Chambers Associations To Lost Hives

TheGlow

heres a question
you have waste handling, and you have fusion
waste has defense associated with it
fusion has movement
you lose fusion. but you take sat com
can you build move at sat com?
or is it stuck to fusion and you have to go sensory?

FireStorm

You can go for movement. But if you have 3 movement chambers secured, I suggest you to go sensory because you'll have all 3 abilities with 2 hives.

ZiGGY

yes and do so because its more useful to have a mc in the other hive than sens upgs

AIRinc_FaReZ

unless you lost your dc hive. if you lose your dc hive its better to continue with dc and forego sc. made that mistake once and we found out we couldnt take out the other teams base without dcs backing. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

TheHornet

yes. you can build movements. And i would do it, those things come in handy when marines are attacking your hives constantly.

ZiGGY

or if you blink into the floor lol

Rion

your new hive will automaticaly take the tech of whatever hive isn't taking the space for it.. so you'll be forced to use movement.. no sensory till you get your third hive up

JazzX

We seem to have contradictory answers in this thread, so I ran a LAN game to confirm what I suspected. If you lose a hive that has an upgrade associated with it you still have access to abilities granted by said upgrade as long as the appropriate towers still exist (new towers cannot be built however). Furthermore when you build your next hive you can choose to associate either the upgrade that was previously assigned to the now defunct hive OR you can choose to go with the third upgrade giving your team access to all three abilities with only two hives.

As the thread indicates the real question is when it would be appropriate to go for X on the next hive when the Hive associated with Y goes down (X and Y being the different upgrade types).

TeoH

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Remember that when running a LAN game, if you have not downloaded the additional server files for the latest version then you are actually running on an outdated version. Without the 1.04 server files, any game you host will be outdated. Now to direct attention to something in the changelogs:

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- When hive is constructed, have it check to see if technology should be supported automatically (exploit for getting extra upgrades after a hive is killed and rebuilt)
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That is from the 1.04 patch changes (The patch which you wont have if you are running a LAN without new server files). That quote sounds like it supports rion's post, personnally i can't test this at the moment because i'm stuck at work. I'm just pointing out the possible potholes you could have fallen into when testing on a LAN.

JazzX

I should have stated this in my original post, but my brain doesn't seem to function at 100% after I get off of work...

When I ran the LAN game I was running with the v1.04 patch files installed. That said I also used sv_cheats 1 so I could build the hives and chambers, evolve, switch sides to kill the hive, etc. And who knows if messing with the sv_cheats variable affected my results.

But I will also say that I swear I've seen exactly what my LAN game demonstrated while playing on 1.04 servers before. However I'm having a heck of a time remembering exactly how the situation resolved itself.

That_Annoying_Kid

movement comes in handy when those pesky marines insist on attacking your hives, and your at the point of the map farthest from the hive under attack, but you shouldn't be able to build the chamber associated w/ the hive if the hive is down

Cypher

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Not true...And JazzX is perfectly right

ekent

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- When hive is constructed, have it check to see if technology should be supported automatically (exploit for getting extra upgrades after a hive is killed and rebuilt)
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That is from the 1.04 patch changes (The patch which you wont have if you are running a LAN without new server files). That quote sounds like it supports rion's post, personnally i can't test this at the moment because i'm stuck at work. I'm just pointing out the possible potholes you could have fallen into when testing on a LAN. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've never seen a hive retake an existing tech, and believe me, I've played 1.04 games extensively. I know Flayra has said he wants this, but it clearly doesn't work yet.