Call To Server Admins...would You Ban A Disruptive

QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
edited February 2003 in General Server Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Player who keeps harrasing others?</div> E.G.Some guy named "Bob" comes into the server you admin/own,picks a name off the score board and keeps using sarcastic comments to say that this player sucks(lets say,that hes a regular at the server,hes your friend,and you know he doesnt suck).Lets call the victim "John Doe".Bob continues for 1 month(assuming you dont stop him the moment he starts the harrasing routine).John Doe eventually askes you,the admin/owner of the server,to please take action.

Assuming you stopped the harrasment right away....

Would you do something RESEMBLING this :

1.Warning.

2.Kick

3.Temp ban

4.Permanent ban.

If not,please list what you would do.

Assuming you didnt take action immediately,what would you do when John Doe askes you for help?

Would you :

A.Tell him to "SUYF","stop whining" and say "its your fault,you suck!".

B.Take action,perhaps following the format i listed above?Or perhaps an outright permanent ban seeing as how the harrasment has been going on for a MONTH.

Edit : Swear word filter is filtering out the short form for "shut the -".

Comments

  • VadakillVadakill The Almighty BSO Join Date: 2002-04-02 Member: 373Members, NS1 Playtester
    I've had the same experience as you in times past, now I take a firmer approach to lamers:

    1) Bob, your constant rude and disruptive comments are not condoned on this sever, you are banned here.
    2) admin_ban bob

    Every day you let that person harrass your players is a day a potential cool player could be turned off to your server. Get rid of the sour apples before your server goes rotten.

    Vadakill
  • QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Vadakill+Feb 11 2003, 04:29 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Vadakill @ Feb 11 2003, 04:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I've had the same experience as you in times past, now I take a firmer approach to lamers:

    1) Bob, your constant rude and disruptive comments are not condoned on this sever, you are banned here.
    2) admin_ban bob

    Every day you let that person harrass your players is a day a potential cool player could be turned off to your server.  Get rid of the sour apples before your server goes rotten.

    Vadakill<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I am very impressed by your fast response.Server forum isnt exactly the most active forum on NS forums here.

    I would like to add something.

    Would you,as the admin,accept Bob's argument that he should be NOT be banned because "it is his fault because if he didnt suck,i wouldnt say he sucked.He should stop sucking and stop whining!"
  • DuckDuck Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9195Members
    we all sucked once. Noone has the right to go in a server and verbally harass anyone. Someone on these forums has a sig that says something like "If you don't like the commander, eject him and do it yourself. If your marines can't shoot, get out of the comm chair and do it yourself" (I know that's not exactly what it says). Since John Doe is my friend, I would obviously not care that he sucks, as long as he's having fun. Otherwise I'd tell my friend John to go back to playing the Sims. Who is Bob to judge whether someone else sucks or not? Is he the 1337est ns player out there?
  • dexiondexion Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5339Members
    Bob, the server rules (which are in the motd) clearly state what you are doing is a no.no.

    ok bobby you were warned (kick)

    third time its a ban.
    dex
    Depending on what he is doing, 2nd time could be a ban also.
  • EpochEpoch Join Date: 2002-10-10 Member: 1474Members
    edited February 2003
    I wouldn't let it go on for a month. Kick with a warning. If he comes back, perma-ban with an explanation to accompany punishment.

    <b>Edit:</b> I thought I'd add that on my server, a kick is a warning, and it's the only one you get.
  • QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
    So far,all the responses are that the admin in question will take action.

    If this was a poll,it would clearly indicate that this is the normal response.

    Hmm....ah well just my luck to have to play on ill-admined servers.
  • ZdroneZdrone Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3914Members, Constellation
    I ban if their name contains an E.

    In the cases of a disruptive player, I would make an exception.

    Im quick to ban. If a player wants back on my server bad enough, they will email me with a nice (sometimes not so nice) explanation of why they shouldnt be banned. 90% of the time, I will remove the ban. Rarely do I have to ban the person a second time.

