<!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Sep 4 2003, 09:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Sep 4 2003, 09:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> PPS: CWAG, your lack of attention to detail is not Valve's problem. I hope you do better with things like stop signs. Or do you just have to memorize the shapes to avoid killing pedestrians? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That. Was. Awesome.
I'm surprised you didn't tell him to go play on the highway.
My concern comes in when some kid is in the store with his parents, and they buy him the cheapest one no matter what the box says, I mean, we have this going on at my job (see attatched image). People, about half, dont understand that they box is empty.
Now multiple this by maybe 10 000 kids, who cant play multiplayer now cause thier parents wont pay the upgrade price online... and you get a bunch of angry fans <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
And this is quite a good analogy I say <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Could someone explain this steam thing to me??? the way i see it u pay ya tenner a month and get to download all of Values games goodies etc..
Now for someone like me on 56k with very limited bandwith this is totally worthless never mind the fact im not gonna pay a tenner a month.
As for the games and expansions for HL2 on steam im guessing they will release them in shops?? just like with HL1 things so u just go out and buy them? to me this sounds like the best idea so maybe in 2064 when im old and board i might just want a go on HL2.
The fact that TFC2 is an expansion kind of worries me as what games do u get with HL2 for online play? im guessing just normal HL2 and maybe that god awful ricochet thing.
<!--QuoteBegin--Comprox+Sep 5 2003, 12:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ Sep 5 2003, 12:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And this is quite a good analogy I say <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If they're so infantile to be unable to understand something so simple, then HL2 is probably too "M"ature for them.
*looks at news* *look of sheer terror* What If I preordered HL2 Ages ago!?!? WTHluff would happen then? I'm not paying 30pounds for a SP only version!?!?! *twicthes and then collapses* Why is valve doing this?! It's MADNESS D:
So what everyone here is complaining about is <i>people that would have been retarded non-RTFM annoying nubcaeks will not be able to play mods with you and ruin your game online because they were too stupid to buy a proper copy of HL...</i>
Does anyone else see this as a good thing? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Sep 5 2003, 02:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Sep 5 2003, 02:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So what everyone here is complaining about is <i>people that would have been retarded non-RTFM annoying nubcaeks will not be able to play mods with you and ruin your game online because they were too stupid to buy a proper copy of HL...</i>
Does anyone else see this as a good thing? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> No. DOOM's point is that this would be a bad thing, that everyone was a nub once, and I agree with that. By keeping nubs out of the game, we limit the growth of our hobby and the industry - surely that can't be a good thing.
<!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Sep 5 2003, 09:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Sep 5 2003, 09:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So what everyone here is complaining about is <i>people that would have been retarded non-RTFM annoying nubcaeks will not be able to play mods with you and ruin your game online because they were too stupid to buy a proper copy of HL...</i>
Does anyone else see this as a good thing? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=36106' target='_blank'>Voila</a>
I rest my case <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
TalesinOur own little well of hateJoin Date: 2002-11-08Member: 7710NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators
edited September 2003
<!--QuoteBegin--CommunistWithAGun+Sep 5 2003, 07:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Sep 5 2003, 07:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Sep 5 2003, 09:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Sep 5 2003, 09:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So what everyone here is complaining about is <i>people that would have been retarded non-RTFM annoying nubcaeks will not be able to play mods with you and ruin your game online because they were too stupid to buy a proper copy of HL...</i>
Does anyone else see this as a good thing? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=36106' target='_blank'>Voila</a>
I rest my case <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=5' target='_blank'>Voila</a>. I rest my counter-argument.
Well, apparently my attempt at hyperbole was over some heads. The point was that if someone is incapable of <b>even figuring out how to buy a game to go online</b>, they are probably not ready for online play. Think of it as Best Buy Natural Selection. Pointing out that you want online play to grow... uh, it's not in danger of dying out anytime soon. All you stop are people that should probably have training wheels strapped to their feet. A fair tradeoff in my mind.
Valve, I just have to ask one simple question. Why?
