<!--QuoteBegin--Killymagee+Aug 2 2003, 10:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Killymagee @ Aug 2 2003, 10:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I would if i could, what is that bad boy? FN-FAL err something (not good with gun names) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm.... look at the topic. It says HK33EA2
actually that is a h&k g33 a2, used by the british military during the late 70's, its lighter than its older brother the a1, otherwise known as the SLR.
My Dad was in the Royal navy as a marksman <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--[DRS]Lt.S.Owen+Aug 2 2003, 11:33 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([DRS]Lt.S.Owen @ Aug 2 2003, 11:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> actually that is a h&k g33 a2, used by the british military during the late 70's, its lighter than its older brother the a1, otherwise known as the SLR.
My Dad was in the Royal navy as a marksman <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Eh, there's no such gun as h&k g33 a2.... The first version is called HK33E and it's from year 1989.
Oh, and if i remember correctly, SLR is a sporting rifle.
SLR is the other name for the g33a1. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> believe me, it was used in the falklands.
<!--QuoteBegin--[DRS]Lt.S.Owen+Aug 2 2003, 11:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([DRS]Lt.S.Owen @ Aug 2 2003, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> SLR is the other name for the g33a1. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> believe me, it was used in the falklands. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok, slr might be another name of g33a1, but there's no such thing as g33a1. g3a1(wich is just called g3 btw) was used on 70's tho.
<!--QuoteBegin--[DRS]Lt.S.Owen+Aug 2 2003, 11:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([DRS]Lt.S.Owen @ Aug 2 2003, 11:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> incase u dont believe me
<a href='http://www.black-ops.wz.cz/clanky/zbrane/667.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.black-ops.wz.cz/clanky/zbrane/667.htm</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> the site said "HK 33A2 " <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> not g33a1. And that's just missing the E. Go check H&K official site for more info.
And i was wrong with the year... in 1989 the hk33's were imported to USA(Designated HK93 and only semi-auto)
<!--QuoteBegin--Buzzcut+Aug 2 2003, 09:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Buzzcut @ Aug 2 2003, 09:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> WTH HOW COULD U CALL NOT UNDEATILED <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> he didnt.......
Uh oh you made a double negative :X <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Aug 3 2003, 04:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Aug 3 2003, 04:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually, it's a very poor, and undetailed model of a H&K G3A3.... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm..... Yeah. I believe you sir. What's undetailed about it? And if you say that's g3a3, then you know nothing about guns.
WOW. you <i>NUBBED-OUT</i>, *(&^$@(@&#$ piece of rat-
oh.. flames. yes.
uh, here's INFO instead!
now, i'm not a 33 expert, but i know some sh*ts about g3s.
the G3 was designed by Mauser at the end of WW2. CETME of Spain continued the design, and then Holland manufactured the initial models, and finally the task of perfecting the gun was given to H&K. The G3 is chambered <i><b><u>QUITE OBVIOUSLY</u></b></i> for <b>7.62 x 51mm NATO AMMUNITION</b>.
the HK33E is a <b>G3 chambered, barreled, etc</b> for <b>5.56 x 45mm Nato or M193 AMMUNITION</b>. The conversion goes so far as an HK33KE and an HK33SG1 being designed, obvious couterparts to the 7.62 versions.
Who cares what kind of gun it is? He didn't ask that he asked for a mesher. Damn you people. All these stupid pointless posts are getting to me. EDIT://How about instead of flames we acctually do something um...usefull?
it's actually a HK33a2 and some parts are a little inaccurate, like for instance the charging handle, magazin and other minor parts
i've modeled a hk33 too once, if anyone wants to see it: <a href='http://www.globalwarfare.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1920' target='_blank'>http://www.globalwarfare.net/phpBB2/viewto...opic.php?t=1920</a>
and an attached refpic that hopefully will help you fixing those parts:
<!--QuoteBegin--nthngnsd+Aug 3 2003, 02:46 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nthngnsd @ Aug 3 2003, 02:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> it's actually a HK33a2 and some parts are a little inaccurate, like for instance the charging handle, magazin and other minor parts
i've modeled a hk33 too once, if anyone wants to see it: <a href='http://www.globalwarfare.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1920' target='_blank'>http://www.globalwarfare.net/phpBB2/viewto...opic.php?t=1920</a>
and an attached refpic that hopefully will help you fixing those parts: <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm... There are different types of magazines... But yeah, it's not done, the front grip needs to be redone and the other side is missing all the details etc. Thanks for that pic. It's just what i need. My other refs were so small that i used some mp5 pics(Stock and charging handle D:).