    If they don't email, well, theres plenty of other servers to play on. I don't make a dime off my servers, and to me, the time and effort put in to running them doesn't leave much behind for patience.
  • f3Rl3SSf3Rl3SS Join Date: 2003-01-28 Member: 12878Members
    1.) warn him and tel em to stop!
    2.) kick
    3.) when he comes back and keeps harrasing john -> permban
  • BioHazardBioHazard Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7495Members
    we had this happen 2 days ago.
    we warned the person that impostersous names are not allowed and to change back.
    they proceeded to act like an arse so he got banned. our warnings are short and sweet. i don't see any good in giving a person 2 or 3 warnings. if they hear the first time then they should be smart enough to know not to do what they were doing to get under the skin of the players and server admins.
  • RoobubbaRoobubba Who you gonna call? Join Date: 2003-01-06 Member: 11930Members, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    edited February 2003
    permanent ban here

    I don't have time for people p1**ing me off, I run the server out of my own pocket using my bandwidth.

    Cause trouble and you can expect not to come back.
    I completely reserve the right to do what I like on my server. If I am a bad admin, I will lose the regulars and good players.
    That hasn't happened yet, so I'm assuming I'm doing OK <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • QuestionQuestion Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9180Members
    Very nice responses.

    Choice A : 0%
    Choice B : 100%
  • MoroseMorose Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5961Members
    I don't like **** on my servers. I would ban him without hesitation or remorse... no matter how "good" a player he was.
  • ZdroneZdrone Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3914Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Roobubba+Feb 11 2003, 04:20 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Roobubba @ Feb 11 2003, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> permanent ban here

    I don't have time for people p1**ing me off, I run the server out of my own pocket using my bandwidth.

    Cause trouble and you can expect not to come back.
    I completely reserve the right to do what I like on my server. If I am a bad admin, I will lose the regulars and good players.
    That hasn't happened yet, so I'm assuming I'm doing OK <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Amen brother!
  • [WHO]Them[WHO]Them You can call me Dave Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10593Members, Constellation
    edited February 2003
    the rules on my server are very open ended. "Don't be a moron"

    there are no warnings for violations of that rule, simple sweet permabans. If someone is just talking smack that's different than being dumb. But as soon as they cross the line of being dumb then their first warning is "You have been banned from this server." And then my policy is to inform everyone else playing that the dumb player has been banned so as to avoid confusion over what constitutes being dumb.
  • ZdroneZdrone Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3914Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--[WHO]Them+Feb 11 2003, 07:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([WHO]Them @ Feb 11 2003, 07:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> the rules on my server are very open ended. "Don't be a moron"

    there are no warnings for violations of that rule, simple sweet permabans.
    *edited to shorten post*
    ." And then my policy is to inform everyone else playing that the dumb player has been banned so as to avoid confusion over what constitutes being dumb. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Personally, I leave <b>admin_quiet 0</b> just so everyone knows whats happening in the background. It also keeps the admins that I have fairly honest as they know everyone can see the commands they are using.

    Rules don't apply to me though... irritate me in any way (and I have extremely bad days at work) and I whip out the banstick and start beating people with it.

    UserX: Man, this server sucks
    Zdrone: Admin_ban UserX
    UserY: Admin Abuse!
    Zdrone: Admin_ban UserY
    Zdrone: no... THATS admin abuse...
  • CaucasianCaucasian Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 9993Members
    Generally that is what is done on our server. If the person is just being a total jackass, then we will set them up the ban. Players don't need to be around mentally disturbed people like that.
  • verboseverbose Join Date: 2002-11-25 Member: 9968Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--Caucasian+Feb 11 2003, 01:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caucasian @ Feb 11 2003, 01:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If the person is just being a total jackass, then we will set them up the ban. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Captain: "What happen ?"

    Mechanic: "Somebody set up us the ban."
  • cracker_jackmaccracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin--Zdrone+Feb 11 2003, 02:24 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zdrone @ Feb 11 2003, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
    UserX: Man, this server sucks
    Zdrone: Admin_ban UserX
    UserY: Admin Abuse!
    Zdrone: Admin_ban UserY
    Zdrone: no... THATS admin abuse... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    roflmao....nice job.
  • Lightning_BlueLightning_Blue Sunny Domination Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10647Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    When it comes to rules, it is largely dependant on my mood <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

    If I'm in a good mood, I'm more likely to let things slide...**** me off though, and I get ugly.

    On Nano, I have the following policy:

    1st warning, kick | 2nd warning, day ban | 3rd warning, week ban | 4th warning, perm ban

    Seems to work well so far.
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