<!--QuoteBegin--HAMBOWN+Jun 9 2003, 12:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HAMBOWN @ Jun 9 2003, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But the simple fact of the matter is that historically in <b>every single</b> Top European clan vs Top US clan match the euro clan has been humiliated. There has <b>never</b> been a Top European clan that has even tied a top American clan. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like when eu4ia crushed 3D, and NiP crushed X3. Or are u just talking about NS?
I have played alot with wltrs, zaiko and stalk in my days and I can say that you dont get better skillwise...
Tactics are the most important though, and in caged I must say EU kicked US butt pretty much all over...in tanith my demo wouldnt work on the US win...but I think the the 3 win for EU was about the same as caged...
BTW .bm played a draw vs teamEU the night before...=)
First of all, well done EU <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
But please everyone chill out will you. I mean it is only a game, secondly (regarding HAMBROWN) reviewing this thread and the other thread about this topic i have failed to notice anybody "bragging" about the EU win. Yes and it is this kind of attitude towards the world that makes many people across the world 'hate americans'. It is unfortunate steriotypes of a large group of people are set by a very small minority.
As for 5-6 people representing the country, well that is what they are doing representing that country (just like in the olympics). If you knew your prides would be so affected then you should have prepaired more, cos i damn well know i would have. It is never an excuse.
I wont mention any other persons names where i feel they went a bit over 'patriotic'. And i apologise to HAMBROWN for mentioning you as an example, but i found some of the comments you made were quite offensive.
So lets just keep this friendly a _friendly_, suck it in EU beat u this time return the favor next time (although i do hope not <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->, uk here). and not let such a small thing make transatlantic relations as frosty as... banana trade. (ahem)
<!--QuoteBegin--.torment. j+Jun 9 2003, 02:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.torment. j @ Jun 9 2003, 02:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--HAMBOWN+Jun 9 2003, 12:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HAMBOWN @ Jun 9 2003, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But the simple fact of the matter is that historically in <b>every single</b> Top European clan vs Top US clan match the euro clan has been humiliated. There has <b>never</b> been a Top European clan that has even tied a top American clan. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like when eu4ia crushed 3D, and NiP crushed X3. Or are u just talking about NS? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Umm he's talking about <i><b>ns</b></i>
<!--QuoteBegin--[FoD]JohnnyAppleWeed+Jun 9 2003, 10:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([FoD]JohnnyAppleWeed @ Jun 9 2003, 10:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey....everytime I try to play a demo it says "Error: Could not copy demo-file: the filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
How do I fix this? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you use GeekPlay? If no, I would advise you to do so <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> And if there are some problems, you can still fix the demo with the same program.
As for everyone else: no need to find excuses and to flame each other. EU played better, won the match and both teams (and the hundreds of spectators) had fun. Please refrain from any national insults as they're completely inappropriate.
The Team USA could wipe their tears and suck it up. You lost and a gentleman doesn't try to discredit his opponent even in defeat. If you regarded it as a friendly match just for fun, stop being so hurt about the euros being happy over their win and have that fun. Maybe you'll return the favor on a later date, but this time you lost.
It's not about you accepting your loss, but your ability to keep quiet about "what ifs". Everyone knows you lost and doesn't even except you not to accept it since 3-1 is pretty hard to argue against. You can say that it was close and you could have turned the tide with things going more your way but you do not say stuff like "if we had practiced more, things would have been very different". That's just not done like Marine pointed out earlier.
<!--QuoteBegin--eggmac+Jun 9 2003, 03:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eggmac @ Jun 9 2003, 03:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--[FoD]JohnnyAppleWeed+Jun 9 2003, 10:04 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([FoD]JohnnyAppleWeed @ Jun 9 2003, 10:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Hey....everytime I try to play a demo it says "Error: Could not copy demo-file: the filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect"
How do I fix this? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Do you use GeekPlay? If no, I would advise you to do so <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> And if there are some problems, you can still fix the demo with the same program.
