Friendly Fire

CatnapCatnap Join Date: 2003-04-04 Member: 15177Members
in General Server Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">I need support inorder to get Flayra....</div> my original post about this topic was <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=29434' target='_blank'>here</a>

And Flayra said that if I had enough of you guys supporting the idea of allowing FF to be implemented in 1.1 without having tournament mode on. Then he would put that in to 1.1...... So post away if you support it.
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  • Eternal_BlissEternal_Bliss Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7633Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    edited April 2003
    Sure, you got my support.
    but if he will either add this or the new logging system i prefer the logging system.
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  • PodPod Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5745Members
    aye
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  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    wooooooo

    FF as an option would be ubercool
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  • Sgt_AstroSgt_Astro Join Date: 2002-12-21 Member: 11311Members
    edited April 2003
    On any public server: *Skulk runs into Marine base* *All marines die except the guy at the back, who is outta ammo (after killing team) and gets eaten. Game over!

    So long as you can turn it off, I can't see why not. I doubt it would be very popular though.

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  • SpiritMasterSpiritMaster Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7580Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    You have my vote.
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  • Asylum-SkitzoAsylum-Skitzo Join Date: 2003-02-08 Member: 13254Members
    FF is being begged for in my community. Most are clan players and want to practise for tournaments with mine placement that wont hurt teammates and less spam more accuracy.

    Couple of times Ive put the server into tournament mode for this feature alone, its annoying having to say ready and not being able to change names and other things. Would rather standard play mode with FF.
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    I'm all for it, but I would rather see the log changes implimented first, and make sure that it can be turned off...
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  • EvilGrinEvilGrin Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6851Members
    me too. But I'd also like mirror damage and armour/health only FF modes. As per TFCs mp_teamplay configuration variable.
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  • HoundDawgHoundDawg Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3362Members
    I've been wanting and asking for mp_friendlyfire since day 1. I got tired of asking for it. But, hopefully, it'll be implemented for v1.1 as it'll definately add to gameplay and hopefully help in the ballance of things.

    No, the tournament mode is definately not a good option for FF in pub servers. It may work in matches, but definately not in public servers. There are plenty of anti-TK addons to use in order to counter llamas, so that's not a concern either.

    So, YES, you definately have my vote on this. Maybe should start a poll thread instead?
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  • KalmahKalmah Join Date: 2003-02-28 Member: 14143Members
    Friendly fire on all the time would be bad of course, but I'm all in favor of admins being able to toggle it on and off.
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  • AnimosityAnimosity Join Date: 2003-01-03 Member: 11768Members
    yes put ff in publics ffs ...... so boring without actually having to watch your aim ...
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  • playerhaterplayerhater Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8405Members
    FF has my vote.
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  • MOMBorisMOMBoris Join Date: 2003-03-22 Member: 14777Members
    FF option would be AWESOME!
    You have my vote!

    Marine dies by own turret trying to kill Onos...
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  • CoREJayFiveCoREJayFive Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13479Members, Constellation
    vote: yes
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  • CheesyPetezaCheesyPeteza Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9784Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    YES

    I suggested some cvars for it (basically the CS ones), in the suggestions and ideas forum but it was lost under all the crazy ideas in about 10 minutes. :o

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=29266' target='_blank'>More svars/cvars</a> or whatever they're called. :/
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  • HtNickoliHtNickoli Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9786Members
    My 2 Cents = Yes.
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  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    yes, although it should be off as default.
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  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    I vote "yes" for an independent FF toggle. Adjustable damage to teammates would be a bonus.

    However, if a FF toggle would delay 1.1 significantly, I defer my FF vote to version 1.11 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    I say yes again... funny, same thread in general discussion got 50/50, whereas here its 100% for.
    "Now what can we learn of this experience, children?"
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  • TechwidTechwid Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8440Members, Constellation
    I don't like playing FF but I know there are those who do. So like many have said as long as the server has the choice, I vote yes.
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  • SuicideDogSuicideDog Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8104Members
    cvar ff would be nice.. once that is enabled I'm sure we could make plugins ourselves that work just like atac for CS/DOD. To my knowledge, just about every CS and DOD server that has FF on runs some kind of atac plugin. Flayra if you do allow this option, trying to do some built-in atac would be a waste of time for you. Most ppl are way to picky about how they control the ff on thier server. This I think falls along the same lines as trying to put a built in admin control system.. Why reinvent the wheel when there are already so many shapes and sizes.

    I know you like work extremely hard in making the game play almost perfect so ppl won't feel the need to mod your game, but keep in mind one of the reasons that HL mods are so popular is the fact that it's an open enough system that it allows admins to personalize their servers. People like to be unique and feel special. While I agree that a lot of the game aspects should be locked down, I also think that we should have a little freedom.
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  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    i think we need an offical poll for this instead of 30000+ posts of "yes" and "no"
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  • TechwidTechwid Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8440Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--cracker jackmac+Apr 20 2003, 01:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cracker jackmac @ Apr 20 2003, 01:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i think we need an offical poll for this instead of 30000+ posts of "yes" and "no" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I vote yes to this suggestion <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • InjuisInjuis Join Date: 2003-02-25 Member: 13955Members
    Yes yes yes yes yes. Why the hell not? Sure, it might be a pain in a **** to deal with sometimes but that's for a serverop to decide, right?
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  • dexiondexion Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5339Members
    yes please
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  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    A poll in this forum is likely to generate a near-100% "in favor". ServerOps like to have control, like to tune the gameplay to their tastes. Options make admins happy.

    A poll in general is likely to just generate noise.

    I'd love to play with friendly-fire on. My experience from CS is that FF attracts the most team-oriented gamers. FF for NS seems like a natural fit, given that teamplay is crucial to a well-played game. I've considered playing on tournamentmode servers in the hopes of finding that type of player, but (as expected) there are extremely few non-locked servers with tourney-mode on. Four right now, one of which is in the US (with a french name <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->), and all are empty. The other elements of tourney-mode don't fit well in a public setting (obviously), so I don't blame admins for not enabling it.

    Joining a competitive clan and participating in leagues just for FF is a little too much for me <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I'd love to play with FF on, but it can't realistically happen with the current options. I suspect that many other FPS veterans are in the same boat.
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  • wendigowendigo Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8371Members
    I vote yes
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  • NeoMatrixj2NeoMatrixj2 Join Date: 2002-11-22 Member: 9638Members
    Im in for it.
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  • NeroNero Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11236Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--cracker jackmac+Apr 20 2003, 02:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cracker jackmac @ Apr 20 2003, 02:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i think we need an offical poll for this instead of 30000+ posts of "yes" and "no" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    agree.
    and Yes to have the cvar <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • JoeBlowJoeBlow Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12899Members
    YES!!
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