1.1 Gonna Be Great?

NightfireTGNightfireTG Join Date: 2002-12-24 Member: 11508Members
<div class="IPBDescription">just want your opinion</div> i just want to hear your opinions about it. my search doesn't work so i'll just pos this one.

personally, after i read all of the great advantages the aliens have, my morale has drained. maybe it happened with some other people too.

if it's really gonna be bad, 2 things:
1) flayra restores the mistakes
2) i'm just leaving
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  • AsranielAsraniel Join Date: 2002-06-03 Member: 724Members, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow, Subnautica Playtester, Retired Community Developer
    im shure they will do a good playtesting.. but yes, actualy its nearly impossible to win as a alien (commom.. its true, i win EVERY game with the aliens), and with all those updates it could be even worse.. but im shure they will do a good playtesting
  • KEm1KaL1KEm1KaL1 Lerky Lerky Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13797Members
    Just because the aliens have *many* new features, does not mean that they will be unstoppable. Typical quality vs. quantity thing.

    I am sure that the testers will test fairly for quality. It is not like them to make mistakes like that.
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    I'm already worried about 1.1, but not because of what it will deliver (personally I think it looks right on track and the changes are brilliant) but because of the build-up.
    Cast your minds back o gamers, and recall a certain time when a RTS hit the market which became a massive hit. Of course, I'm referring to Command and Conquor.
    Now cast your minds back not so far and recall the game which came out after a multi-year wait and had C&C fans worldwide slathering for. Yes, I speak of C&C: Tiberium Sun
    because of the massive success of C&C, it's sequal just couldn't live up to the expectations that resulted. This is what concerns me about 1.1: too many people seem to think that it will fix everything. Of course, it may very well adress problems/concerns in NS right now. But I guareentee within a week of 1.1 being out ppl will be complaining about new "unbeatable strats" and "imbalances".
    So I think that we should a) Not place so much emphasis on 1.1 as being the solution to all of life's problems and b) actually play the patch before passing judgement. Speculation about stuff that hasn't even been playtested yet is a little pointless, and really only serves as convesation fodder.

    That doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss this stuff though and how it might change the game <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • LazerManeLazerMane Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2135Members, Constellation
    oh, let them get discouraged and bitchy if they want. At least ill have my Lerk physics *huggles his Lerk Plushie*


    ^_^

    LM
  • sendersender Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8337Members
    I'm worried about the new turret factory feature. I don't understand why it's needed.
  • MorrikMorrik Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8247Awaiting Authorization
    I really don't have an opinion because I stopped playing NS for quite some time now because of all the veteran players being arseholes to the new people trying to learn. When NS first came out, nobody knew what the hell was going on and games would last over two hours at a time. Be that as it may, I'm actually looking forward to the new patch so people can't **** and whine as much as they have currently.

    There needs to be like a tutorial server on how to play NS or something. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • echsechs Join Date: 2002-12-27 Member: 11568Members, Constellation
    I shall get back to you once 1.1 is released...
  • MonsieurEvilMonsieurEvil Join Date: 2002-01-22 Member: 4Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    1.1 will suck. Just terrible. Awful, awful crap. It will ruin everything. You should throwaway your computer now, and spare the harddrive the shame of containing NS-related clusters.

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    It will be a great improvement on 1.1. The specifics of that version number used is pretty important to understand - NS 1.1 is not designed to be a whole new version of NS. It's designed to massage it, to fix problems, to change some things, to add depth. It will have more new maps (perhaps more than the 3 mentioned on the post). Existing maps will run much faster and have gameplay improvements as well. A commander will now be less involved in fighting his interface and more involved in directing his troops. There will be things added that were supposed to be in 1.0 and the clock ran out. There will be nice visual improvements and eye-candy. There will be equipment and upgrade changes. The resource model will be altered - this is huge and that's not yet really understand I think by most fans. Many other things will happen that are more subtle, or not even listed in the changelog on the main page.

    All of this combines to make 1.1 closer to the vision of what Flayra was hoping for with 1.0. When work begins on 2.0, you will see the truly massive alterations that everyone fears (incorrectly) about 1.1. From the plans I have seen, it's rather monumental in scope.

    1.0 got people in. 1.1 will keep them, and get many more. 2.0 will leverage what everyone knows to become far closer to the true vision.
  • NecroNecro &lt;insert non-birthday-related title here&gt; Join Date: 2002-08-09 Member: 1118Members
    i try to think of 1.1 as a boost as dod got from 1.3 to 2.0.

    also i think it'll be very balanced cause flay loves us..and i want his babies D:
  • RR_Co-NRR_Co-N Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10524Members
    offcourse its going to be great.

    Natural selection blew my socks off when i first read about it. Ns rocked when i saw the first screens and i didnt leave the house when it was released. Now every update changes the entire style of play which can only be fun and interesting. I just dont get it why people ALWAYS complain on EVERY mod when its going to update. I cant wait to play 1.1 because its going to be new tactics and toys and thats fun. We havent even reached 2.0 yet and people are allready talking about the good old days.....These ARE the good old days.
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    People are TERRIFIED of change....

    Get out of your caves, and start embracing change <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    (I sound like a hippy!)
  • BlackSeerBlackSeer Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2204Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GWAR+Mar 27 2003, 06:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GWAR @ Mar 27 2003, 06:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> People are TERRIFIED of change....

