For Those Who Never Knew If The Nuke Existed

Heist · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription">It really did exist</div> Just thought some people might be curious.

<a href='http://www.gamespy.com/goty2002/pc/index15.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.gamespy.com/goty2002/pc/index15.shtml</a>

Okabore · February 2003

Does any one have any screenies of the bomb in action that is not from the commanders view? Would be fun to see <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Ollj · February 2003

Of course the nuke existed.
It got removed because there was nothing against a nuke rush, building tons of turrets at marine spawn and wait till you can effort 2-3 nukes for each hive and you had won.

Silver_Fox · February 2003

funny thing is, thats not even a picture of the nuke, thats just a grenade going off ...

you see, you never saw the nuke explosion, just <b>alot</b> of white ... ^_^

Shockeh · February 2003

Like the Shadow Warrior nuke?

"You no mess with Lo Wang!"

Nemesis_Zero · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Feb 12 2003, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> you see, you never saw the nuke explosion, just <b>alot</b> of white ... ^_^  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Actually, by this, it was the most accurate nuke GFX to date.

Slycaster · February 2003

Not to mention the ENTIRE map rumbled after the nuke was detonated.

Heist · February 2003

It was just a link to show some people who either had never heard of it or never thought it was true that it was really there. I have heard discussions about it and I was just interested.

Draxo · February 2003

i'm glad they removed it.. a griefer/lamers weapon.. way too open for abuse

Slycaster · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Draxo @ Feb 12 2003, 10:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> i'm glad they removed it.. a griefer/lamers weapon.. way too open for abuse  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
In the state that it was in..yes, but that doesn't mean it can't be changed. You may see a return of it in a future version. =)

Ph0enix · February 2003

I would like to see it make its way back in one form or an other. It falls into the <b>'Way too cool to not include'</b> category <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Morose · February 2003

Aye, with some limits on it to prevent abuse, I could see the reintroduction of the nuke being a lot of fun. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Heck, just to be able to say, "Someone set us up the bomb" after losing to one as aliens would be priceless. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>

MMZ_Torak · February 2003

This was being discussed alot the other day. <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=22609' target='_blank'>Check It</a>.

mojojojo · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Feb 12 2003, 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Feb 12 2003, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> you see, you never saw the nuke explosion, just <b>alot</b> of white ... ^_^ </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Actually, by this, it was the most accurate nuke GFX to date.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Pah, Mega-lo-mania did a screen going white thing when the nuclear weapons were used, accompanied by a scientist bloke going "We nuked them!". That was 12 years ago (I think).

Dunkin_Dynamite · February 2003

wow, old icons gfx > present ones.

Hey, is it possible to check out some of the old versions of maps? Would be interesting for variety and novelty but also I am curious as to how the maps changed.

Silver_Fox · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Feb 12 2003, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Silver Fox @ Feb 12 2003, 03:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> you see, you never saw the nuke explosion, just <b>alot</b> of white ... ^_^ </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'>
Actually, by this, it was the most accurate nuke GFX to date.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
eh, didnt say it was a bad thing ...

<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

uranium_235 · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Heist @ Feb 12 2003, 11:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> It was just a link to show some people who either had never heard of it or never thought it was true that it was really there. I have heard discussions about it and I was just interested.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
I dunno how you could NOT know about it, there seems to be 2 - 3 repetative posts a day about this stupid subject...

KMO · February 2003

If it's such a stupid subject, explain your icon...

uranium_235 · February 2003

My avatar doesn't seem to spam the forums with repetative posts, does it?

Heist · February 2003

I had heard about it but I didn't know if it was true. I found this picture and posted it. Lighten up.

doctopepa · February 2003

No we want to fight! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Cool nuke. To bad... Or maybe not, i guess.

juice · February 2003

*I* didn't hear about it, probably because I don't read all the new posts every day... and someone told me nuke command was really gl command so I ignored nuke posts until now. Anyway, I think nuke has AWESOME potential. It could definitely add some variety to the games. I don't see why it couldn't be priced expensive enough (or take long enough) that marines couldn't just turret up in their base and easily win. It might actually be possible to make 3rd hive enhancements more than just a way to end the game quickly once it's clear aliens have won. Imagine: you're holding out for the ability to nuke all the hives at once, while onos are charging all over your base. Just 30 more seconds and we win! Or we lose! That's it, no more chances. Most of the games as Marines consist of simply prolonging the inevitable, once the 2 hive stage of the game is well under way. There must be a way to add nuke back into the game and not make it a cheap way to win, because the "either-or" of marine strategies, i.e. pg rush or jp/hmg rush, is kind of getting tired.
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'> <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tiny.gif'>
<img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif'>
I think as it is, only aliens have a real ability to make a comeback. If marines lose 2 hives, it's pretty much over, unless you've secured a lot of resources... not likely. But if the marines have two hives, aliens still have a decent chance of taking one out. Maybe nuke isn't the way to provide a chance for marine comebacks, but it could add something good.

uranium_235 · February 2003

Maybe it's just me but when this topic was started about four posts below it was a post titled 'What is the nuke?' and every other day there's a post 'what's this 'nuke' command?' and 'put teh n00k bak in!'

Lindstrom · February 2003

Were here, were queer we don't want any more bears!...wait...i mean No Nukes No Nukes No Nukes! Now lets hear it from Kim
Jong II!....Kim?...Hello?...oh ****

Lord_Requiem · February 2003

Did I not also notice a flamethrower in that commander view build list? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>

RyoOhki · February 2003

Uranium just because they took the nuke out before doesn't mean we can't discuss ways to implement it. I mean the original idea was quite unbalanced, but some of the others that have been thrown around are quite good. Please don't automatically dismiss people who suggest it come back in. I believe with good testing and balancing a nuke could be quite viable in gameplay terms.

coil · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (^Requiem^ @ Feb 14 2003, 04:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Did I not also notice a flamethrower in that commander view build list? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
What people think is a flamethrower is a placeholder icon for the welder; no more.

mikachu · February 2003

in regards to the actual build menu itself, what is everything? i mean, as far as i can tell, this is what is shown:

ammo health mines

weird looking box? welder shottie

the nade launcher as a hmg? the early nade launcher? the previously mentioned nuke..

the items with question marks next to them deserve contemplation, at least. this thread is in regard to the linked picture... the pictures under media on the main page feature the old menu anyhow, thus more questions.

mika

Supernorn · February 2003

another day...another nuke post...another flame...is this the 'balancing' post of the future?!

Ankan · February 2003

Check the skills.cfg in your ns folder and you'll find it, and some other things I'm too lazy to ask what is it............

Nukes.... LoL.

Pssst: It says at the top: DO NOT MESS WITH THIS or something like that, right? Ignore it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif'> . You can change the spawn time, res every tick, research time, cost and MUCH More. Only works on LAN, but it's fun to have 100000 res at the start at as Marine <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> , or build 2 Hives at the start and got WOL's everywhere after 10 min.... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'> Ignore the DO NOT MESS WITH THIS, I've changed REALLY much in it at it doesn't affect my game. Save a backup just incase <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'> .

Now I'm busy.... *sings*

For Those Who Never Knew If The Nuke Existed

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