Steyr Advanced Combat Rifle

BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
Such a fugly gun but fires such a sexeh round <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
Top link.

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  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited May 2003
    eeewwwww steyr acr <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


    Caliber: 5.6 mm fleschette
    Action: Gas operated, rising breech
    Overall length: ??mm
    Barrel length: 540 mm
    Weigth: 3.23 kg w/o magazine
    Rate of fire: ?? rounds per minute
    Magazine capacity: 24 rounds


    The Advanced Combat Rifle program was started by the US Army in the late 1980s with the main goal to improve the hit probability of average infantry soldier by at least 100 percents above the M16A2 capabilities. During this trials, held in the early 1990s, some new and existing designs from several companies were tested, with more or less sucess, but no one achieved the 100% improvement in hit probablility over the existing M16 rifle, so program was terminated and all participating designs were freezed, which is pity. One of the most interesting participants was a design of the austrian company Steyr-Mannlicher AG.

    The Steyr ACR was built as an attempt to revive the fleschette ammunition concept, first tried in the 1960s during US Army SPIW program. In 1960s, the fleschette concept was a failure. In 1990s, it was much more sucessful, but not enough to be worth of total rearming to the new infantry weapon system.

    Steyr ACR is built around a specially designed cartridge of nominal caliber of 5.56mm. This cartridge has simple, cylindrically shaped plastic case. The fleschette, or dart, is totally enclosed in the case. Fleschette diameter is about 1.5 mm (.06 inch), lenght is about 41 mm (1.6 inch), weight 0.66 gramm (10 grains). Fleschette is partially enclosed into discarding sabot, and leaves the muzzle at impressive velocity of 1450 meters per second (4750 fps), still retaining velocity of 910 m/s (2980 fps) at the range of 600 meters. The plastic case had no rim or extracting groove, and priming compound is located annually at the inside wall of the case.

    To fire such uncommon cartridge, Steyr ACR has equally uncommon design. Barrel of nominal caliber of 5.56mm, has a very slow rifling to give initial stabilisation to the fleschette, which is stabilised in flight by its own small fins. Instead of common linear-moving bolt, Steyr ACR have separate chamber (breech block), which can be moved up and down. The whole action is powered by gas drive, which has annual gas piston, located around the barrel. To understand this system i will explain how it works:
    at first, lets suppose that chamber is empty and rifle is manually cocked for the first shot. In this position the chamber block is its lowest position, aligned with the topmost round in magazine. The gas piston with its operating rod is in its rearmost position and under the pressure of the return spring. When trigger is pressed, the operating rod with gas piston are released and started forward under the pressure of the return spring, which is located around the barrel. This movement, at first, via special rammer, feeds the first round forward from magazine and into the chamber, and then, via shaped cam and breech block spring, rises the breech block with the cartridge into the topmost position. In this position the fixed firing pin passes through the hole in the top of the chamber and penetrates the cartridge wall, igniting the primer composition and firing the round. When projectile (fleschette with sabot) passes the gas port, some of powder gases began to move the gas piston back. This movement, via the operating rod and shaped cam, loweres the breech block with empty case out of alignment with barrel and down to the magazine. When breech comes to stop in the lowest position, a separate rammer feeds next cartridge forward and out of magazine, chambering it. At the same time, the fired case is pushed forward out of the chamber by the next cartridge, and when cleared from the chamber, the spent case simply falls down out of the rifle via the ejection port. The ejection port is located at the bottom of the rifle, ahead of magazine, and this eliminates one of the biggest problems of any bull-pup rifle - a non-ambidextrous (or, in this case - fully ambidextrous) ejection.

    If rifle is set to the full auto mode, the firing cycle is repeated as descibed above. Otherwise, the loaded breech remains in its lowest position, awaiting for the next trigger pull.