As for everyone else: no need to find excuses and to flame each other. EU played better, won the match and both teams (and the hundreds of spectators) had fun. Please refrain from any national insults as they're completely inappropriate. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes its on geekplay, I load the demo and click "play demo" and that error pops up every time ;(
Whilst I don't like all the arguing over the matches, it is setting the scene up nicely for a 1.1 rematch... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
The Team USA could wipe their tears and suck it up. You lost and a gentleman doesn't try to discredit his opponent even in defeat. If you regarded it as a friendly match just for fun, stop being so hurt about the euros being happy over their win and have that fun. Maybe you'll return the favor on a later date, but this time you lost.
It's not about you accepting your loss, but your ability to keep quiet about "what ifs". Everyone knows you lost and doesn't even except you not to accept it since 3-1 is pretty hard to argue against. You can say that it was close and you could have turned the tide with things going more your way but you do not say stuff like "if we had practiced more, things would have been very different". That's just not done like Marine pointed out earlier. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Now thats true.
Necro<insert non-birthday-related title here>Join Date: 2002-08-09Member: 1118Members
<!--QuoteBegin--.torment. j+Jun 9 2003, 10:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (.torment. j @ Jun 9 2003, 10:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--HAMBOWN+Jun 9 2003, 12:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HAMBOWN @ Jun 9 2003, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->But the simple fact of the matter is that historically in <b>every single</b> Top European clan vs Top US clan match the euro clan has been humiliated. There has <b>never</b> been a Top European clan that has even tied a top American clan. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like when eu4ia crushed 3D, and NiP crushed X3. Or are u just talking about NS? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> oh and sk.fr won 101st in dod.
Necro<insert non-birthday-related title here>Join Date: 2002-08-09Member: 1118Members
i see it as most europeans are gloating because well, everytime you go somewhere or talk to an american and say your from like finland for example
they're like "where's that" or "that's a part of russia?"
not only that but they insult us all the time, look at the shoutcast, all the time snide little insults, simply because you think your better. Now we all <b>SHOULD KNOW</b> that you cannot measure true skill in 1.04 so stop being so damn immature and flaming "my country is better than yours".
as for winning? big woop, we won, yay, doesn't change anything, hell the only thing that will change hopefully (but unlikely) is that we'd get more respect, instead of the "oh, your a euro, you must suck" attitude i see a lot.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm really surprised. Since US clans usually completely humiliate the EU clans. Not only in NS but especially in CS.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Interesting Article from Gotfrag.com:
European, American CS <a href='http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=feature&id=171&x=' target='_blank'>http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=feature&id=171&x=</a>
GOTFRAG Official CS Ranking <a href='http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=clanrankings&x=#world' target='_blank'>http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=clanrankings&x=#world</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--Necro-+Jun 9 2003, 05:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Necro- @ Jun 9 2003, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> as for winning? big woop, we won, yay, doesn't change anything, hell the only thing that will change hopefully (but unlikely) is that we'd get more respect, instead of the "oh, your a euro, you must suck" attitude i see a lot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> You're 8<, Necro <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I can't wait for the rematch. I'm sure both teams are going to put up a heck of a fight.
So noone knows how to fix my demo play problem? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--Marine01+Jun 9 2003, 06:38 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marine01 @ Jun 9 2003, 06:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Once again the world stands in awe at American Sportsmanship.
"What, we lost!! Well that because, because, ummmm.... WE ALL WERE PLAYTESTING yeah, yeah thats why, an an an we werent prepared, and i'd never heard of those american players before, so if the real players had been playing, the we woulda pwned j00 all.
I certainly hope that none of these people complaining were actually those who played in the match.
The classy thing to do here, my US friends, is find a quiet thread and ask amongst yourselves - what went wrong. In this thread, the only thing to do is congratulate both sides, and give special mention to the Euros for winning
GG both teams. Well done Euros
EDIT
While it may be true that most of your team play NS1.1, you simply CAN NOT mention that or make note of it. Its just a poor show.
Take my soccer match for example. We raped this team 6-3, and then after the match they talked really loudly about how if they'd had their state rep player they would have beaten us.
