALVe game this year? Also, if VALVe can get people to pay for their expansions online they will no doubt begin charging us for patches whitch they will cleverly disguise as "Upgrades". Be wary, our you'll be emptying your pockets for something you already payed for.
Oh and lets not forget, when you buy a game online, such as half-life you thats all ur getting, you get no game box or game manual (which i personally like to collect and save from all the games ive bough, I have a little library of game boxes and manuals). If your lucky you might get a free .PDF file as your game manual, but thats about it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Read it again. It's a purchase <b>option</b> if you haven't bought a Valve product already. You'll be able to play HL and all it's mods for free still. This is just an uber upgrade. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Waldo (one of the DoD dev-team guys), has posted a pretty insightful FAQ concerning Steam and the changes coming along with it. <a href='http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17033' target='_blank'>Link</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--Skyrage+Sep 11 2003, 03:04 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Skyrage @ Sep 11 2003, 03:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Don't remember where I have my cd-case with the cd key for HL, but that doesn't matter...I got the key memorized...you try and install HL a 1000 times, and then you'll see that the key will be forever burned in your brain <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Oh...and as for Steam...have no clue how it will be like as I've never tried any betas or anything. I am VERY worried though nontheless for the possibility that Steam may be as bad as some say it is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> not to fear; everyone's cd key is stored in their registry as we speak, and if you're too much of an unorganized slob to have saved your key or CD case, a quick registry check can unsurface the key
open regedit (by clicking on start button and selecting run, and typing in "regedit" then enter)
once in the <b>Settings</b> folder, look for a string value entitled <b>Key</b> next to "Key" will be a number, 13 digits long, that is your HL cd key.
AND, if you can't figure out how to do the above, i say good riddance, its kind of like a eugenics cleansing of the HL community (one which is long overdue).
<!--QuoteBegin--kann_nix+Sep 11 2003, 04:55 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kann_nix @ Sep 11 2003, 04:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> AND, if you can't figure out how to do the above, i say good riddance, its kind of like a eugenics cleansing of the HL community (one which is long overdue). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> amen, brothah!
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Steam must go away <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
I think the steam client release is going to be put back. The server reelase should of been out hours ago and i doubt valve will reelase the client before the server release else people will have no servers to play on <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
they have even removed the bg pictures and link images yet its still so slow.
Well i wonder what will happen come 7pm GMT when steam is released when half a billion ppl try downloading it. I hope their servers melt :E
<a href='http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33709836' target='_blank'>Link</a>
I know some people don't like change and stuff but some of the reactions to this are a bit ott, especially considering nobody really knows what's happened to it since beta o.O
<a href='http://www.nvidia.com/nzone/' target='_blank'>http://www.nvidia.com/nzone/</a>
Be warned !! That's Nvidias Nzone... a flash page designed for broadband users... i guess u are able to find a donwload link somewhere else on the nvidia page.
<span style='color:white'>admin note: this is a link to the Steam <b>beta</b>. Once Steam servers are up and running, however, you will be able to update it to Steam 1.0.</span>
<i>Coil might be right, it might be the beta ... but the file itself is smaller then the beta installer. (500 kb as oppossed to 4 mb) so it might be the new installer.</i>
BUT .... the Steam servers are already DOWN... After about 20 retries i couldnt connect .... as expected ..... you better wait a few days and try it again .
And i have the feeling that im writing far too much " .... "
So calm down.
-Paladin
[edit]
I just read on multiple sites , that the client (possibly) is delayed ... so maybe nvidia just didnt know. So it's MEANT not to work for now as the servers are MEANT to be down ...
[edit]
Please don't post if you don't know anything.
It does not seem to be 'supported'. Will I have to use it if I only play NS?
I don't know where my original CDs are for CounterStrike. Can I find my serial number somewhere in the registry, since I apparently need it again to install Steam?
So basically, the question is how is this going to affect the average NS player.
Thanks.
It won't be of any use. The initial 500Kb file simply connects to the steam servers to download and install the rest of the software.
Just wait till things get more under control.
Basically, there isn't much changing. In the past you'd
have to install your CS retail to be able to play NS.
In the future you'll have to install Steam instead of
CS retail to be able to play NS.
Also as long as NS isn't fully integrated into Steam, you
won't be able to use Steam's auto-update to download
updates for NS. So you'd still have to download updates
seperately and install them, just like you're used to.
All in all not much will change for us steam-newbies. That's
because the final version of Steam will have a lot fewer
limitations than the beta version that has been available
so far.
<b>Edit:</b> In a couple of weeks there'll be a patch for each
retail game (i.e. Half-Life, CS retail, etc.) that can be used as
a base for playing Half-Life mods, which will switch the game
over to Steam. Until then, it's not mandatory to upgrade to it.
you'd be very well be able to update your games 'classic style'
(i.e. 56k users getting updates from game mag cds).
I had concerns about all this, too. But I've found out that the whole
talk about limitations that Steam would push upon us won't qualify
for the final version that is about to be released.
They're just starting with it. Give it a chance. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Most of my opinions are based on the beta, admittedly, but i have as much experience with the final release as anyone else. This meaning i have as much right to say it'll be crap as anyone else has of saying it'll be great. Neither of us know.