    This quite comprehensive action was concealed in sleek and comfortable polymer case with AUG-styled pistol grip and large ventilated upper rib with fixed sights. Optical sights also were fitted. Due to extremely high projectile velocity, flight time was very short at any practical ranges, and trajectory was wery flat, giving the shooter almost ray-gun performance, which allowed to fire withouth prior calculations of point of impact - speaking simply, at any practical combat ranges shooter will hit where it aimed, regardless target movements (projectile flight time to the target at 300 meters is about 0.2 seconds). Due to high velocity, Steyr ACR had good killing power and armour piercing capablities, and due to the low weight of the projectile recoil was low. But it was not enough to double the M16 performance, so, for now, the Steyr ACR remains in prototype or preproductional state and the program is freezed if not abandoned at all.
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    pwned <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited May 2003
    hmm.. this design sucked so much.. even steyr denies they developed this gun <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--> but it got one seksay receiver..
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited May 2003
    some times the discarding sabot wont fall away,,, that causes bad jams... missing the target... and other unhealthy stuff..
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    bah, it was like the shillelagh
    good idea, just ahead of its time <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
  • ArgOnatHArgOnatH Join Date: 2003-01-02 Member: 11720Members
    omg looks like the designers 5 yr old son got into his study and became Crayon Happy!

    i would love to slap the designer of this gun, cuz its realy fugly! u'd be laughtd at if u carried it into battle.


    Ranger1 "Hostile Enemy 12 o clock!"
    Ranger2 "I see them, target in sight"
    Ranger1 "Hostiles carrying Steyr ACR "
    Ranger2 "Steyr what?"
    Ranger1 "i dunno"
    Ranger2 "fags"
    Ranger1 "roger that"
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    if the acr works like it should,it would be able to penetrate nearly every known tactical bodyarmor...
    but it wont lol
  • NottinghamNottingham Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10002Members
    sheena.... all that weapon knowlage and info... get a live <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    just kiddin... luv you cuz you make relevant posts (witch this one isnt) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Nottingham+May 29 2003, 06:38 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nottingham @ May 29 2003, 06:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> sheena.... all that weapon knowlage and info... get a live <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    just kiddin... luv you cuz you make relevant posts (witch this one isnt) <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    YOUR POST IS NOT RELEVANT! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->


    joke <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ArgOnatH+May 28 2003, 04:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ArgOnatH @ May 28 2003, 04:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> omg looks like the designers 5 yr old son got into his study and became Crayon Happy!

    i would love to slap the designer of this gun, cuz its realy fugly! u'd be laughtd at if u carried it into battle.


    Ranger1 "Hostile Enemy 12 o clock!"
    Ranger2 "I see them, target in sight"
    Ranger1 "Hostiles carrying Steyr ACR "
    Ranger2 "Steyr what?"
    Ranger1 "i dunno"
    Ranger2 "fags"
    Ranger1 "roger that" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Rofl <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    heads up! incoming irrelevant post at 12 0' Clock, prepare to engage!
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Burncycle+May 28 2003, 11:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Burncycle @ May 28 2003, 11:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Such a fugly gun but fires such a sexeh round <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
    Top link.

    <a href='http://www.geocities.com/refleks180/index.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.geocities.com/refleks180/index.htm</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif'><!--endemo--> after looking around in your renders, i got to applaud, most are pure genius, can i have a copy of the HMG concept? Im in the mood for some Powered Armor creation, and that would fit nicely with project: BSRT (big scary robot thing)...
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    Sure, I went ahead and put download links on the page.

    <a href='http://www.geocities.com/refleks180/index.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.geocities.com/refleks180/index.htm</a>

    It's geocities, so if it's down, wait a little bit and it'll be up in an hour or so.
  • Mr_HeadcrabMr_Headcrab Squee&#33;~ Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9392Members, Constellation
    edited May 2003
    Yay!


    /me hugs Burncycle\


    PS Holy crap! my friend, your models are ASSURED a place on my dropship!

