How Has Leap Changed In 1.1

NightCrawlerz · June 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">cause i own with it in 1.04</div> I get around 30+ leap kills a game on clan servers and they call it an exploit and a bug every server keeps threatining to ban me. I was wondering if leap has changed at all in 1.1

Jojoshua · June 2003

Im pretty sure leap does the same damage, but it doesnt seem like you get the same thrust or distance as in 1.04.

keelem · June 2003

Air speeds were changed so they're only 2x of your normal speed.

The_Real_Quasar · June 2003

High FPS increases the leap damage by a factor of hundreds.

Decimator · June 2003

Well, since leap damage will no longer be tied to fps it could be weakened considerably. We shall have to wait for a vet or playtester.

NightCrawlerz · June 2003

i only have 85 fps because of vertical sync.. so id assume that they would average all build speeds and stuff to an fps of about 85

Edit: i dont say this because im the only one that matters, i say this because everyone should at least have 85 fps

Gadzuko · June 2003

I'm running a 2 Ghz Pentium with 256 meg of ram, and I get 65 some fps. I don't feel like optimizing because the game runs fine... tell me why I "should" have at least 85 fps so I can take advantage of unfair abilities?

Zel · June 2003

NS is the only game where i have EVER needed more than 20 fps, and im upset that ti gives advantages to those with supercomputers, but i am overjoyed that 1.1 claims to resolve that issue.

about leap being slower, darnit. it is no longer the tool used to get around the world anymore?

Applicator · June 2003

there is nothing in 1.1 that is based on fps.

Amped1 · June 2003

Yeah. You gotta love it when that 99 FPS guy kills you in less than a second with leap or flies forever with his jetpack.

Tyrain · June 2003

No I know why I always lose..... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'>

NightCrawlerz · June 2003

i have a 1.6 gig pentium 4 with a geforce 2 ti and i get 85 fps..... now if you dont get 85 fps and your comp is better than mine.... then you really nee help

Zel · June 2003

my 0.8 gig pentium 3 runs windows and IE and word just spectacularly, theres no reason i should need more than 20 fps in any game, at any time, thank you 1.1

JusticeBlade · June 2003

Yep in 1.1 super leap damage is GONE!!!! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> YAY!!!

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'>
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HA HA NOooo

Xentor · June 2003

Bah, if I was running in 640x480 with 16-bit color, I'd get a nice high fps too... But I prefer to run 1024x768x32 and settle for about 30-60fps depending on the action...

My stats: P3-1GHz, 256MB ram, 128MB Radeon 8500

Macguyvok · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I'm running a 2 Ghz Pentium with 256 meg of ram, and I get 65 some fps. I don't feel like optimizing because the game runs fine... tell me why I "should" have at least 85 fps so I can take advantage of unfair abilities?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Well.. here's one to think about.

AMD Athlon XP 2100+
Gforce 4 MX 400 64 meg DDR Ram 8x AGP
256mb DDR pc2700 Ram
2 gig set aside as swap space on a 7200 RPM ATA 133 HD
Windows XP Pro

Average FPS @ 1024 x 768 x 32: 60 in OpenGL... in DX mode I got 72, but I never changed max FPS... only I get weird map errors in DX mode <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Tweaks: Erm.... none/not many

So.... why should I be getting 85 fps again?

lagger · June 2003

I'm running a:

900mhz p3
Gf4 ti4200
Onboard sound card
356sdr ram

Tweaked my configs/settings to the limit, I get 80-100fps. *unless i see more then 2 people on my screen or tons of nades etc*

Back to post, Leap is slower although still fast enough to juke some of the best shooters. Although leap was used to transverse the map, its not really needed with the hightened base speed on skulks and celerity. *celerity is so fast its sometimes to fast to control* I'm not sure about the damage since i never really used it for killing people. *bite always seem to do the job*

EnemyWithin · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Macguyvok @ Jun 4 2003, 01:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Average FPS @ 1024 x 768 x 32: 60 in OpenGL... in DX mode I got 72, but I never changed max FPS... only I get weird map errors in DX mode <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Tweaks: Erm.... none/not many

So.... why should I be getting 85 fps again?</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
You suffer from a well known problem with Windows 2K/XP. If you have VSYNC enabled, then you will only get 60 fps max in OpenGL games, as your monitor will default to 60Hz (or 72Hz in the case of D3D). You need to download a program to fix this "issue" and allow your games to run at high refresh rates (and, hence, higher fps). You could also just turn VSYNC off to get higher fps, but then you would still be running your monitor at 60Hz. This would produce visual tearing and studdering. I definately recommend reading <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=28768' target='_blank'>this</a> post for more information.