When it comes to gaming online, there are three things that concern me. I'll address each point and give my opinion on how the pending Steam release will affect it.
<b>1]</b>Pings:
Well obviously, pings matter, a bad ping is what can stand between you killing someone or being killed yourself. We all know that. But from the beta of Steam i experienced a ping raise of 50-100ms, this is, quite frankly, unacceptable, so i closed the app and alls well again and my ping drops to 60. While i admit that that was the beta i was using, the confirmed "constant updates" and the adverts in Steam mean that your bandwidth will be constantly trickling away through an application at that point, and from the features list, is useless to me.
<b>2]</b>System Resources:
Why, exactly, do i need to have this application running at all times i wish to play Half-Life? I have accounts with MSN, ICQ and AIM, i have no need for another IM client. What's that? You can play checkers? Who cares! I have a checkers board up in my attic and there's a reason it's dusty and been unused for the best part of a decade! I don't NEED <b>ANY</b> of this added crap that Steam gives me. I just don't. I don't want flashy features, i don't want it to suddenly start doing a dance, i want to play Half-Life, i've been playing it for some 5 years without this crap, what makes them think i need it now?
<b>3]</b>Tossers:
As you may well know, over the years of Half-Life epic banlists and blacklists have been formed either privately by admins or publically. These are for a VERY good reason. Hell, look at bygames' epic banlist for example, they're all very valid and the sheer number of them is not to be underestimated. So they think it's a GOOD idea that they just reset the banlists and let these legions of griefers and abusive players flood back to the servers they were once banned from? Yeah, maybe a handful of people (in comparison) have been banned for VAC slip-ups, so it's a good thing, but the good doesn't even NEARLY compare to the bad.
So in conclusion, i will use Steam, i love playing Half-Life, but if my pings are drastically affected at all, i will give up and i will end up leaving the community, all because of a very poor decision made by VALVe.
I end with this saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It is broke.
Sierra basically used Valve and now, Valve is taking hold. The reason you don't get as many updates for HL is Sierra. The reason that your "CD Key" is invalid all the time is Sierra.
This is about breaking away from Sierra.
Also, the basic HL interface is outdated because I seriously doubt anyone expected the longevity of HL. This is an upgrade and it fixes a ton of bugs. Your arguments are completely unfounded anyway. I played the Steam beta the day it came out and didn't get any ping issues at all. As far as system resouces go - what else do you really need on while playing a freaking video game? Winamp? If it lags your computer ( it didn't lag my 1.1ghz 128mb machine ) then go purchase some RAM. And of the banlists? I genuinely laugh at that. These are people that are banned for hacking, being idiots, etc. Do you honestly think a simple wonID ban does anything? If it does, they simply stop playing and you won't have to worry about them returning. If they didn't they just got a new wonID and are still out there.
Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but such a negative spin doesn't really help anyone. But you are so quick to question the Chess and Checkers. That's what really hurts.
checkers rox your sox bud, screw everything else, the first week steam comes out Ill be playing Checkers <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
That won't work, as eventually the WON servers are going to be taken offline and you won't be able to play anything outside of a LAN game anymore.
Oh and lets not forget, when you buy a game online, such as half-life you thats all ur getting, you get no game box or game manual (which i personally like to collect and save from all the games ive bough, I have a little library of game boxes and manuals). If your lucky you might get a free .PDF file as your game manual, but thats about it.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You can find it in the registry under hkey_current_user -> software -> valve -> half-life (or counter-strike or whatever) -> and the key you're looking for is called <b>KEY</b>.
Oh...and as for Steam...have no clue how it will be like as I've never tried any betas or anything. I am VERY worried though nontheless for the possibility that Steam may be as bad as some say it is.
Oh and lets not forget, when you buy a game online, such as half-life you thats all ur getting, you get no game box or game manual (which i personally like to collect and save from all the games ive bough, I have a little library of game boxes and manuals). If your lucky you might get a free .PDF file as your game manual, but thats about it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Read it again. It's a purchase <b>option</b> if you haven't bought a Valve product already. You'll be able to play HL and all it's mods for free still. This is just an uber upgrade. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
FAQ concerning Steam and the changes coming along with it. <a href='http://www.dayofdefeat.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17033' target='_blank'>Link</a>
Oh...and as for Steam...have no clue how it will be like as I've never tried any betas or anything. I am VERY worried though nontheless for the possibility that Steam may be as bad as some say it is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
not to fear; everyone's cd key is stored in their registry as we speak, and if you're too much of an unorganized slob to have saved your key or CD case, a quick registry check can unsurface the key
open regedit (by clicking on start button and selecting run, and typing in "regedit" then enter)
expand the following folders in this order:
<b>HKEY_CURRENT_USER / Software / Valve / CounterStrike / Settings</b>
or
<b>HKEY_CURRENT_USER / Software / Valve / Half-Life / Settings</b>
once in the <b>Settings</b> folder, look for a string value entitled <b>Key</b>
next to "Key" will be a number, 13 digits long, that is your HL cd key.
AND, if you can't figure out how to do the above, i say good riddance, its
kind of like a eugenics cleansing of the HL community (one which is long
overdue).
kind of like a eugenics cleansing of the HL community (one which is long
overdue). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
amen, brothah!