    /me hugs Burncycle once again
  • zambackzamback Join Date: 2002-10-24 Member: 1578Members
    hmm i thought fleschette ammo is outlawed <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BogglesteinskyBogglesteinsky Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11488Members
    not if they dont know about it

    *shifty look*
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    yes... dont know about it.

    shifty music
  • 00Joe00Joe Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14550Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+May 28 2003, 12:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ May 28 2003, 12:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> eeewwwww steyr acr <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


    Caliber: 5.6 mm fleschette
    Action: Gas operated, rising breech
    Overall length: ??mm
    Barrel length: 540 mm
    Weigth: 3.23 kg w/o magazine
    Rate of fire: ?? rounds per minute
    Magazine capacity: 24 rounds


    The Advanced Combat Rifle program was started by the US Army in the late 1980s with the main goal to improve the hit probability of average infantry soldier by at least 100 percents above the M16A2 capabilities. During this trials, held in the early 1990s, some new and existing designs from several companies were tested, with more or less sucess, but no one achieved the 100% improvement in hit probablility over the existing M16 rifle, so program was terminated and all participating designs were freezed, which is pity. One of the most interesting participants was a design of the austrian company Steyr-Mannlicher AG.

    The Steyr ACR was built as an attempt to revive the fleschette ammunition concept, first tried in the 1960s during US Army SPIW program. In 1960s, the fleschette concept was a failure. In 1990s, it was much more sucessful, but not enough to be worth of total rearming to the new infantry weapon system.

    Steyr ACR is built around a specially designed cartridge of nominal caliber of 5.56mm. This cartridge has simple, cylindrically shaped plastic case. The fleschette, or dart, is totally enclosed in the case. Fleschette diameter is about 1.5 mm (.06 inch), lenght is about 41 mm (1.6 inch), weight 0.66 gramm (10 grains). Fleschette is partially enclosed into discarding sabot, and leaves the muzzle at impressive velocity of 1450 meters per second (4750 fps), still retaining velocity of 910 m/s (2980 fps) at the range of 600 meters. The plastic case had no rim or extracting groove, and priming compound is located annually at the inside wall of the case.

    To fire such uncommon cartridge, Steyr ACR has equally uncommon design. Barrel of nominal caliber of 5.56mm, has a very slow rifling to give initial stabilisation to the fleschette, which is stabilised in flight by its own small fins. Instead of common linear-moving bolt, Steyr ACR have separate chamber (breech block), which can be moved up and down. The whole action is powered by gas drive, which has annual gas piston, located around the barrel. To understand this system i will explain how it works:
    at first, lets suppose that chamber is empty and rifle is manually cocked for the first shot. In this position the chamber block is its lowest position, aligned with the topmost round in magazine. The gas piston with its operating rod is in its rearmost position and under the pressure of the return spring. When trigger is pressed, the operating rod with gas piston are released and started forward under the pressure of the return spring, which is located around the barrel. This movement, at first, via special rammer, feeds the first round forward from magazine and into the chamber, and then, via shaped cam and breech block spring, rises the breech block with the cartridge into the topmost position. In this position the fixed firing pin passes through the hole in the top of the chamber and penetrates the cartridge wall, igniting the primer composition and firing the round. When projectile (fleschette with sabot) passes the gas port, some of powder gases began to move the gas piston back. This movement, via the operating rod and shaped cam, loweres the breech block with empty case out of alignment with barrel and down to the magazine. When breech comes to stop in the lowest position, a separate rammer feeds next cartridge forward and out of magazine, chambering it. At the same time, the fired case is pushed forward out of the chamber by the next cartridge, and when cleared from the chamber, the spent case simply falls down out of the rifle via the ejection port. The ejection port is located at the bottom of the rifle, ahead of magazine, and this eliminates one of the biggest problems of any bull-pup rifle - a non-ambidextrous (or, in this case - fully ambidextrous) ejection.

    If rifle is set to the full auto mode, the firing cycle is repeated as descibed above. Otherwise, the loaded breech remains in its lowest position, awaiting for the next trigger pull.

