Beware Of Adelphia "high Speed" Net Access

darwins_little_helperdarwins_little_helper Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18396Members
Just moved from San Diego,CA to Encinitas, CA (about a 6 mile move) and switched from RoadRunner (Time Warner) to Adelphia. Never heard of Adelphia, but it's all you can get where I am in Encinitas. I went from having access to at least 20 U.S. servers with sub-100 pings to a big fat zero! The fastest pings I can get now are from frickin' EUROPE!! It's funny playing on Swedish servers with the accents and all ("yaaaaah...goonta boonta vooder..."), but come on.....where's the Americans?!? I've also noticed a severe slowing when loading up some websites, but not others. I'm also having a helluva time finding decent ping BF 1942 servers. This is lame.....if a company is gonna offer broadband cable at a competetive price ($40-$50 a month), then they should be competitive with bandwidth. I wonder if this happens a lot....and if there's a site out there that recommends DSL over cable in certain areas/companies. My old favorite servers are now in the 1500 (that's 1.5 seconds) range. ARGHHH!!!!!! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->

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  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Don't get me started on MSN. Worst. DSL. Evar.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I live in North Hollywood CA. I have Adelphia, but I don't notice anything wrong with the site. I only have 100 More Ping than others in every damn game.
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    DSL is slightly worse than cable because it is just a compression technquie (sp).

    But yeah bad companies suck, someone should set a website up with a list of the really bad ones.
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    It all varies from area to area, and also the quality of service you opt for.

    My office uses a 5 megabit DSL line for outgoing connections. And yes, I've actually clocked it - I can pull data in at about 500 kilobytes per second in the middle of the day, when I'm not even the only one using the connection. From work I can hit about twenty NS servers with pings under 25.

    The other side of the coin is getting cheap DSL over old cruddy phone lines when you're too far from the central office. This is what I used to have at home, and I'd tend to get pings around 120 with 60 kb/sec download speeds. Not all DSL is created equal.
  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    I'm on Comcast cable. In my old apartment, the connection was god-awful. In my new apartment, I get a steady 2.0-2.8 mbit connection.

    The apartments are across the street from each other. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--[p4]Samwise+Aug 15 2003, 06:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([p4]Samwise @ Aug 15 2003, 06:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It all varies from area to area, and also the quality of service you opt for.

    My office uses a 5 megabit DSL line for outgoing connections. And yes, I've actually clocked it - I can pull data in at about 500 kilobytes per second in the middle of the day, when I'm not even the only one using the connection. From work I can hit about twenty NS servers with pings under 25.

    The other side of the coin is getting cheap DSL over old cruddy phone lines when you're too far from the central office. This is what I used to have at home, and I'd tend to get pings around 120 with 60 kb/sec download speeds. Not all DSL is created equal. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not even that. The modem MSN sends you is external, and it's the crappiest piece of hardware i've ever seen. Traversing my 4-foot cable to the modem gives me a *minimum* ping of 60 ms. What a piece of crap.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    You wanna talk about bad connections? My Verison DSL is the friggin slowest connection ever to be had by someone paying for a so called "broadband" connection. I can only get 8kbps up, 70 down is my max, but it usually hovers somewhere around 35-40. I get ok pings, although it's not like it makes a difference since my comp simulates at least a second's worth of lag at nearly all times, but I've had other people come over my house who have cable and other brands of DSL and have told me that my connection sucks.
  • p4Samwisep4Samwise Join Date: 2002-12-15 Member: 10831Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Wheeee+Aug 15 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Aug 15 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Traversing my 4-foot cable to the modem gives me a *minimum* ping of 60 ms. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    An electrical signal should take only a few billionths (literally) of a second to travel 4 feet. Unless you have a REALLY bad cable (I'm picturing a plank of wood with electrical connectors at either end).
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    Adelphia cable on the east coast is quite different..

    I get 500kbyte/sec down and 12kbyte/sec up and it's only gone down once in the past two years.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 15 2003, 06:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 15 2003, 06:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You wanna talk about bad connections? My Verison DSL is the friggin slowest connection ever to be had by someone paying for a so called "broadband" connection. I can only get 8kbps up, 70 down is my max, but it usually hovers somewhere around 35-40. I get ok pings, although it's not like it makes a difference since my comp simulates at least a second's worth of lag at nearly all times, but I've had other people come over my house who have cable and other brands of DSL and have told me that my connection sucks. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    MSN's basic DSL is 256/256, which equates to theoretically 32K/32K (normally i top out at 25/25). Not only that, it randomly shuts off and takes 2 minutes to restore services (by resetting the modem), it lags, it has a hardware NAT firewall that cannot be turned off because MSN won't tell us how to administer the modem (actually it technically can't be administered until we get MSN to send a tech over to our house and flash the ROM on the modem), which causes all sorts of pain, it costs as much (45 a month I think) as a 1.5/128 DSL service in most other parts of the country, the modem itself is a piece of crap. Minimum ping anywhere is 100+. FFS it's like dialup, except slightly faster

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    An electrical signal should take only a few billionths (literally) of a second to travel 4 feet. Unless you have a REALLY bad cable (I'm picturing a plank of wood with electrical connectors at either end<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Hence my assertion that my modem completely blows chunks, and MSN is the worst. DSL. Evar.