It just make them look like a bunch of stupid sods, and poor sportsmen to boot <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> agree, but u shouldn't generalize that... not all americans have such a lame attittude...
There are no EU marines in US hives !! not now not ever !!
There are no EU aliens in US marine bases !! not now not ever !!
Deny deny deny deny deny..... You guys should learn the art <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
Being from South Africa means I get to poke fun at all of you guys <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Seriously though guys... no-one lost any money I hope ? Maybe all need to calm down a bit...I'm sure the sun will still rise tomorrow etc.
Anyone have this problem where the movie plays, only REALLY slowly? And then if you bring up the console it goes fast again. It's a common problem on the geekboy forums which are not maintained or something.
<!--QuoteBegin--lagger+Jun 9 2003, 05:40 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lagger @ Jun 9 2003, 05:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Erm..... the cows can beat everyone at any game... why do we fight their power? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's quite true. I think watching the demos it should be <b> obvious to all </b> that it was the invisible cows and South African saboteur that clearly dictated the outcomes !!
Comments
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Like when eu4ia crushed 3D, and NiP crushed X3. Or are u just talking about NS?
I have played alot with wltrs, zaiko and stalk in my days and I can say that you dont get better skillwise...
Tactics are the most important though, and in caged I must say EU kicked US butt pretty much all over...in tanith my demo wouldnt work on the US win...but I think the the 3 win for EU was about the same as caged...
BTW .bm played a draw vs teamEU the night before...=)
But please everyone chill out will you.
I mean it is only a game, secondly (regarding HAMBROWN) reviewing this thread and the other thread about this topic i have failed to notice anybody "bragging" about the EU win.
Yes and it is this kind of attitude towards the world that makes many people across the world 'hate americans'. It is unfortunate steriotypes of a large group of people are set by a very small minority.
As for 5-6 people representing the country, well that is what they are doing representing that country (just like in the olympics). If you knew your prides would be so affected then you should have prepaired more, cos i damn well know i would have. It is never an excuse.
I wont mention any other persons names where i feel they went a bit over 'patriotic'. And i apologise to HAMBROWN for mentioning you as an example, but i found some of the comments you made were quite offensive.
So lets just keep this friendly a _friendly_, suck it in EU beat u this time return the favor next time (although i do hope not <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->, uk here). and not let such a small thing make transatlantic relations as frosty as... banana trade. (ahem)
Jim
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like when eu4ia crushed 3D, and NiP crushed X3. Or are u just talking about NS? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Umm he's talking about <i><b>ns</b></i>
How do I fix this?
How do I fix this? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do you use GeekPlay?
If no, I would advise you to do so <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> And if there are some problems, you can still fix the demo with the same program.
As for everyone else:
no need to find excuses and to flame each other. EU played better, won the match and both teams (and the hundreds of spectators) had fun. Please refrain from any national insults as they're completely inappropriate.
The Team USA could wipe their tears and suck it up. You lost and a gentleman doesn't try to discredit his opponent even in defeat. If you regarded it as a friendly match just for fun, stop being so hurt about the euros being happy over their win and have that fun. Maybe you'll return the favor on a later date, but this time you lost.
It's not about you accepting your loss, but your ability to keep quiet about "what ifs". Everyone knows you lost and doesn't even except you not to accept it since 3-1 is pretty hard to argue against. You can say that it was close and you could have turned the tide with things going more your way but you do not say stuff like "if we had practiced more, things would have been very different". That's just not done like Marine pointed out earlier.
Excellent teamplay and strats. Looked like USA just didn't know what to do.
I'm really surprised. Since US clans usually completely humiliate the EU clans.
Not only in NS but especially in CS.
nice commentary Flay <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
*thumbes-up* EU. Almost makes me proud to be a European...
...nah not really still hate the place.
How do I fix this? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do you use GeekPlay?
If no, I would advise you to do so <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> And if there are some problems, you can still fix the demo with the same program.
