What I See Less And Less Of. . .

hoju2 · March 2003

is bashing the Commander. Unless the Commander is either purposefuully being a jerk or a complete n00b I haven't seen Marines yelling at a Comm in a long time. I think this is a direct result of the previous circumstances where Comms were blamed for every loss, now most Marines are afraid of the Comm chair and therefore don't insult a person doing a job they are too frightened to do themselves.

All in all an improvement for the NS community.

Narf · March 2003

I don't think it's an improvement that everyone is afraid to jump in the chair, i think that is because they are deathy afraid that they MIGHT recieve criticism even though they don't give their commander any anymore.

Bnap · March 2003

Excessively ripping your comm or being afraid of him are both pretty dumb.
I think it will eventually settle down to some sort of happy medium, but for now people do seem to be afraid of the comm. It will probably flipflop a few more times before it stops, to what degree it ever does.

Catpoker · March 2003

i love to comm....

as long as the team does what i say we usually win

(i play at CoFR now, 9v9)

BarxBaron · March 2003

what I have seen MORE of lately is arrogant, bi***y comms:

"build this, n00b"

"WTH moron get out corner" (while waiting for him to drop a PG so you dont stand on the open and are easily seen)

"omg you guys are n00bs, you couldnt take on those *outrageous # of skulks* with 3 of you?!?"

etc etc.

Actually I kinda think they are funny.........its pretty sad imo <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

Farsight · March 2003

One game I had on eclipse I went marine. As the round started this guy jumped in the cc and built 3 more cc. The thing is no one said anything and just went and built them. I was the only one who said to the com what he think he was doing.
Ive noticed a lot now that marines just blindly follow orders even if it’s a really bad order. I usually try to advise the com if I see something not right I tell the com, but people are doing this less.

Dead_Dragon · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BarxBaron @ Mar 10 2003, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
"omg you guys are n00bs, you couldnt take on those *outrageous # of skulks* with 3 of you?!?"

etc etc.

Actually I kinda think they are funny.........its pretty sad imo <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Ok, but what about:

"omg you guys are n00bs, you couldnt take on that 1 skulk with *outrageous # of marines* of you?!?"

BarxBaron · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Ok, but what about:

"omg you guys are n00bs, you couldnt take on that 1 skulk with *outrageous # of marines* of you?!?"
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well in that case, its warranted <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

but theres somethin' wrong when a com b****es about every single little thing........my fav is when they put a TF in a retarded spot......the turrets around the TF in an even MORE retarded spot.......then get mad if the damn thing dies to 2 smart skulks when the marine team is elsewhere and busy taking a hive, etc.

Church · March 2003

Today I officially had my first n00b come into our server while I was comming on ns_HERA and immediately asked for HA/HMG even though I barely had anough resources for one HMG. I was busy trying to kill the seconds hive with JP/HMG. A few minutes later when we finally did manage to take down a hive, the n00b, named Ninja, was STILL in base, saying, "comm, i'm WAITING for my HA/HMG." My clannies started yelling at him at that point. Too bad the aliens all f4ed at the point too.

XCan · March 2003

I believe this has comed with experience. When NS was new everyone thought comming was a easy thing to do. Now when they've tried some themselves they've probably realised that this is not the case.. Let's just say NS has begun to mature. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Tinker · March 2003

I'm REALLY bad at comm...I still do it and I tell everyone I'm new....they never give me any advice though. Gah it's so annoying to be new clueless and people won't even ask for help or gove advice.

ZoKHiZ · March 2003

being commander is good, if team listends u and does what you tell them...other wise, it's living h*ll....

Commander: BEHIND YOU MARINES...

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='skulk.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='siege.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif'>

they dont listen..get bitten by skulk, for what..i want to kill gorge..hihihi it's mine...

qweazdak · March 2003

I wouldnt mind learning how to comm but the servers I play on most of the time there is a good commander that can do the job better than me. There was also an influx of new players when NS got popular and many of them got yelled at by more experienced players. They probably learned from that experience.