    *edit* FYI electrical signal travels at ~1 foot per nanosecond on copper semiconductor wire. It is dependent on the width of the wires, but the speed averages at about that.
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--AllUrHiveRBelong2Us+Aug 15 2003, 06:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (AllUrHiveRBelong2Us @ Aug 15 2003, 06:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You wanna talk about bad connections? My Verison DSL is the friggin slowest connection ever to be had by someone paying for a so called "broadband" connection. I can only get 8kbps up, 70 down is my max, but it usually hovers somewhere around 35-40. I get ok pings, although it's not like it makes a difference since my comp simulates at least a second's worth of lag at nearly all times, but I've had other people come over my house who have cable and other brands of DSL and have told me that my connection sucks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I used to have Verizon DSL, exact same problems. The worst part was when for an entire WEEK it was resetting itself, dropping my connection, lagging like mad, I called them up and they said there was a worm infecting their routers and it wouldnt be fixed for a WEEK. More like a week and a half. It was a nightmare, thank GOD they put in cable in my area soon after. I was also getting below 56k speeds <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

    On Road Runner cable it says my DL bandwidth is 2Mbps (according to dslreports.com), but my download cap seems to be 300kps.
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    The two best local providers here are MTS for their DSL service, and shaw for cable. I had DSL before and it was GREAT, I had a consistant low ping to tons of HL servers. but after a so called "upgrade" the service went to total crap.

    I switched to cable, the bandwidth is about the same but my pings are always in the 100-120 range now
  • DubbilexDubbilex Chump Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9799Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--[p4]Samwise+Aug 15 2003, 06:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([p4]Samwise @ Aug 15 2003, 06:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--Wheeee+Aug 15 2003, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Aug 15 2003, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Traversing my 4-foot cable to the modem gives me a *minimum* ping of 60 ms. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    An electrical signal should take only a few billionths (literally) of a second to travel 4 feet. Unless you have a REALLY bad cable (I'm picturing a plank of wood with electrical connectors at either end). <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    HA!



    Why should they have competitive bandwidth if they have no competitors <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> It's Burger wars man...<i>burger wars</i>!
  • LucidRealityLucidReality Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13496Members
    edited August 2003
    Is it wrong, that i have a 768kb down , and 128 up, and all i actually see of that is 20kb down?

    I have a cable modem, and i get AVERAGE, it usually lower, but average of 20 kbps on any download. Sometimes i get a flux to 30, or a flux to 15, but usually its 20.... Is this horribly horribly wrong?


    And im paying 50$ for it, i think i should be complaining liek crazy.... how bout you guys?


    go to
    <a href='http://www.charter.com' target='_blank'>My service</a> Go to charter pipeline. I have the package number 2. the middle one..... tell me that 20 kbps is that.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    depends on who you download from, and the traffic in your area. But no, it shouldn't be that low.
  • GrimmGrimm Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15448Members
    Boy oh boy, reading all these posts makes me glad I've got Cox cable internet...

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • voogruvoogru Naturally Modified (ex. NS programmer) Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1827Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    I love my DSL, even though I dont like the company that much (Bellsouth, Support is a bunch of nub caeks), I live literally in the middle of nowhere and I get 1.2Mbps/220Kbps speeds. The closest stop light is aorund 4-5 miles.
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    edited August 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Is it wrong, that i have a 768kb down , and 128 up, and all i actually see of that is 20kb down?

    I have a cable modem, and i get AVERAGE, it usually lower, but average of 20 kbps on any download. Sometimes i get a flux to 30, or a flux to 15, but usually its 20.... Is this horribly horribly wrong?


    And im paying 50$ for it, i think i should be complaining liek crazy.... how bout you guys?


    go to
    My service Go to charter pipeline. I have the package number 2. the middle one..... tell me that 20 kbps is that. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Im on my cousins computer right now, and he has charter. He has the first plan and he downloads at about 80kb thru 120 and pings in ns at like 20 or 60..... I wub charter!
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Charter? Sounds fun. Might as well look into it.
  • UltimaGeckoUltimaGecko hates endnotes Join Date: 2003-05-14 Member: 16320Members
    I went to that dslreports.com and I found out I get around 1800 kilobits/second down and and around 360 kilobits/second up. Pretty nice, so it says at least. Hooray, Roadrunner, I guess.

    Now the only problem is that router password 'misplacement' problem.



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    ...yay?
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I KNOW this is gonna surprise you guys, but...

    AOL I think is in the top 5 of best DSL ever. I swear, its damned quick, even with their software having to run just to be online. It goes into semi-hibernation when minimized for more than 30 seconds. Its REALLY fast...I like it. But I still want 700kb d/l speeds with Speakeasy, best ever.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Here's my Connect. Test on DSLReports.com
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Your download speed : 1947681 bps, or 1947 kbps.
    A 237.7 KB/sec transfer rate.
    Your upload speed : 183528 bps, or 183 kbps.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Im downloading some stuff atm so its a bit slower, last time I ran the speed test I was over the 2mb barrier. Using Road Runner, yay.
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