    This quite comprehensive action was concealed in sleek and comfortable polymer case with AUG-styled pistol grip and large ventilated upper rib with fixed sights. Optical sights also were fitted. Due to extremely high projectile velocity, flight time was very short at any practical ranges, and trajectory was wery flat, giving the shooter almost ray-gun performance, which allowed to fire withouth prior calculations of point of impact - speaking simply, at any practical combat ranges shooter will hit where it aimed, regardless target movements (projectile flight time to the target at 300 meters is about 0.2 seconds). Due to high velocity, Steyr ACR had good killing power and armour piercing capablities, and due to the low weight of the projectile recoil was low. But it was not enough to double the M16 performance, so, for now, the Steyr ACR remains in prototype or preproductional state and the program is freezed if not abandoned at all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh please, you copy & pasted that. Lemme guess.. world.guns.ru or securityarms.com You modellers always demand credit so give websits their credit. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    dude calm down, nobody wants 2 read that anyways i dont care about this gun.
    its like its designed 4 a chick, like the nissan micra
    a real tasty gun would be SA80 or the m4 w/m203, that thing is like a BMW
  • ArgOnatHArgOnatH Join Date: 2003-01-02 Member: 11720Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--00Joe+May 31 2003, 01:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (00Joe @ May 31 2003, 01:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--sheena yanai+May 28 2003, 12:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (sheena yanai @ May 28 2003, 12:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> eeewwwww  steyr acr  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->


    Caliber: 5.6 mm fleschette
    Action: Gas operated, rising breech
    Overall length: ??mm
    Barrel length: 540 mm
    Weigth: 3.23 kg w/o magazine
    Rate of fire: ?? rounds per minute
    Magazine capacity: 24 rounds


    The Advanced Combat Rifle program was started by the US Army in the late 1980s with the main goal to improve the hit probability of average infantry soldier by at least 100 percents above the M16A2 capabilities. During this trials, held in the early 1990s, some new and existing designs from several companies were tested, with more or less sucess, but no one achieved the 100% improvement in hit probablility over the existing M16 rifle, so program was terminated and all participating designs were freezed, which is pity. One of the most interesting participants was a design of the austrian company Steyr-Mannlicher AG.

    The Steyr ACR was built as an attempt to revive the fleschette ammunition concept, first tried in the 1960s during US Army SPIW program. In 1960s, the fleschette concept was a failure. In 1990s, it was much more sucessful, but not enough to be worth of total rearming to the new infantry weapon system.

    Steyr ACR is built around a specially designed cartridge of nominal caliber of 5.56mm. This cartridge has simple, cylindrically shaped plastic case. The fleschette, or dart, is totally enclosed in the case. Fleschette diameter is about 1.5 mm (.06 inch), lenght is about 41 mm (1.6 inch), weight 0.66 gramm (10 grains). Fleschette is partially enclosed into discarding sabot, and leaves the muzzle at impressive velocity of 1450 meters per second (4750 fps), still retaining velocity of 910 m/s (2980 fps) at the range of 600 meters. The plastic case had no rim or extracting groove, and priming compound is located annually at the inside wall of the case.

    To fire such uncommon cartridge, Steyr ACR has equally uncommon design. Barrel of nominal caliber of 5.56mm, has a very slow rifling to give initial stabilisation to the fleschette, which is stabilised in flight by its own small fins. Instead of common linear-moving bolt, Steyr ACR have separate chamber (breech block), which can be moved up and down. The whole action is powered by gas drive, which has annual gas piston, located around the barrel. To understand this system i will explain how it works:
    at first, lets suppose that chamber is empty and rifle is manually cocked for the first shot. In this position the chamber block is its lowest position, aligned with the topmost round in magazine. The gas piston with its operating rod is in its rearmost position and under the pressure of the return spring. When trigger is pressed, the operating rod with gas piston are released and started forward under the pressure of the return spring, which is located around the barrel. This movement, at first, via special rammer, feeds the first round forward from magazine and into the chamber, and then, via shaped cam and breech block spring, rises the breech block with the cartridge into the topmost position. In this position the fixed firing pin passes through the hole in the top of the chamber and penetrates the cartridge wall, igniting the primer composition and firing the round. When projectile (fleschette with sabot) passes the gas port, some of powder gases began to move the gas piston back. This movement, via the operating rod and shaped cam, loweres the breech block with empty case out of alignment with barrel and down to the magazine. When breech comes to stop in the lowest position, a separate rammer feeds next cartridge forward and out of magazine, chambering it. At the same time, the fired case is pushed forward out of the chamber by the next cartridge, and when cleared from the chamber, the spent case simply falls down out of the rifle via the ejection port. The ejection port is located at the bottom of the rifle, ahead of magazine, and this eliminates one of the biggest problems of any bull-pup rifle - a non-ambidextrous (or, in this case - fully ambidextrous) ejection.