    Get out of your caves, and start embracing change <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    (I sound like a hippy!) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Very true, still stone age for some people <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • AphonAphon Join Date: 2002-12-04 Member: 10442Members
    edited March 2003
    <b>Look at me and laugh, I know not what comes out of this mouth.</b>
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Aphon+Mar 27 2003, 07:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aphon @ Mar 27 2003, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i just hope they dont have the same ppl testing for balance <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Dont insult Playtesters.... They have been playin the game longer than you <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • Butt_monkey_saladButt_monkey_salad Join Date: 2002-12-17 Member: 11006Banned
    edited March 2003
    yesyesyes!!

    NS will be the 2nd or even 1st greatest thing that has happened to me since Goldeneye 007!! <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Ill probably celebrate with some Jimmy Buffet while playing on the day of NS 1.1 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--EnemyATheGates+Mar 27 2003, 11:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EnemyATheGates @ Mar 27 2003, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i just want to hear your opinions about it. my search doesn't work so i'll just pos this one.

    personally, after i read all of the great advantages the aliens have, my morale has drained. maybe it happened with some other people too.

    if it's really gonna be bad, 2 things:
    1) flayra restores the mistakes
    2) i'm just leaving <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You know why your search didn't find anything...

    <b>Because people with an ounce of wisdom wouldn't form an opinion from purely speculation and a <i>rough and tentative</i> changelog.</b>

    This thread really aggrevates me.
  • ApplicatorApplicator Join Date: 2002-12-06 Member: 10515Members
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--GWAR+Mar 27 2003, 01:39 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GWAR @ Mar 27 2003, 01:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> People are TERRIFIED of change....

    Get out of your caves,  and start embracing change <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    (I sound like a hippy!) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That does sound kind of funny coming from a guy who named himself after the Scumdogs of the Universe. I bet there aren't a whole lot of GWAR fans around. GWAR rules!

    <b>Ridiculous edit:</b> GWAR is one of my all time favorites. I met Odorous back-stage once too.
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Aphon+Mar 27 2003, 07:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aphon @ Mar 27 2003, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i just hope they dont have the same ppl testing for balance <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeh man, totally. That last group of PTs were horrible - they should get you to PT since you have proven that you can construct constructive feedback by your awesome post. I hope you are the one making sure 1.1 is the best game it can be!
  • SquiffySquiffy Join Date: 2003-02-05 Member: 13160Members
    I can't wait for 1.1. A usable Lerk, a sensory tower that has uses other than the bog standard three in one of the hives, hotkeys for marines ...... come on, embrace the evolution and enjoy. If the gameplay changes, FIND ANOTHER WAY TO WIN!!!!!! <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • EplekongenEplekongen Join Date: 2002-11-16 Member: 8915Members
    I just want all cloacked buildings to become visible for about 5 seconds after you damage it.
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I have supreme confidence that the dev team will make 1.1 a very enjoyable experience for all. And to all the people complaining about the changes before they're even finished PTing - wait til 1.1 is out, *then* complain.
  • Umbraed_MonkeyUmbraed_Monkey Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9922Members
    Its kinda ironic that fans of a game called 'Natural Selection' aren't embracing an evolution.
  • SinSpawnSinSpawn Harbinger of Suffering Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8359Members
    lol by the update on NS i am expecting GREAT gameplay as the same with DOD 4.0 and CS 1.6, <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> how can HL mods get any better <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> o and also Svencoop 2.5
  • see-you-in-disney-landsee-you-in-disney-land Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3241Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SinSpawn+Mar 28 2003, 12:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SinSpawn @ Mar 28 2003, 12:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol by the update on NS i am expecting GREAT gameplay as the same with DOD 4.0 and CS 1.6, <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> how can HL mods get any better <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> o and also Svencoop 2.5 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (and so on)

    CS MENTIONED NO!! NO!!! DON'T MAKE ME GO BACK!!!! THIS IS MY ESCAPE FROM THE PAIN OF CS! (it is also how I spend most of my free time, i don't need friends, I have you guys! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )
  • LazerManeLazerMane Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2135Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--MonsieurEvil+Mar 27 2003, 06:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MonsieurEvil @ Mar 27 2003, 06:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1.1 will suck. Just terrible. Awful, awful crap. It will ruin everything. You should throwaway your computer now, and spare the harddrive the shame of containing NS-related clusters. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I was thinking.... hody crap! Wait.. ive seen this avatar before. Hes a superadmin! WHOA! BLASPHEMY! I was all ready to grab my pick-axe and torch to lead a march on you when i saw the

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    XD

    LM
  • GWARGWAR Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2297Members, Contributor
    <!--QuoteBegin--Umbraed Monkey+Mar 28 2003, 12:21 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Umbraed Monkey @ Mar 28 2003, 12:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Its kinda ironic that fans of a game called 'Natural Selection' aren't embracing an evolution. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You said it best, You get a cookie.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    1.1 will kick arse, this I am convinced of
  • BarxBaronBarxBaron Join Date: 2003-02-02 Member: 13031Members
    edited March 2003
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Its kinda ironic that fans of a game called 'Natural Selection' aren't embracing an evolution. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->


    OMG thats my new sig! bahahaha

    I'll quote you of course tho <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BarxBaronBarxBaron Join Date: 2003-02-02 Member: 13031Members
    sorry....I'm just a sucker for irony <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    1.1 is gonna roxors joor boxors, I base this on one simple thing.....


    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=26885' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/in...=ST&f=8&t=26885</a>
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