Frogg2 · June 2003

you can still leap like you can in 1.04 but you have to look up and crouch when you leap.

Macguyvok · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>You suffer from a well known problem with Windows 2K/XP. If you have VSYNC enabled, then you will only get 60 fps max in OpenGL games, as your monitor will default to 60Hz (or 72Hz in the case of D3D). You need to download a program to fix this "issue" and allow your games to run at high refresh rates (and, hence, higher fps). You could also just turn VSYNC off to get higher fps, but then you would still be running your monitor at 60Hz. This would produce visual tearing and studdering. I definately recommend reading this post for more information.</td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>

Yes.. well, I've got vsync off.... :-/ I don't get tearing though... but I would like to get higher refresh rate.. only the proggies I've gotten don't seem to work well....

SuicideRusher · June 2003

wow never heard of 8X agp gf2mx

but anyway, go <a href='http://xp-refresh.net' target='_blank'>here</a> for a opengl fix

Agkelos · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NightCrawler. @ Jun 3 2003, 12:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I get around 30+ leap kills a game on clan servers and they call it an exploit and a bug every server keeps threatining to ban me. I was wondering if leap has changed at all in 1.1 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
HAHAHHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

sorry.. but this is the funniest attempt of trying to ask a legitimate question while at the same time trying to sound "elite" or above all others.. kthx....

its actaully impossible to get 30+ leap kills per game on decent clanservers.. leap kills are kinda rare.. and to get 30 kills off random top clanners.. or even actually decent players is kinda ... shady..

but if u play against the NSPlayer gang.. rock on buddy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

btw, any clan that considers leap kills an exploit and a bug is not even a clan.. its a joke.. =/

Gadzuko · June 2003

Well, with 100 fps a vanilla skulk can take down a HA marine in two hits. I've never played against an "expert" but it's pretty much way overpowered.

Edit: and thanks for insulting me for not getting |337 fps. That's the way to make friends.

Agkelos · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gadzuko @ Jun 3 2003, 10:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Well, with 100 fps a vanilla skulk can take down a HA marine in two hits. I've never played against an "expert" but it's pretty much way overpowered.

Edit: and thanks for insulting me for not getting |337 fps. That's the way to make friends.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Gadzuko, its okay. He lies. =/

airyK · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Agkelos @ Jun 3 2003, 10:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NightCrawler. @ Jun 3 2003, 12:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I get around 30+ leap kills a game on clan servers and they call it an exploit and a bug every server keeps threatining to ban me. I was wondering if leap has changed at all in 1.1 </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
HAHAHHAAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

sorry.. but this is the funniest attempt of trying to ask a legitimate question while at the same time trying to sound "elite" or above all others.. kthx....

its actaully impossible to get 30+ leap kills per game on decent clanservers.. leap kills are kinda rare.. and to get 30 kills off random top clanners.. or even actually decent players is kinda ... shady..

but if u play against the NSPlayer gang.. rock on buddy <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

btw, any clan that considers leap kills an exploit and a bug is not even a clan.. its a joke.. =/  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
actually i think there is a impulse exploit that will let you do unlimited leap w/skulk, i dont know which one but ive never tryed it out

NightCrawlerz · June 2003

You dont belive me? Tell me a server and ill own you with leap. Just ask voogru himself if i am good with leap or just ask anyone on the RedPhive servers. I play on the RedPhive Servers all the time. Give your server ip or name, and if its locked, the password. You want to play just pm me.

P.S. i play under this name OR Wertdagf.j2

Edit: no i dont hack or script or use the unlimited energy leap exploit, but youll be saying i do <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> also if your not a server based in america i cant play on your servers.

chia-ono · June 2003

I'm sorry...but voogru and redphive?... those aren't the best place to go if you're looking for top skilled players. Considering all the plug-ins they have aliens can have cara 3 in less than 1.5 minute of the game.

Brad_R · June 2003

all that matter is leap bite is gone

eggmac · June 2003

There are a lot of very good NS players, no need to over-exaggerate oneself...

Jummeh · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mcclane @ Jun 4 2003, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> all that matter is leap bite is gone  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
how is that gone? can you not change weapons in mid flight now :/

leap is one of 2 things a skulk vs HA can do. The second is dying.

Elderwyrm · June 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (mcclane @ Jun 4 2003, 10:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> all that matter is leap bite is gone  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Ahem. No Leap Biting? No leap kills (atleast not easily)? Leap not used to transverse the map because of increase in skulk speed.

What does leap do? Scare marines away with your high pitched piggy squeal?

How Has Leap Changed In 1.1

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