Hardcore Custom Map Server

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  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    Well, you made a bunch of mistakes. I was definitly wrong when I said your English is quite good <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    No I wont tell you what's wrong. I want to let you die dumb. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    TELL ME!!! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
    or I will <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> your <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> **** to pieces as <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> food!!!
  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    okok... what about 'two provider'? Do you find the mistake?
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    I went mad with this freewebspace s h i t !!!
    okok... *calms himself* the custommaps downloads are now linked tdirect to the download locations of the creators I found on hivemind and mayberry games. the missing maps can be downloaded from my personal hp cause lycos is ****! whats the big deal downloading files form a hp if the files are located in the same directory? why should that be not allowed? damn it... update the server today... and the cycle.
    happy <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> !
  • NayNay Join Date: 2002-06-09 Member: 741Members
    gravity do you have a website which is based on your ns server ( map downloads etc )?
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    edited July 2003
    I just altered the mapcycle on our server to atract more public player. the custom maps are now stored in a seperate cycle andyou now can vote for it. we will try to get the server full the most time but its hard. I think our PR has to be improved <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    mapdownloads:
    <a href='http://www.ngg-central.de.vu' target='_blank'>NGG-Central</a>
    (most of them the authors links, just redirected to avoid long search on the custommap hp?s)
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> could you play ns_napo on your server? because i realy dont know why no one plays it, its realy good i think, and its fun to play, its even balanced, and it looks good. of course the new version will be much better :-) but i will only release it when 2.0 is out :-)
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    asraniel I tested ns_napo twice: first when you released the beta. this was a... lets say a weird map. the last days I tested the last released version but something told me not to add this map. there were severall things "hurting" my eyes <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> lets see the new version. but this answer isnt to important because the server lacks on players! *WAAAAAAAAAH* maybe if I add napo... *thinks about it* but keep in mind that this is a german server. foreign countries will also be welcome but the communication will be kinda difficult <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • XzilenXzilen Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11642Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Asraniel+Jul 4 2003, 12:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Asraniel @ Jul 4 2003, 12:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> could you play ns_napo on your server? because i realy dont know why no one plays it, its realy good i think, and its fun to play, its even balanced, and it looks good. of course the new version will be much better :-) but i will only release it when 2.0 is out :-) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well you should get more people to play at my server where it can be voted for <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    ok guys I reached a point where I have to SHOUT OUT THAT YOU BETTER JOIN THIS SERVER (-=NGG=- Templers´home LOW pings only PW:nostromo|62.93.201.6:27300) CAUSE PAYING FOR AN NEARLY EMPTY SERVER SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ok at least you guys from germany. now I start to understand why there are no custommapserver out there. its up to you to change this! because if this server stays too empty I have to think twice if I will support it. take this chance! and dont forget to visit www.ngg-central.de.vu to see what maps have to be downloadet. nothing is worse than a player saying "but I have no custommap installed besides siege..." BAH!
    ask friends, teammates who would like to play custommaps and we will do fine. crisis... I dont know what to do anymore... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    sorry, gravity, but gamespy always shows me the toothpick and vogroo servers at the top of the list, because i always set it to at least 1 player and ping < 150 <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    gamespy? use allseingeye! for gods sake... "where are all the players gone?"

    miss some <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> -outs <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->asraniel I tested ns_napo twice: first when you released the beta. this was a... lets say a weird map. the last days I tested the last released version but something told me not to add this map. there were severall things "hurting" my eyes  lets see the new version. but this answer isnt to important because the server lacks on players! *WAAAAAAAAAH* maybe if I add napo... *thinks about it* but keep in mind that this is a german server. foreign countries will also be welcome but the communication will be kinda difficult  <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    well... could you say WHATS wrong with the newest version? i would love to know it, because i have NO feedback for my map!!!!!
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    you see.. as soon as i want feedback everyone goes away..i hope you know that its hard for a mapper to make a map that no ones play(or rarely, when its played its outdated version.. every time grrr) and no one gives feedback.
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    ok asraniel I will be fair and give you feedback (although this should be another thread):
    first to say is that the map itself isnt bad. there are lots of hallways, corners and cover. the most eyecatching is the lightning. I like this kinda scarry light/dark pattern. BUT: plz make it more interessting by changing the color of the spots a littel bit or add some extra lightning that has another color. in some areas the map is too dark. what I really dont like are the textures, yeah the textures are all the evil <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> you took textures that look horrible and they should never ever be used on any ns map that wants to look well. the floor even seems to have the same texture in all places! a last one: make some more contrast locations, some spots you can orient at. the layout seems to be little bit on alien side but this has not to be bad. and make the marinestart bigger. nothing worse than marinestart where aliens have an advantage.
    I know Im hard but Im fair <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> thats why the map isnt played on our server. maybe its just me... but we drift through live and lern and improve. was that your first map? guess first map for ns because it dont look noobish enough for first hl map <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> if I were you I would let this map go and start a new one. dont see it as wasted time. you lerned so much from creating a fictional environment. who knows: maybe one day you will be a leveldesigner of unreal 2005 or quake 7 <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    okokok....
    I admit Im stupid. a nerd told me how he would like a custom server to be. tomorrow I will start changing the server mapcycle and update some maps. will also add ns_mystic, ns_nirvana. will see if I get this right...