    If rifle is set to the full auto mode, the firing cycle is repeated as descibed above. Otherwise, the loaded breech remains in its lowest position, awaiting for the next trigger pull.

    This quite comprehensive action was concealed in sleek and comfortable polymer case with AUG-styled pistol grip and large ventilated upper rib with fixed sights. Optical sights also were fitted. Due to extremely high projectile velocity, flight time was very short at any practical ranges, and trajectory was wery flat, giving the shooter almost ray-gun performance, which allowed to fire withouth prior calculations of point of impact - speaking simply, at any practical combat ranges shooter will hit where it aimed, regardless target movements (projectile flight time to the target at 300 meters is about 0.2 seconds). Due to high velocity, Steyr ACR had good killing power and armour piercing capablities, and due to the low weight of the projectile recoil was low. But it was not enough to double the M16 performance, so, for now, the Steyr ACR remains in prototype or preproductional state and the program is freezed if not abandoned at all. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh please, you copy & pasted that. Lemme guess.. world.guns.ru or securityarms.com You modellers always demand credit so give websits their credit. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    dont u dare attack sheena, she gets info and pics, most people could never find on the net! she is the modeeling forum godess so treat her with repsect, other wise u get a full on slap, and rejection from the community
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    edited May 2003
    If you wanna get technical, It's a saboted dart, not flechettes <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • HKKHKK Join Date: 2003-05-19 Member: 16489Members
    But still, even thou sheena yanai posts all that info i don't read it, only if im interested in the weapon its self, mainly thou i look at the picture because im lazy :E
  • JimJim Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9989Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You modellers always demand credit<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I don't like that tone, are you saying that the people who frequent these boards do not deserve their credit?
  • BurncycleBurncycle Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9759Members, NS1 Playtester
    This thread won't turn into a flaming area, take it somewhere else. If you have beef with sheena or anyone on the forum, you can PM them or go to the off topic area of the forum.

    kthx.
  • sheena_yanaisheena_yanai Join Date: 2002-12-23 Member: 11426Members
    edited May 2003
    dont get me wrong.. if i would have the time to type some infos about ,you would get more info than that ive pasted into here.
    im to busy for that.. in my very little free time i have ,i check 2 times per day this board... i dont even have the time to look in the net for pages who givin me the info.... i have a huge archive of gun reviews and scanned magazines,blueprints..explosion drawings my trainee´s scanned or downloadet from several sources the net,its so much stuff,i dont even know from where it is, its enough work to keep that archive together´,you have to see the qicksearch database we got for it.
    the digital archive is gettin near the 1 terrabyte border (pictures,text,videos,cad data for prototypes ,and the "paper" archive wont fit any longer in the 30 squaremeters archive room full with shelfes next to our studio/office...
    sometimes i ask myself why im doin this ,suportin u guys with info,and gettin flamed <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> ..i dont even have the time to play natural selection,or model something... d´oh! back to work now..

    and btw.. security arms is lame <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Owen1Owen1 Join Date: 2003-04-13 Member: 15457Members
    whoa chill every1, its just a forum 4 a mod, 4 a game. u wanna **** about sumthing, **** about life. not here and not about this.
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