Why make this whole thing so complex? Why release all these differant versions when one would do the job just fine? Half Life worked absolutly fine with the simple formula of all-in-one so why change it? I just can't see why Valve would want to make everything so complex. Half Life 2 is going to be more popular than sliced bread so I can't see why they'd complicate matters like this. Forcing people to chose between differant "versions" just strikes me as overly complex and completly unnessassary.
<!--QuoteBegin--Maus+Sep 4 2003, 07:00 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maus @ Sep 4 2003, 07:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> A viable-ish way for them to do it would be to charge an extra ten bucks (or whatever) as and when you whanted to enable its online capabilities - a bit like buying your WONID. And at the end of the day, that's not a huge outlay when you consider that we've all <i>way</i> more than got our money's worth out of the original HL through online play. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> that would also help to counter-act cheats, since I doubt someone is gonna shell out extra money just to cheat, then get their wonid banned <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Valve, I just have to ask one simple question. Why?
Why make this whole thing so complex? Why release all these differant versions when one would do the job just fine? Half Life worked absolutly fine with the simple formula of all-in-one so why change it? I just can't see why Valve would want to make everything so complex. Half Life 2 is going to be more popular than sliced bread so I can't see why they'd complicate matters like this. Forcing people to chose between differant "versions" just strikes me as overly complex and completly unnessassary. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't see why you people are getting all pissy, honestly. The <b>only</b> thing Valve is doing is giving people more <b>options</b>, they're not trying to screw anyone out of any money.
Lets look at the options;
1.) You can buy the standard version HL2, that comes with Single Player and Multiplayer. The cost is ~$50, its the same damn thing you did with Half-Life (except you losers who waited so long to get it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ).
2.) You can buy HL2 with single player <b>only</b>. Not interested in multiplayer? Fine, great! Get this and save your cash. Even if you decide to later upgrade to multiplayer, you can do so through Steam and the cost will be about the difference between the cost of the HL SP + MP and the HL SP versions.
3.) You can subscribe to a Steam account. Paying $9.95 a month. You'll have access to everything Valve has made and everything Valve will make (as long as your still subscribed). The perfect option for those who cant afford $50 lump some and still want MP - or, those who just was to rent the game before they buy, or even those cheap **** who will pay $9.95 for one month, beat HL2, then cancel. Sure, they wont get to keep it, but they can rent HL2 for a month for $10 - try doing that at a blockbuster or something ... costs you $10 for like .. a weekend rental.
Regarding Steam - it comes with HL2 and its a <b>part</b> of HL2 - hell, it was <b>designed</b> with HL2 in mind! It is <b>required</b> to play online. You are no longer going to be logging into WON server - but instead the Steam servers. If they cancel Steam, thats it, MP is gone. Steam is as much a part of HL2 as the console and ingame browser were a part of HL.
And to put it even simpler for you slower people out there, who want it really, really simple ...
If you want it to be exactly like HL was, get your little booties up, get over to your local Wal-Mart and buy HL2. Now .... heres the <b>really</b> tricky part ... you have to actually <b>read</b> the box. If you can't read, you even still have a good chance at getting the right version. When you pick up the HL2 box and it only costs $25 or so ... its safe to bet that your only going to have single player.
Ono! They ran out of MP versions at the store! No problem. Buy the SP version, then upgrade once you get home.
Ono! I have a 28.8 modem and Im a loser! Well, ffs. What do you do when other games are sold out? You either wait, or go some where else. To be safe ... you could always <b>preorder</b> your copy of HL2 - in most cases, you'll even get a neat little shirt with it!!!!@1!1!!omghax!!1
Now honestly, you guys think after all Valve has done, they'd just have a brain fart and screw over their entire fan base?
The <b>only</b> thing they did was give people options, and your criticizing them for it ... Blah. I like democracy, thank you.
<!--QuoteBegin--Ryo-Ohki+Sep 5 2003, 03:52 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Sep 5 2003, 03:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Forcing people to chose between differant "versions" just strikes me as overly complex and completly unnessassary. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <b>FORCING</b> people to <b>CHOOSE</b> ...?!
