Ns_origin And Onos

Big_Chief_Brown_Bottom

<div class="IPBDescription">no where to go</div> i must say that ns_origin is the worst map to come with the patch. the intricate tunnel networks and hubs are nice, but it leaves onos with no way to go alot of the times. even with the new map system, i find myself getting into "dead ends" a lot of the time simply because i cannot fit into a short hall. a spot next to the furnace comes to mind.

and then there are the little elevators that insta-kill you now if you're caught under it. if you're in a major firefight and you accidentally back up into an elevator shaft as it goes down and it squishes you, 100 res down the drain.

i understand that there was another post about this earlier, but it turned into an 8 page spam about gorges and bilebomb. i want an unadulterated thread about origin and onos manueverability. its just impossible to get anywhere on that map without taking massive detours that often bring you deep into enemy territory and through turret farms. if a hive is under attack you can forget about getting there on time. and when you're trapped in a "dead end" cause of a small hall then you're pretty much dead until the marines hunt you down. plz fix. i'm sure many others will agree with me. if you're going to be this restrictive about onos movement then either (a) fades need to be buffed or (b) partially limit movement of heavy armors

Arcticwind

there are lotsa places onos can't reallie go in the maps... onos is simply too huge. in cage i have to keep ducking to move around

Big_Chief_Brown_Bottom

ducking to move around is fine. but when you can't even fit into a hall way EVEN if you duck, that's a bit excessive. you're already slowed to a crawl when you duck and the onos is like gorge speed when running. the problem is following the mini-map HOPING to get to your destination then finding out that you have to backtrack halfway across the map to take an alternate route. its ridiculous. if you havent' been oni on a big server on this map then plz reserve judgement until you do

CutterJoe

I have to say that origin is quite confining for an onos. Heres my suggestion:
Gestate into a skulk, run over there, and gestate into an onos ha ha ha.
But yea the halls in some areas of that map could use a bit of an enlargment.

Ollj

A crounching onos has marine size.
Marines can reach everything walking.
Its the gorges fault not building movements when they have that left hive.

Killing elevators are evil.
Hives having only 1,5 walking-size path to them make this map evil in endgame when you have no movements, but easyer in early and mid game for skulk ambushes and gorge defense.
I agree with origin having the most complex vents and z-axis changings, making it as complicate as bast. Its a highly strategical map. but not unfair.
Bast haters will hate origin too, cus they dont like complicate maps.

But i like origin, its a GREAT map, and I am not just saying this for being in its credits <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

Spazmatic

It'll just take time... Probably lots of time, lots of swearing, and lots and lots of dead oni. I've died twice already from the mini-hallways all over the place (though, that's not saying much, since I manage to get stuck in the same room in mineshaft over and over again!) Over time, it'll become habitual, though, and people will shout "nub!" whenever someone complains. Not that that's neccessarily a good thing.

Haze

You want adult rated? I'll give you adult rated.

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But he said unadult rated.

Gliss

<!--QuoteBegin--#Ha.Ze-+Aug 2 2003, 09:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (#Ha.Ze- @ Aug 2 2003, 09:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You want adult rated? I'll give you adult rated.

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But he said unadult rated. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What does that have to do with <i>anything</i>? Anything at all?

CplDavis

<!--QuoteBegin--Arcticwind+Aug 2 2003, 10:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Arcticwind @ Aug 2 2003, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> there are lotsa places onos can't reallie go in the maps... onos is simply too huge. in cage i have to keep ducking to move around <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
well jeez all you people, maybe if you wernt so darn busy making your fat oni bodies even more fatter by eating me every 5 seconds you could fit into those tight places you speak of. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


Here is a pic from NS veil. HA! those Fat body Oni thought they were gonna get dessert after they anhilated everything else but ha I showed them. I was safe from the Oni herd... until one went lerk. >_<


I put in a crappy light effect real quick b/c pic was very dark.