Archzai · March 2003

bah i personally am sorta afraid too especailly when there is so much competition in this game and where i play everyone knows me and i sorta feel like they are watching me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> and yeah if i have a bad team and i screw up as comm my rep is tainted and no one will believe it was the marine team fault... and then some other guy lets say BOB who always flames me will step in .. ahve an easy **** time cuz his team is good and forever hack at me about it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> never happened but something like taht must be going thru ppls mind..
ITS A HEAVY respoinsibliyt <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

Kid-A · March 2003

I had an AWFUL couple of games. Firstly we had an NSplayer comm, he made ip's, then TF and a turret. I thought, ok so far typical poor public commanding, then he made 2 SEIGES!!!!! He then got voted out...

Then another person got in saying he was a 'good comm'. He said 'waypoints aren't working' but we went where he told us. He didn't know the 'jump' trick and said 'it says base under attack, how do i find where?'. Another thing he got full upgrades and when we said 'get HA' he said 'I have'. TBH he wasn't that bad a comm, obviously we lost. However next game I commed, I WP'ed him to outside a hive and dropped a PG, he said 'What does this do?'! I just thought OMG. I didn't flame him, its not his fault he's new, but trying to comm when you don't know what a PG is? next to impossible.

taboofires · March 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tinker @ Mar 11 2003, 05:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I'm REALLY bad at comm...I still do it and I tell everyone I'm new....they never give me any advice though. Gah it's so annoying to be new clueless and people won't even ask for help or gove advice.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Learn to comm by example and reading the forums extensively. Pay attention to what different commanders build in base, where and when.

Mid-game, it's really hard for someone to coach you thru commanding, esp when things get crazy. I learned to comm first by playing with bots until I had a good feel for the interface (and got my binds the way I wanted them), then I started comming on small pubs and with my clannies (replace with random friends or anyone who will give you advice if not clanned).

If everyone is at least good enuf to be a mediocre comm, I'd be happy. A bad comm really holds you down, but you can combine a decent comm and a few good marines to actually get some stuff done. Lacking either of these, you'll just end up camping base until the aliens have 3 hives, which isn't exactly all that fun.

Oh, and learn how to selectively listen to your marines. Pay attention to the ones that are being useful, and make mental note of those who ask you for really dumb things (turrets at some backwater res, HA/HMG in first 3 min of game, etc.) The marines who've been around a while have a good idea of the techs and toys they'll need to get the job done, and if you give it to them, they will <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> Most of the time the marines that ask for more static upgrades are in the know, because I've never seen a noob request anything of the like.

OttoDestruct · March 2003

I get yelled at a lot, because I yell at my idiot marines. One game I was comming I started handing out weapons and armor to people, and gave them all a waypoint to the enemy hive. Now probably 3/4 of my team went the correct way, but there was that other fourth which went the complete opposite way. I called them idiots, gave them the waypoint again, and told them to go there right away. Next thing I know their all dead from three skulks. I ignore this and go back to my smart team, finish killing off the hive, and lo and behold what do I see in the text area I've been ignoring. "COMM GIMME HMG!" "COMM HA HA HA! HMG!! n0wZ0rZ!!!" So I tell them that their a bunch of *CENSORED*, then they say that its the other way around, even though I was winning the game, I was the person that was a *CENSORED*. They proceeded to eject me and they lost the game for us.

DrSuredeath · March 2003

Well, in the beginning, comming was really really easy with that outrageous resource bug and lag.

The marines were literally walking on turrets into the hive while shooting at the aliens with 1000ping.
Then 1.02 came, with it... the wall of lame, resource bug fixed, fades beefed up... Commanding is haaaard and no one wanna jump in.

ZiGGY · March 2003

Im not bothered about going comm but if the game >6 people all Ill agree to build are rts, armouries(yes plural), ips & shotguns

What I See Less And Less Of. . .

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