Are you <b><u>serious</u></b>?!
Ya .. **** me if I want to save $20 by buying only the single player version and have no interest in MP at all ...
oh, you know what's a better idea ...? I think they should release <b>only</b> the single player version, then make people upgrade through Steam if they want MP. That seems rather simple to me.
The point is, the world does <b>not</b> revolve around you. Options are <b>not</b> a bad thing. A you that insecure about your abbilities you dont think you will be able to tell the difference between the two boxes?! Honestly!
You think Valve is just going to toss in random material into each box, lable them all <b>exactly</b> the same then just toss some prices on them and play it like a lottory?!
We've not had any new information on Half Life 2 yet and we have yet to hear back from Vivendi as to what's going on. If they do issue 3 versions of the game, we will contact you to confirm your order. Thanks,
Gameplay After Sales <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Sep 5 2003, 05:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Sep 5 2003, 05:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Silverfox is back... and he's going to make you his *****!
Much <3 to SF after that awesome and completely correct rant. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
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lol @ joke.
That. Was. Awesome.
I'm surprised you didn't tell him to go play on the highway.
Now multiple this by maybe 10 000 kids, who cant play multiplayer now cause thier parents wont pay the upgrade price online... and you get a bunch of angry fans <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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Customer: Yeah gimme a HL SP, no MP
Employee: We only have HL MP SPs in stock, or I can get you a HL SP MP Deluxe.
Customer: How much is the HL MP SP Deluxe?
Employee: A bit more then the HL MP SP.
Customer: What about HL SP MP.
Employee: Same thing as the HL MP SP and HL SP MP Deluxe.
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Starbucks Boutique anyone?
Could someone explain this steam thing to me??? the way i see it u pay ya tenner a month and get to download all of Values games goodies etc..
Now for someone like me on 56k with very limited bandwith this is totally worthless never mind the fact im not gonna pay a tenner a month.
As for the games and expansions for HL2 on steam im guessing they will release them in shops?? just like with HL1 things so u just go out and buy them? to me this sounds like the best idea so maybe in 2064 when im old and board i might just want a go on HL2.
The fact that TFC2 is an expansion kind of worries me as what games do u get with HL2 for online play? im guessing just normal HL2 and maybe that god awful ricochet thing.
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If they're so infantile to be unable to understand something so simple, then HL2 is probably too "M"ature for them.
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*look of sheer terror*
What If I preordered HL2 Ages ago!?!? WTHluff would happen then? I'm not paying 30pounds for a SP only version!?!?! *twicthes and then collapses*
Why is valve doing this?! It's MADNESS D:
Does anyone else see this as a good thing? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Does anyone else see this as a good thing? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
No. DOOM's point is that this would be a bad thing, that everyone was a nub once, and I agree with that. By keeping nubs out of the game, we limit the growth of our hobby and the industry - surely that can't be a good thing.
Does anyone else see this as a good thing? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=36106' target='_blank'>Voila</a>
I rest my case <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
Does anyone else see this as a good thing? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=10&t=36106' target='_blank'>Voila</a>
I rest my case <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=5' target='_blank'>Voila</a>. I rest my counter-argument.
Why make this whole thing so complex? Why release all these differant versions when one would do the job just fine? Half Life worked absolutly fine with the simple formula of all-in-one so why change it? I just can't see why Valve would want to make everything so complex. Half Life 2 is going to be more popular than sliced bread so I can't see why they'd complicate matters like this. Forcing people to chose between differant "versions" just strikes me as overly complex and completly unnessassary.
<a href='http://www.artdolls.com/images/catalog/viola.jpg' target='_blank'>Counter-viola</a>
that would also help to counter-act cheats, since I doubt someone is gonna shell out extra money just to cheat, then get their wonid banned <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Why make this whole thing so complex? Why release all these differant versions when one would do the job just fine? Half Life worked absolutly fine with the simple formula of all-in-one so why change it? I just can't see why Valve would want to make everything so complex. Half Life 2 is going to be more popular than sliced bread so I can't see why they'd complicate matters like this. Forcing people to chose between differant "versions" just strikes me as overly complex and completly unnessassary.
