Steam About To Be Released.
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Originally posted by [pmers]BulliT
I tried to get my mod running (www.planethalflife.com/agmod) with steam but it kinda nukes on me - will there be an updated SDK available in a decent amount of time before this release?
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After we reset the beta we'll work with any MOD developers to make sure everything works in Steam. There isn't any reason why they shouldn't.
Things are going to change a bit after we reset the account database and release a new version of Steam, so try again then and then let me know if it's still not working.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i just thought flayra and the dev team would like to see
and a ways down he says:
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Originally posted by [pmers]BulliT
I tried to get my mod running (www.planethalflife.com/agmod) with steam but it kinda nukes on me - will there be an updated SDK available in a decent amount of time before this release?
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After we reset the beta we'll work with any MOD developers to make sure everything works in Steam. There isn't any reason why they shouldn't.
Things are going to change a bit after we reset the account database and release a new version of Steam, so try again then and then let me know if it's still not working.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i just thought flayra and the dev team would like to see
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Good news for the banned cheaters.
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Windows 98, ME, 2000 or XP
500 MB HD space
256 MB RAM
1.0 Ghz processor
1GB HD space (strongly recommended)
Broadband Internet connection (128kb/s or higher strongly recommended)
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And this is the bad news, I guess.
All the old bans will be invalidated, that's why. General amnesty.
steam sux and i hope someone hacks valve and destroyes all data that has anything to do with steam.
( even though that will never happen )
eh? i can dream ey
edit: if you like steam because of the chess and tetirs u play when your dead, then ive seen a couple of those around already. i cant remmember where they were, but i remmemberd a certain ogc had it in it, so if you know about coding just download that ogc and rip the game code out.
It's beta software. 'Nuff said.
<b>EDIT:</b> Removed link, as there is already one at the top <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> Oops...
Steam downloads content on-the-fly. You don't need half-life, or a CD-key to play it (currently)* Thusly, it must re-download/copy the game files for half-life and counterstrike
I actually like steam. It doesnt have problems with alt-tab, I like the interface where you can find the servers your friends are playing on without having to use third party stuff that usually sucks. I would play NS on steam, though I think it would be better to wait for half-life 2 which will probally have these sort of features, and not have sloppy netcode.
*It may check cd-key or hl installation, but people with identical CD-keys can still play together.
2)We buy games directly through steam? Why is this needed? Is the ol' order of internet/buy at store system not good enough? Or is steam just an alternative?
MonkeyMaster: You sound like a 10 year old complaining about something you don't understand. You barely make any sense, and you don't give any arguments AGAINST STEAM.
RockinRicky: it's a SEPERATE PROGRAM. It creates a fresh copy of any game you play through it, and of course you have to make new binds for it, being a new program. And since it's creating a new copy of the game by downloading files as needed over the internet, of COURSE it is going to make a second copy of Half-Life.
LazyGamer: You don't have to buy games through it. It's also for people who already own the game. It will enable much more frequent smaller patches, allowing developers to quickly patch individual exploits or cheats without releasing an entire new version. As for purchasing, it eliminates the middlemen (Sierra and the store), which should reduce the price for people who buy over STEAM.
Once you have Steam set up, and have the important files cached, there are few advantages to NOT using Steam. The only serious downside to Steam is that on slow connections like dialup it takes a while to build up the initial cache before it's at the point where you don't need to download (much) when you want to play. I do believe that you can manually copy over non-steam files in order to speed up the cacheing process, but I'm not certain of that.
No, that's not how I understand the post. In a few weeks from now, WON is going down and the whole HL community will be forcibly moved to Steam.
And whoever registers a CD-Key first gets to keep it permanently and exclusively.
Well, only YOU should have your CD key, so that's not a problem, now is it?
Pay for play service?
Streaming games?
Huh? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
... Because VALVe have such a good track record in this respect...
HLDS 3/4.1.1.1, Steam 2.0 beta, DoD V1.0 retail....
Release code all greatly optimised over the beta code... no wait....
joev.
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I think the way it will be is that Valve will turn off the WON authentication servers and turn on the Steam authentication servers. The latest client patch (or the next big one, I'm not sure) will update your machine so instead of it going like this:
CDkey -> WON server -> WONID -> game server
it will go like this:
CDkey -> STEAM server -> STEAMID -> game server
The client shouldn't even notice that anything has changed. And if someone else has your CD key you will only know it if you play at the same time as them... just like WON.
IF, this means lower prices, that is kewl. Although the main advantage is quick patches.
No, the CD-Key will be used to create a Steam account which you permanently keep.
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Neither a WonID nor a SteamID is algorithmically derivable from a CD-Key. They're just unique database IDs. SteamIDs will be generated sequentially IIRC, so the sooner you register, the lower and shorter it'll be.
Great system. I can't wait until NS is on Steam. You all should be excited. This is a significant improvement to online gaming through Half-Life. Just thinking of NS on Steam makes me drool. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Given that the WONID DB will cease to exist, you'll have a pretty tough time playing mods unless you re-register with STEAM.
I've not had the best experience with STEAM either, but hey, look at it this way:
Even if you never play HL or a mod of it again, when was the last time that you got several <b>hundred</b> hours of entertainment for between £10-30?
If you need to complain about STEAM, the place to do it was on the STEAM beta discussion boards.
Complaining about STEAM now is like moaning about Bush getting elected. You should have voted and agitated BEFORE he got into office.
Anyway, STEAM can only get better. If it doesn't, HL2 will get *****-slapped by Quake IV (go KEN20BANKS!!!) and Doom III. And those guys all have mortgages to pay, so I doubt that will happen.
it also has a new GUI (something that hl has needed for a long long LONG time) which has some niffty features like "Friends" which is basicly like an ingame messanger
PLEASE NOTE: i have not downloaded this, and am only telling stuff i know from what i have read...
EDIT: and yes, i *think* you MUST use it to play any HL game, it comes with the next HL patch