As for everyone else:
no need to find excuses and to flame each other. EU played better, won the match and both teams (and the hundreds of spectators) had fun. Please refrain from any national insults as they're completely inappropriate. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes its on geekplay, I load the demo and click "play demo" and that error pops up every time ;(
GJ to both teams and well done EU.
The Team USA could wipe their tears and suck it up. You lost and a gentleman doesn't try to discredit his opponent even in defeat. If you regarded it as a friendly match just for fun, stop being so hurt about the euros being happy over their win and have that fun. Maybe you'll return the favor on a later date, but this time you lost.
It's not about you accepting your loss, but your ability to keep quiet about "what ifs". Everyone knows you lost and doesn't even except you not to accept it since 3-1 is pretty hard to argue against. You can say that it was close and you could have turned the tide with things going more your way but you do not say stuff like "if we had practiced more, things would have been very different". That's just not done like Marine pointed out earlier. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now thats true.
I used a World Ranking List for the CPL that was pretty inaccurate.
I'm looking for one.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Like when eu4ia crushed 3D, and NiP crushed X3. Or are u just talking about NS? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
oh and sk.fr won 101st in dod.
they're like "where's that" or "that's a part of russia?"
not only that but they insult us all the time, look at the shoutcast, all the time snide little insults, simply because you think your better. Now we all <b>SHOULD KNOW</b> that you cannot measure true skill in 1.04 so stop being so damn immature and flaming "my country is better than yours".
as for winning? big woop, we won, yay, doesn't change anything, hell the only thing that will change hopefully (but unlikely) is that we'd get more respect, instead of the "oh, your a euro, you must suck" attitude i see a lot.
<!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm really surprised. Since US clans usually completely humiliate the EU clans.
Not only in NS but especially in CS.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Interesting Article from Gotfrag.com:
European, American CS
<a href='http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=feature&id=171&x=' target='_blank'>http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=feature&id=171&x=</a>
GOTFRAG Official CS Ranking
<a href='http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=clanrankings&x=#world' target='_blank'>http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=clanrankings&x=#world</a>
1 Schroet Kommando Sweden (EU)
2 GameOnline ! eoLithic (EU)
3 Team9 Sweden (EU)
4 Desire Discipline Dedication (US)
5 Gamers-X (US)
6 zEx (US)
7 HLO (EU)
8 Mousesports (EU)
9 XP.se (EU)
10 Gamepoint Sweden (EU)
Be sure to read <u>How are these rankings are determined?</u>.
You're 8<, Necro <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
I can't wait for the rematch. I'm sure both teams are going to put up a heck of a fight.
"What, we lost!! Well that because, because, ummmm.... WE ALL WERE PLAYTESTING yeah, yeah thats why, an an an we werent prepared, and i'd never heard of those american players before, so if the real players had been playing, the we woulda pwned j00 all.
I certainly hope that none of these people complaining were actually those who played in the match.
The classy thing to do here, my US friends, is find a quiet thread and ask amongst yourselves - what went wrong. In this thread, the only thing to do is congratulate both sides, and give special mention to the Euros for winning
GG both teams. Well done Euros
EDIT
While it may be true that most of your team play NS1.1, you simply CAN NOT mention that or make note of it. Its just a poor show.
Take my soccer match for example. We raped this team 6-3, and then after the match they talked really loudly about how if they'd had their state rep player they would have beaten us.
It just make them look like a bunch of stupid sods, and poor sportsmen to boot <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
agree, but u shouldn't generalize that...
not all americans have such a lame attittude...
There are no EU aliens in US marine bases !! not now not ever !!
Deny deny deny deny deny..... You guys should learn the art <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo-->
Being from South Africa means I get to poke fun at all of you guys <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
Seriously though guys... no-one lost any money I hope ? Maybe all need to calm down a bit...I'm sure the sun will still rise tomorrow etc.
Anyone have this problem where the movie plays, only REALLY slowly? And then if you bring up the console it goes fast again. It's a common problem on the geekboy forums which are not maintained or something.
That's quite true. I think watching the demos it should be <b> obvious to all </b> that it was the invisible cows and South African saboteur that clearly dictated the outcomes !!