Bots

eaglec · February 2003

<div class="IPBDescription"> 2 bot or not 2 bot</div> I have had a look at cheesah's bots but they are not for me. I want a metamod compatable bot that I can run with admin mod, HLG and other addons to give my server 2-4 bots while it is quiet to encourage new blood to join and stick around for a few minutes.

I really dont want anything clever but people really seem to like my server when they are playing but if it's empty it just seems to stay that way, every minute someone joins and then leaves after a few minutes on their own and then 20seconds afterwards someone else joins... is there another problem I should know about?

Unknown · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eaglec @ Feb 8 2003, 05:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I have had a look at cheesah's bots but they are not for me. I want a metamod compatable bot that I can run with admin mod, HLG and other addons to give my server 2-4 bots while it is quiet to encourage new blood to join and stick around for a few minutes.  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Cheesah's bot's are metamod and adminmod compatable. I run adminmod with CommGhost, GorgeRes, PhaseEQ, Monster, Lerkcarry, Unstuck Pro, etc. (Thx to mostly [WHO]Them. Keep up the good plugging in <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif'>) plugins, and it works fine.

On my clan's TFC server (running adminmod also), we have bots that kick themselves after a certain # of humans join, but I don't know how the admin of that server did it, but it works.

eaglec · February 2003

Hate to argue but when I asked Cheesah he said the NS bot wasn't metamod compatible and wouldn't be, a work around was suggested but it involves using an old release and installing via the command line, this results in very long map changes and from the sounds of it unstable performance (info from PetitMorte.)

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No way! Converting the bot to a metamod plugin is a serious job, it requires editing every engine function if I wanted to do it.
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Dodgy_Bob · February 2003

eaglec,

RCBOTs definately DOES work with AdminMod/metamod under NS v1.04. I have it working here. RCBOT loads metamod. Install RCBOTs, then AdminMod and change the liblist.gam to load rcbot.dll.

The only problem I have is that it says to run the command "allow_player player_name>" to give other players the ability to control the bots. I can't get this working <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'>

Dodgy_Bob · February 2003

Sorted that now, you have to run commands prefaced with bot. So in my case it's :

bot "allow_player <name>"

Unfortunately, it doesn't like names with spaces <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

playerhater · February 2003

Dodgy Bob, do you know wher I can download RCbots from somewhere other then www.half-life.hu. I did a googel search and this is the only place I can find. I regeistered to the site and attempted to download it and this is what I get:

Sorry, your HOST is not allowed :-(
Reason: Our SERVER is flooded from abroad !!!
If you want something, come to HUNGARY <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

THX & Bye!

eaglec · February 2003

I also get a problem, I can get to the webpage, I create an account as requested but when I try to log in it logs me in as user: and doesnt allow me to fill in the details! Then when I try to download it logs me out and then cmplains I am not logged it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>
Another site might be a good option - or can someone mail it to me? - eaglec@dsl.pipex.com

Many thanks fo the info!

Dodgy_Bob · February 2003

I got it from here :

<a href='http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pat.murphy/rcbot/' target='_blank'>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pat.murphy/rcbot/</a>

Hope that helps.

Oh yeah, on the allow player thing. If you run it from a client using admin_rcon it works fine with player names with spaces. Like this :

admin_rcon bot "allow_player Dodgy Bob"

Just thought I'd let you know <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

playerhater · February 2003

Ack!, No linux version for NS. thanks anyway. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>

Bigtoy · February 2003

</span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (playerhater @ Feb 10 2003, 02:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Ack!, No linux version for NS. thanks anyway. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif'>  </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> 
Yeah, I am bummed about this one too. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'>

eaglec · February 2003

ok. THanks guys, that helps a lot. Bots work, although they are a bit thick <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif'> , audiotracking, lerklift and adminmod appear to still work and hlg seems to run (I tried meta list) but I use the hlg_net.cfg for my welcome message and it doesn't display this anymore? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif'> Haven't got time to mess with this right now but if you can give me some pointers that would be very much appreciated.

Many thanks again

My server (in case your interested) is running at the moment eaglec.homedns.org:27015 I'll be back in about 2 hours to try to sort this out!

PetitMorte · February 2003

Oh my gosh! You got it to run ok?

wow... I wish it would on my server. When I run the newest bots the way it's supposed to be run, it puts adminmod and HLGuard into "sleep mode".

I've tried stripping out all of my MM plugins except for admin, and when I run the bots, it's bad. I've tried it with Game Host (how I normally run the server), and from just a command line... neither works.

I've tried the bots and HLGuard... HLGuard stops checking players and announcing the "Blah has been validated" stuff. (I don't HAVE any cheats to test if it's still catching them)

When I run the bots and admin, admin stops making regulat announcements (time and so forth) and won't respond to admin commands. But "meta list" says that it's up and running fine.

I'm running win2k pro on a dual celeron 533 machine. The memory is fine, and the processor levels are great too.

Normally I run the bots, AdminMod, HLGuard, pingbooster, ejectgorg, and resnode protection.

Any ideas? I'd much rather get the current bots up and running then bug Cheese about it.

eaglec · February 2003

I may have been premature - my server crashed for the first time in two months an hour after I started running the bots... and I am really not sure if HLG is still working as the welcome hlg_say message(s) are no longer being displayed.... still plently of work for me to do by the looks of it.

[edit] nope still crashes, and pings increased by around 150-200. Totally unacceptable so I have removed the bots and all is well again... except of course that I still have no bots <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif'> [/edit}

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