2.0v mother/noname hive

the_draft · July 2003

You're right, it is up to the mapper. I just hope he makes the right decision. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

Insane · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the draft @ Jul 9 2003, 09:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> This isn't about confusing the two places. It's about history. The players of NS have dubbed it "NoName" hive. It's a cool name, and it's even cooler that it came from the community. Regardless of what it's official name becomes, it'll always be NoName to me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
If you want history, then what about the old pre-1.0 PT jokes about Mother Hive?

ZeroByte · July 2003

You know... if you run a server and you're so insistent on calling it NoName, you could use the power of RipEnt for evilness and take out the hive name... basically, reverse what they did to the .bsp with RipEnt again. Once you put the bsp in your server, people playing on your server will be able to call it noname again, without having to download anything else. This is cause the entities are serverside, so the server will just tell the clients that there isn't any name for the hive <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

SuperBOB · July 2003

Swap Mother with Subspace so mother interface makes more sense?

locallyunscene · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Swap Mother with Subspace so mother interface makes more sense? </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Hey stop it! you're thinking logically again. None of that here! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

kiwi_3 · July 2003

they should just changed the hive name to noname (make the name appear on the hive list)

Firedrake · July 2003

Uh, I guess I'm not altogether "in tune" with the community (or Flayra, for that matter ;), but I don't altogether understand what's so great about No Name. Mother just seems so much more, I don't know, classic; it has a better ring to my ear, and I sure as Hell know I'd love to be a Kharaa calling my hive Mother. ;) Anyway, I guess if you really must insist on having the creator change the name, I would suggest Nameless as a better alternative to No Name; it just rolls off the tongue so much better. ^____^

ThE_HeRo · July 2003

I always liked nameless better too, but you go with the crowd... But i'll prolly call it whatever they name it. Just because its there.

KhazModan · July 2003

Yeh NN and its other various names Unamed one of the other names shoudl stay!!! whats so motherly about it anyway... does it cook bake and clean our washing for us???

Firedrake · July 2003

It pops us Kharaa out screaming bloody murder and tearing up Marine hides. What else would a good mother do? I mean, why should the hive do all the cleaning? Gorges are always running around, throwing their toy chambers around and webbing up the antique furniture; I think Mother should be given a break and not have to look exasperated and say "This place is a mess."

KhazModan · July 2003

very good... outshone my bad joke by a longshot

Asraniel · July 2003

i want a poll where we can vote that they change the name to "Noname" that would be cool, and a old insider joke for all the new newbies.... :-)

Chips1 · July 2003

The name of "noname" does certainly have a nice ring of absurdness <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>
In addition, all those insiders can be safe in the knowledge that they are better than the average player by knowing it is supposed to be called mother (as Im sure many PTs are ;p)

SuB · July 2003

Yeh, I gotta say I'd prefer it got renamed Noname... if I'd created the map I'd love to call it something that's so widely recognised and created by the NS community because we play it and have lots of fun <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Speed_2_Dave · July 2003

what's so wrong with Mother Hive? Especially since the map is a quasi-rip-off/homage to the Alien series. Why not? It's the mother computer, now the Mother Hive, the irony! Can't you guys see the irony?

But yeah, in the end I don't really care what the hive is called, as long as we still have NS to play.

MrMojo · July 2003

People are used to noname. It's different than any other hive names, and easy to remember.

Maus · July 2003

<b>We</b> might be used to it, but the influx of new players NS will get with 2.0 will be just as confused ay its lack of a name as we all were at first.

MrMojo · July 2003

[MrMojo] they should distinguish it because it's pretty hard to find as a blimp if you dont really know the map

Majin · July 2003

I like Nacy, its one of the best maps, No Name or Nameless Hive is as well know on that map due to its name as any hive in the game.
I must admit It will be nice to have a blip on the screen telling me that Mother hive is under attack!

echs · July 2003

Unnamed Hive is also another well used name for it...

UGLAndrew · July 2003

In 2.0v it's just called "Mother".

Comprox · July 2003

I find it funny rhat everyone is like "omg, its ALWAYS been called noname hive!" ... hehehe (read the rest of this post to udnerstand)

Trojan2 · July 2003

while I dimly rember "mother" I really have grown to Love "noname" Please, its bad enough your taking me beloved little babblers, but the least you could do it keep noname in the game

Jojoshua · July 2003

Yea, I noticed this last night....really weird. I'll always call it no name though.

Wolv · July 2003

To clear up the question of how they changed it:
Although the info_location entity is already in place, it doesn't contain the field required to name it. Easy to fix with ripent, if you also add it to the titles.txt (where Mother Hive also is omitted in the current version).

Since titles.txt probably is read client side (try changing it yourself if you'd like to be sure) server operators can't change the name of the hive room to anything else then what will be in titles.txt or to a blank value (as it is now).

Haze · July 2003

All the old play testers when they are in their 90s could tell their grand children that are playing <i>Natural-Selections: The Ressurection</i> that noname used to be mother. Dont you want to say that?

radforChrist · July 2003

As for the argument about keeping thehive name as "noname" b/c everyone was used to it, early forumites couldn't imagine not calling skulks "Bob"s, but it happened. Give it time, you'll be using the new names with no problems.

P.S. I don't even remember wha tthe other alien names were, blinky, pudgy, ... oh well.

.tim.

GhostlyPea · July 2003

Im British..and yeah we allways called it Unnamed...it will prob still stick =)

Silver_Fox · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ Jul 10 2003, 03:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I find it funny rhat everyone is like "omg, its ALWAYS been called noname hive!" ... hehehe (read the rest of this post to udnerstand)  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
lol, no kidding

Insane · July 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Comprox @ Jul 10 2003, 06:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I find it funny rhat everyone is like "omg, its ALWAYS been called noname hive!" ... hehehe (read the rest of this post to udnerstand) </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Sigh... you're absolutely right. Heh.

2.0v mother/noname hive

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