Anyone Know A Way That I Can Get Another

UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
edited May 2003 in NS General Discussion
30 day trail for 3-deep?
Its goodness alows me to play the game, which it, half of all the levels are pitch black.

If anyone know a way i can get another trail, **gone**, or another program with simlair effects that would be great

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  • localhost2600localhost2600 Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10448Members
    this does not belong on the NS forums and will promptly be locked/deleted by a mod hopefully
  • airyKairyK Join Date: 2002-12-19 Member: 11126Members
    edited May 2003
    try buying it? whatever 3 deep is...................*different wording*
  • Infected_MarineInfected_Marine Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11287Members
    May I be the first to say <i>What the ****?</i>

    Not only do I have no idea what you mean, but it is so inappropriate I can tell that you shouldn't have posted this on the entirety of these forums.
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  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    edited May 2003
    3deep is a 3rd party program that helps adjust things like gamma, brightness, and color controls for best image quality. It's not too much unlike the similar application loaded with Adobe Photoshop.

    I personally recommend forgoing 3rd party programs for this altogether. No need to have more CPU cycles or RAM taken up by something you can do on your own by fiddling with your monitor's settings and using something like the MonitorsDirect ToolKit (which is free for unlimited use):

    <a href='http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/' target='_blank'>http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/</a>
    Click on "launch toolkit" and it will go fullscreen.


    In addition, I recommend staying away from so-called "haxed" or otherwise pirated/illegal copies of darn well near anything. The reasons are different for different people -- ranging from morality to computer/data security -- but pirating stuff is generally not good practice.
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    i tried this toolkit, but none of the test worked out right, and i never really saw any way to change anything.

    Even with my monitor/card/game on full gamaa/brightness it is still IMPOSSIBLE to see in most areas even with the use of a flashlight. I dont know how but this program 3deep brightened everything up to a decent, but still pretty dang dark level
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    edited May 2003
    Question: is it unusually dark just in-game, or are other games and/or plain MS Windows also dark?

    Also, you say "none of the test worked out right, and i never really saw any way to change anything." Are you sure you actually even started the tests? For each category (brightness, focus, etc.) there is that intro screen that tells you what you should look for during the test, but you have to press the orange "Go" button at the bottom yourself. During the test, use the controls on the monitor to adjust it how you should.


    Some other things to try:
    Try putting a different monitor with your computer, even if it's one you normally wouldn't like to use, and see whether things are visible in-game. If you can adjust the settings and everything works the way you want it, your original monitor may be bad. You could do the same with your video card, but it's probably not necessary.

    If your monitor and video card are fine, the only piece of hardware left to check is your eyes. No, I'm serious; the lighting in your computer room, angle at which sunlight glares off the screen, etc. may be making it hard to see anything. Try moving any lamps in the room to behind you or turning them on/off, closing/opening the blinds on windows, etc. and see which you like better.


    Also be aware that you can still use the gamma tuning program that came with Natural Selection and runs during the install. Try looking in "C:\Sierra\Half-Life\ns\gamma_tune.exe", or another path if you installed HL differently.
  • NarfNarf Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2609Members
    My friend has this problem on his old and crappy HP. The monitor is so dark he used to play AvP with the image intensifier on at ALL TIMES. And he thought that was how it was supposed to be until he saw it on my comp <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->. I tried fiddling with his monitor gamma, which was on full, his card gamma, which only affected the desktop, and some other stuff but I couldn't get his screen any brighter. Plus his monitor had that stupid hippie backround from office 60's theme burnt into it, which just made everything worse lol
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Marik_Steele+May 11 2003, 10:57 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik_Steele @ May 11 2003, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Question: is it unusually dark just in-game, or are other games and/or plain MS Windows also dark?

    Also, you say "none of the test worked out right, and i never really saw any way to change anything." Are you sure you actually even started the tests? For each category (brightness, focus, etc.) there is that intro screen that tells you what you should look for during the test, but you have to press the orange "Go" button at the bottom yourself. During the test, use the controls on the monitor to adjust it how you should.