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One word. Cash.
oooo k...
I don't see why you people are getting all pissy, honestly. The <b>only</b> thing Valve is doing is giving people more <b>options</b>, they're not trying to screw anyone out of any money.
Lets look at the options;
1.) You can buy the standard version HL2, that comes with Single Player and Multiplayer. The cost is ~$50, its the same damn thing you did with Half-Life (except you losers who waited so long to get it <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> ).
2.) You can buy HL2 with single player <b>only</b>. Not interested in multiplayer? Fine, great! Get this and save your cash. Even if you decide to later upgrade to multiplayer, you can do so through Steam and the cost will be about the difference between the cost of the HL SP + MP and the HL SP versions.
3.) You can subscribe to a Steam account. Paying $9.95 a month. You'll have access to everything Valve has made and everything Valve will make (as long as your still subscribed). The perfect option for those who cant afford $50 lump some and still want MP - or, those who just was to rent the game before they buy, or even those cheap **** who will pay $9.95 for one month, beat HL2, then cancel. Sure, they wont get to keep it, but they can rent HL2 for a month for $10 - try doing that at a blockbuster or something ... costs you $10 for like .. a weekend rental.
Regarding Steam - it comes with HL2 and its a <b>part</b> of HL2 - hell, it was <b>designed</b> with HL2 in mind! It is <b>required</b> to play online. You are no longer going to be logging into WON server - but instead the Steam servers. If they cancel Steam, thats it, MP is gone. Steam is as much a part of HL2 as the console and ingame browser were a part of HL.
And to put it even simpler for you slower people out there, who want it really, really simple ...
If you want it to be exactly like HL was, get your little booties up, get over to your local Wal-Mart and buy HL2. Now .... heres the <b>really</b> tricky part ... you have to actually <b>read</b> the box. If you can't read, you even still have a good chance at getting the right version. When you pick up the HL2 box and it only costs $25 or so ... its safe to bet that your only going to have single player.
Ono! They ran out of MP versions at the store! No problem. Buy the SP version, then upgrade once you get home.
Ono! I have a 28.8 modem and Im a loser! Well, ffs. What do you do when other games are sold out? You either wait, or go some where else. To be safe ... you could always <b>preorder</b> your copy of HL2 - in most cases, you'll even get a neat little shirt with it!!!!@1!1!!omghax!!1
Now honestly, you guys think after all Valve has done, they'd just have a brain fart and screw over their entire fan base?
The <b>only</b> thing they did was give people options, and your criticizing them for it ... Blah. I like democracy, thank you.
As well as having Rei in his Avatar and sig, that automatically gives him +10 cool post points
<b>FORCING</b> people to <b>CHOOSE</b> ...?!
Are you <b><u>serious</u></b>?!
Ya .. **** me if I want to save $20 by buying only the single player version and have no interest in MP at all ...
oh, you know what's a better idea ...? I think they should release <b>only</b> the single player version, then make people upgrade through Steam if they want MP. That seems rather simple to me.
The point is, the world does <b>not</b> revolve around you. Options are <b>not</b> a bad thing. A you that insecure about your abbilities you dont think you will be able to tell the difference between the two boxes?! Honestly!
You think Valve is just going to toss in random material into each box, lable them all <b>exactly</b> the same then just toss some prices on them and play it like a lottory?!
Sorry for the rant - but FFS.
I'd love to hear why.
Prove it.
Much <3 to SF after that awesome and completely correct rant.
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Hi,
We've not had any new information on Half Life 2 yet and we have yet to hear back from Vivendi as to what's going on. If they do issue 3 versions of the game, we will contact you to confirm your order.
Thanks,
Gameplay After Sales
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That may ease <b>some</b> fears
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