Yours looks nice too, Darkkiz. Fix up the small inaccuracies then learn how to skinmesh. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Aug 3 2003, 12:44 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Aug 3 2003, 12:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Tha G3A3 (with plain plastic handgrips), HK33A2, and G41, all H&K Assault Rifles, bear practically tha SAME design....
tha only real difference is that tha G3 is chambered for 7.62mm NATO (.308 win) ammunition, and tha HK33A2, and G41 are chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO
i actually know quite a bit about guns....
there are a few other minor differences, but i just woke up, and i don't feel like typing it all out right now..maybe after i get home from work.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you should have one post subtracted from your record..
i just SAID that.
let me reiterate: the magazine is a 5.56 bearing box, and not the 7.62 alternative. the mag well is clearly <i>that much smaller</i>. i'm sorry, sir, but you called it a g3, and there's no reconciling that.
tha only real difference is that tha G3 is chambered for 7.62mm NATO (.308 win) ammunition, and tha HK33A2, and G41 are chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO
i actually know quite a bit about guns....
there are a few other minor differences, but i just woke up, and i don't feel like typing it all out right now..maybe after i get home from work.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> you should have one post subtracted from your record..
i just SAID that.
let me reiterate: the magazine is a 5.56 bearing box, and not the 7.62 alternative. the mag well is clearly <i>that much smaller</i>. i'm sorry, sir, but you called it a g3, and there's no reconciling that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah, i called it a G3, because it looks like a goddamned G3......
and tha mag well size only really matters in real life, because on a computer screen, minor details like that are VERY hard to notice....expecially when tha gun being repicated looks exactly like 2 other guns made by tha same company...
<!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Aug 2 2003, 08:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Aug 2 2003, 08:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually, it's a very poor, and undetailed model of a H&K G3A3.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You do realise that to preserve framerates and lower the polycount that unecessary detail is usually skinned as opposed to being modelled. However, darkkiz, as usual, has done a fantastic job getting the detail modelled too.
<!--QuoteBegin--Acid-Snake+Aug 2 2003, 08:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Acid-Snake @ Aug 2 2003, 08:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Actually, it's a very poor, and undetailed model of a H&K G3A3.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Can you do better ? i think its great .
Yours looks nice too, Darkkiz. Fix up the small inaccuracies then learn how to skinmesh. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Most of us aren't geniuses like you who's first language is English. If you could be the guy who provides tutorials for every possible language? That would make the learning process much much easier <b>SIR</b>.
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Umm.... look at the topic. It says HK33EA2
My Dad was in the Royal navy as a marksman <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
My Dad was in the Royal navy as a marksman <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Eh, there's no such gun as h&k g33 a2.... The first version is called HK33E and it's from year 1989.
Oh, and if i remember correctly, SLR is a sporting rifle.
<a href='http://www.black-ops.wz.cz/clanky/zbrane/667.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.black-ops.wz.cz/clanky/zbrane/667.htm</a>
Ok, slr might be another name of g33a1, but there's no such thing as g33a1. g3a1(wich is just called g3 btw) was used on 70's tho.
<a href='http://www.black-ops.wz.cz/clanky/zbrane/667.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.black-ops.wz.cz/clanky/zbrane/667.htm</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
the site said "HK 33A2 " <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> not g33a1. And that's just missing the E. Go check H&K official site for more info.
And i was wrong with the year... in 1989 the hk33's were imported to USA(Designated HK93 and only semi-auto)
he didnt.......