    "Wenn du mich das nächste Mal anlaberst, stell voher fest ob bei dir nicht totale mentale Ebbe herrscht!!!" (during training session after ha attack failed)
  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    He does not refer to me btw <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Though I also told Gravity to remove the standard maps because they can be played anywhere.
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    edited July 2003
    ok here we go again:
    change the mapcycle and removed ALL standart maps to give the best custom support <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    dont be afraid. siege will be one of the mapsnever getting played on the server.
    check the changed cycle.
    and if anybody missed it:

    hp: www.ngg-central.de.vu (links to download the maps)
    irc channel: #nostromo (quakenet)
    server: -=NGG=-Templers?home
    ip: 62.93.201.6:27300
    PASSWORD: nostromo

    (for those who cant read in capital letters <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> )

    @elite: are all the maps hosted on your hp or does it connect to the authors server? because for the hp the "hivemind see what you get" no-instand download thing may detract some ppl from our hp <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . Im thinking about a mappack. only have to update to the newest hydrosity version.
    happy fraggin!

    "Guck mal der da, den gehen wir jetzt mess0rn!" (marine that attacks gorge with his knife)
  • Elite_GuardElite_Guard Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10258Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lt.Gravity+Jul 18 2003, 01:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Gravity @ Jul 18 2003, 01:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> @elite: are all the maps hosted on your hp or does it connect to the authors server? because for the hp the "hivemind see what you get" no-instand download thing may detract some ppl from our hp <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> . Im thinking about a mappack. only have to update to the newest hydrosity version.
    happy fraggin! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    All the maps are hosted on the hive minds webserver.
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    elite: problem is that I want to feature direct downloads. if I redirect to your hp its a good thing but its kinda complicated.

    changed the cycle to its "final form" <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    need some finished mapping projects fpr the first testrun.

    AND WE NEED PLAYERS! LOTS OF PLAYERS!!!
  • Elite_GuardElite_Guard Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10258Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Lt.Gravity+Jul 20 2003, 02:20 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lt.Gravity @ Jul 20 2003, 02:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> elite: problem is that I want to feature direct downloads. if I redirect to your hp its a good thing but its kinda complicated. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah we have ultra-long links, but that is how the downloads get counted.
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    maybe it would be possible to give me the source html if I ask you to?

    btw: looks like the serious custom map server thing doesnt work. this is very sad. I wanted to give playerss and mappers the opportunity to play custom maps, that were created with passion and the sense of crafting something new.
    so the god admin (who rented the server, NOT me!) decided to change the cycle to standart maps to attract more players. I think this server wont be available anymore next month cause I dont see any sense to pay for a **** standartmaps server. if nothing changes in this direction I only have to say one thing:
    its sad that this maps were created for nothing! the only chance to give one map the honor of being played is to enter the official maps status. at this moment its clear that creating custommaps for ns seems to be a waste of time because the decent maps hardly get played.
    ergo: creatin a custommaps server seems to be impossible. at least we all have lerned something about this. maybe it changes in some weeks but if it doesnt...
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    hey thx Lt.Gravity for the feedback(i just saw it now)
    well, its not my first HL map, and not realy my first ns map either. but the other ns map was mapped before ns was out and then i saw that its horrible.. *g*

    i wont let this map go away, simply because i know i will never finish another map for ns, simply because it took me now over one year to make that map. i know i could have done it in 3-4 months, but there was much lack of motivation etc. and when HL2 comes out im shure i will have a huge drop in motivation to map for HL/NS

    i will see what i can do to respond to your critics(wich are cool, i realy like that, thx). There are many things that i dont know, simply because i cannot playtest my map. Like that the marine start is too alien friendly. i didnt knew that, i was always thinking that its fine, specialy with the new doors i added.(and i have 400 w_polys at the marine start.. there is not much room for changes).
    take a look at the 3 screens i added in the screenshots thread, i hope you like them a little bit more...
  • DEADscottDEADscott Join Date: 2003-03-29 Member: 15022Members, Constellation
    LT. Gravity, you went about it the wrong way. First you must get your server popular by playing the maps the PUBLIC wants to play. Like the sieges and ninja_fall. Then you slowly introduce the SERIOUS custom maps one by one. But you must leave a few of the FUN custom maps on your server that the PUBLIC wants to play.