    Some other things to try:
    Try putting a different monitor with your computer, even if it's one you normally wouldn't like to use, and see whether things are visible in-game. If you can adjust the settings and everything works the way you want it, your original monitor may be bad. You could do the same with your video card, but it's probably not necessary.

    If your monitor and video card are fine, the only piece of hardware left to check is your eyes. No, I'm serious; the lighting in your computer room, angle at which sunlight glares off the screen, etc. may be making it hard to see anything. Try moving any lamps in the room to behind you or turning them on/off, closing/opening the blinds on windows, etc. and see which you like better.


    Also be aware that you can still use the gamma tuning program that came with Natural Selection and runs during the install. Try looking in "C:\Sierra\Half-Life\ns\gamma_tune.exe", or another path if you installed HL differently. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    its realy really dark in all games, but on the desktop i can change it around fine.

    what i mean by they didnt work was that with my monirot contols i was never able to set it to what it was asking

    using a differnt monitor fixes the problem, but i dont have acces to any other ones. I had the program 3deep for a 30 day trail and everything was great



    Also i allready tried using HL and NS's gamma corection
  • RoscoeRoscoe Join Date: 2002-11-29 Member: 10221Members
    I really like powerstrip. Its trial version is free for unlimited use and it uses very little cpu/memory. Just search google or download.com for it.

    Some of us with really, really crappy monitors are forced to either use 3rd party programs or play blind.
  • Candy_ManCandy_Man Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9331Members
    I have 3deep I got it with my voodoo4 ( <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo--> ) It hasnt really done much good for me. I used to play TFC and CS with 50gamma/50brightness but with NS I do 80 with each and I can usually see fine, sometimes 90 brightness on really dark levels like nothing nancy and bast. I have a Samsung 17' monitor been working quite well for me. Though I know some monitors at full brightness/gamma do didly squat for NS and are still horendously dark, usually on older monitors so I would suggest investing on a new monitor.
  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    Use Powerstrip nubcake.

    It's free, it lasts forever (or at least the new reinstall), it's flexible and it uses almost no resources.

    Most IT professionals I know use it, as do many gamers.

    Just google it, I'm not your mom.

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  • TryonTryon Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7040Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--UnderDOG+May 11 2003, 11:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDOG @ May 11 2003, 11:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--UnderDog+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UnderDog)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->its realy really dark in all games, but on the desktop i can change it around fine.

    what i mean by they didnt work was that with my monirot contols i was never able to set it to what it was asking

    using a differnt monitor fixes the problem, but i dont have acces to any other ones.  I had the program 3deep for a 30 day trail and everything was great



    Also i allready tried using HL and NS's gamma corection <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I had this same problem myself. Called in tech support and they had me do a couple of little tests and we figured out that the monitor was going bad. That's <i>exactly</i> what it sounds like is happening to you. Everything is dark on your monitor but shows up just fine on others. You might want to start saving up some cash to buy a new one if possible. <a href='http://www.pricewatch.com' target='_blank'>Price Watch</a> has some good monitors reasonably priced or just keep your eyes out for sales in your area.
  • CowswinCowswin Join Date: 2003-03-17 Member: 14623Banned, Constellation
    If he's asking for a haxored copy of a program I severly doubt he's going to fork out the money for an extra monitor instead of just BUYING the program he loves so much which probably costs a whole $20.

    My $0.02

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  • MoquiaoMoquiao Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16168Members
    i agree with twisted... but.. why not fork out the $20.. it ownt kill ya..
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    The only reason this topic hasn't been locked is because people have responded with legal alternatives. Please note that warez are NOT allowed on these forums.
  • UnderDOGUnderDOG Join Date: 2003-04-05 Member: 15221Members
    if i gotta get a monitor i might as well start saving now <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->
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