Uh oh you made a double negative :X <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Umm..... Yeah. I believe you sir. What's undetailed about it? And if you say that's g3a3, then you know nothing about guns.
oh.. flames. yes.
uh, here's INFO instead!
now, i'm not a 33 expert, but i know some sh*ts about g3s.
the G3 was designed by Mauser at the end of WW2. CETME of Spain continued the design, and then Holland manufactured the initial models, and finally the task of perfecting the gun was given to H&K. The G3 is chambered <i><b><u>QUITE OBVIOUSLY</u></b></i> for <b>7.62 x 51mm NATO AMMUNITION</b>.
the HK33E is a <b>G3 chambered, barreled, etc</b> for <b>5.56 x 45mm Nato or M193 AMMUNITION</b>. The conversion goes so far as an HK33KE and an HK33SG1 being designed, obvious couterparts to the 7.62 versions.
dum de dum...
EDIT://How about instead of flames we acctually do something um...usefull?
i've modeled a hk33 too once, if anyone wants to see it: <a href='http://www.globalwarfare.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1920' target='_blank'>http://www.globalwarfare.net/phpBB2/viewto...opic.php?t=1920</a>
and an attached refpic that hopefully will help you fixing those parts:
i've modeled a hk33 too once, if anyone wants to see it: <a href='http://www.globalwarfare.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1920' target='_blank'>http://www.globalwarfare.net/phpBB2/viewto...opic.php?t=1920</a>
and an attached refpic that hopefully will help you fixing those parts: <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Umm... There are different types of magazines... But yeah, it's not done, the front grip needs to be redone and the other side is missing all the details etc. Thanks for that pic. It's just what i need. My other refs were so small that i used some mp5 pics(Stock and charging handle D:).
And btw your model rox!
Yours looks nice too, Darkkiz. Fix up the small inaccuracies then learn how to skinmesh. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
tha only real difference is that tha G3 is chambered for 7.62mm NATO (.308 win) ammunition, and tha HK33A2, and G41 are chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO
i actually know quite a bit about guns....
there are a few other minor differences, but i just woke up, and i don't feel like typing it all out right now..maybe after i get home from work..
tha only real difference is that tha G3 is chambered for 7.62mm NATO (.308 win) ammunition, and tha HK33A2, and G41 are chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO
i actually know quite a bit about guns....
there are a few other minor differences, but i just woke up, and i don't feel like typing it all out right now..maybe after i get home from work.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you should have one post subtracted from your record..
i just SAID that.
let me reiterate: the magazine is a 5.56 bearing box, and not the 7.62 alternative. the mag well is clearly <i>that much smaller</i>. i'm sorry, sir, but you called it a g3, and there's no reconciling that.
tha only real difference is that tha G3 is chambered for 7.62mm NATO (.308 win) ammunition, and tha HK33A2, and G41 are chambered for 5.56x45mm NATO
i actually know quite a bit about guns....
there are a few other minor differences, but i just woke up, and i don't feel like typing it all out right now..maybe after i get home from work.. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you should have one post subtracted from your record..
i just SAID that.
let me reiterate: the magazine is a 5.56 bearing box, and not the 7.62 alternative. the mag well is clearly <i>that much smaller</i>. i'm sorry, sir, but you called it a g3, and there's no reconciling that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, i called it a G3, because it looks like a goddamned G3......
and tha mag well size only really matters in real life, because on a computer screen, minor details like that are VERY hard to notice....expecially when tha gun being repicated looks exactly like 2 other guns made by tha same company...
You do realise that to preserve framerates and lower the polycount that unecessary detail is usually skinned as opposed to being modelled. However, darkkiz, as usual, has done a fantastic job getting the detail modelled too.
Can you do better ? i think its great .
Yours looks nice too, Darkkiz. Fix up the small inaccuracies then learn how to skinmesh. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Most of us aren't geniuses like you who's first language is English. If you could be the guy who provides tutorials for every possible language? That would make the learning process much much easier <b>SIR</b>.