Mini-map
P-Khan
Join Date: 2003-05-27 Member: 16776Members
Join Date: 2003-05-27 Member: 16776Members
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Case in point, we went ahead and made a run for cargo hive where the (now) double node was. I noticed on my minimap that there was supposedly a skulk in the same vicinity as the node you first encounter on your way from the original marine start. Looked, didn't see anything, then, "ah-ha!", he's on the ceiling. I look up, and nail him. Had he not showed up on the minimap, none of us would have even known he was there.
Needless to say, have mixed feelings about that.
Works with aliens too.
Those silly hiding marines.
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<i>How would they go about fixing it though?</i>
It may not be entirely impossible. It probably requires a simple (client-side?) filter, based on the FOV of the player. Won't work on marines that are hiding in the dark or behind a crate, but will work for those that managed to sneak up behind you.
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It's going to be fixed in the next client patch. (does line of sight check)
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A line-of-sight check isn't going to help in those instances where you have line-of-sight, but don't actually see them due to various circumstances until you check the minimap.
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a line of sight check is why we have the problem; that's what it's doing now. it means you can see enemies hiding in the dark, behind you and above you etc. field of view check to check if they are in front of you isn't good enough either coz you'll still see them on the minimap if they are in the dark or hiding behind chambers or marine buildings or if they are camouflaged nicely with the scenery. an alien just being on your screen shouldn't necessarily mean you notice them.
Max
I for one can find it hard to orietate (sp) myself and the map with my surroundings, I would appreciate an option to have it rotate with my direction so that the arrow representing me is always pointing upwards.
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Well, while we are at it, why not make all aliens shine in blinking neon-red colors... that would increase the value of sensory as well!
Frankly, showing enemies on the mini-map must go. It removes all possibilities of hiding for non-cloaked aliens.. why did we even have dark corners on the maps?
besides this argument is the fact that it is silly and not believable and will make people play in a way which is totally un-useful in other games or real-life. and also it changes the atmosphere of the game because now there is no reason to be looking around trying to find aliens that you should be able to see. you shouldn't even bother to look around with cloaking coz it's so invisible.
i can't believe people are defending the minimap. just because the marines have a disadvantage doesn't mean even some bug that gives them an advantage should stay. it doesn't matter if this is a bug or not, but i think it is some kind of mistake. if the marines have a disadvantage then some other way to give them an advantage should be found which doesn't make the game boring.
i don't feel like explaining my view anymore so if i don't answer anymore about this it doesn't mean you win.
Same applies to aliens,so they can't see marines in the mini-map. Only structures
Because if you only apply it to Marines then it encourages solo-lerking,because they have one of the most effective ranged alien attacks in the game....insta-hit spikes
I really hate the map destroying my hiding locaton, kills the feeling of NS
EDIT : But of course it's Flayra's call,not mine.Afer all he is using his free-time to make this great mod,but I really think you should reconsider about what mappers do for hiding spots, or it essentially becomes wasted effort....unless of course people start using cloaking..
Anyway, I'm glad people (the original poster) like the mini-map.
Max
what you are saying doesn't make sense. first of all the line of sight is why we have the problem in the first place. that's the way it is working now because a line of sight check does not take into account direction. second of all updating every second doesn't mean you have to look at the enemy for half a second before they show up. it means that you just have to be in LOS at the same moment as the minimap gets updated. that means it can range from being instant to taking a second before the alien shows up.
btw i'd like to add another problem with the minimap. the position and direction displayed on the minimap is not really the clientside versions. well the position is the clientside version but the direction is the serverside version. it's similar to the bug with the flashlight except it's vice-versa.
Anyway, I'm glad people (the original poster) like the mini-map.
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YES!!
Now we donce. (BTW I liked the minimap,but the bug caused me lots of frustation)