    I see you saying how sad it is that no one will play SERIOUS custom maps, and pleading for players. You seem to think that just by filling your server with the SERIOUS maps that YOU want played, it will draw alot of players. It dosnt work that way, as you have found out.

    Im sorry to see any NS server fail. But dont blame it on the PUBLIC. The enjoyment factor lies on the server operators shoulders. Try again. Your first goal must be to fill the server, no matter what it takes. Then introduce the custom maps you would like to see played. Yes its alot of work, and yes you will have to run maps that you dont want to run. But as in life, you must give to get.

    I know what your responce will be, NO FUN MAPS ON MY SERVER! I want a server where only SERIOUS maps are played! I wont stoop to that level just to get players in my server! Well then dont whine about how you cant get any players in your server.

    You said its sad that no one will play SERIOUS custom maps. We have SERIOUS custom maps in our rotation. I think its sad that server some server operators think that the public should play the maps that they want to play without giving anything in return.

    Our server always has a few SERIOUS custom maps on it. Cheating-Death is manditory to play on it. At first it was almost impossible to get players in it. But I have learned that by using some plug-ins that the public likes, and running some FUN maps that the public LOVES, our server generally stays full.

    Some advice, dont go into Public Relations for a career.
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    or make it like some other servers, play the official maps and there are some custom maps in the map cycle, that should work
  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    edited July 2003
    hmm I don't understand it. Among all the standard and fun map servers is ONE german custom maps server and noone wants to play on it?!? This server has the BEST pings to me among all servers. But: I can't find it in GameSpy and it has a password. Some players might have filtered password servers.
    Idea: Spend more money on a password free server, run siege006 24/7, add these cool plugins (unstuck, lerklift and the one that gives spawn-umbra and healing armory) and wait till the server gets full. Switch to some impressive custom map and tell the people where they can download it. Convince everyone to come back and add the server to the favorites, becauseit has the "elite" pings and some of the best custom maps in existance.
    I have joined your server two times and waited 10 minutes, but noone ever joins the game. It is hard to get an unknown server with unknown maps with a password and no players running. That is true.
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    i played on the server, i got kicked because i get i the command chair because no one was commanding.. now i understand why no one plays on that server.. try to change your admin attitudes
  • NerdIIINerdIII Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15230Members
    I had the same on another server in the UK. They were playing canyonwar (omg) and there were only three players. So I went comm although I am not good at it. After some time the server was filled up. Suddenly a few players started an eject vote because I build arms lab and stuff in an area where you can't upgrade. How should I know? Ok so I exited the console and these freakin guys made fun of it starting a kick-ban-vote on me. I hope more serious maps lead to more serious players.
  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    edited July 2003
    the only thing that i did was right. there was a situation that we attacked the aliens, but we were not able to kill em. they had fades. so, no com(only sometimes when someone needed a waepon). so, i went com, i built a TF(siege the hive etc, you know). well, bad, the team that should have build it died(hey, i helped them with medpacks). then i gave the team HA, HMG, JP.. and i was kicked by a admin... very strange. well, if the server dont need me, i can play on other servers, theyr fault
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Members
    Asraniel I asked Templer why he had kicked you. Short answer: "He gave no medpacks when needed and at least we couldnt vote him out." thats why. although I thing its quite hard to kick a commander if the game is lost allready (YIIIIIIIIHAH, we won <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> ) dont forget that such things can happen easily. btw: since we have got this server you were the second person that was ever kicked... besides me <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo--> and one english server banned me cause I was "advertising" our server. some admins really suck <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
    I have to change the cycle on the first page... I mixed the custommaps up with the standart ones BUT IN REVERSE ORDER! Its impressing how effective this can be. mapchoice: we all have a personal taste. I heared that there are people who even like NANCY! but you cant start with "11th_hr too wide, atomicmass to marine friendly, hydrosity too disorienting,..." I want to see the perfect map that everybody likes.
    I forgot to mention the plugins on the server *damn me* but there are only few that makes sense to ns and dont lower the pings too mucg (a lot of plugins mean a drop in pings):
    - unstuck (this should be standart on every server)
    - lerklift ("little cuttie gorge need a flyby?")
    - status (to see the hive health points is quite cool)
    - and of cause cheating death
    we have a slight problem with the version check cause some of the guys have older versions off maps but this never had been a too big problem. maybe a mappack would fix this.
    and nerd: thx for the positiv reply. we are working on it. yesterday server was FULL the first time
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