Platoon, Full Metal Jacket Or Apoc. Now

Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
<div class="IPBDescription">What do you think is better, and why?</div> I'm personally more of a fan of Platoon. Sure, it's got Charlie Sheen but it also has one of the most though-evoking scenes I've seen in a Vietnam War based movie.

The scene i'm specifically referring to is when they are ordered to burn the VC village and they have to herd the civilians away. They light the fires and you can hear Barber's Adagio for strings playing in the background, reaching a crescendo as the camera pans out and shows the entire village burning. Reminds me of the Adagio for Voices playing during Homeworld when the mothership has to leave Kharak.

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  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Apcalypse now jus for it's sheer brutal message about war.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Apocalypse, because it has more French people in it.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Ah! But only in the redux version! Not the orginal.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Well I didn't think we were getting that specific.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    Well we are so there!
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Now you made me cry.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
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  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    LOL My mouth certainly=pwned now!
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  • BOZOBOZO Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3973Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Shadow
    "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning..." Need I say more.
  • DezmodiumDezmodium Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1575Members
    ahhh did ayone ever see "series 7"? you know that satire on reality shows were people had to kill each other and last one alive wins. that movie was cool.

    Also there is this film out about chineese kids who are thrown onto an island and are forced to kill each other. its supposably a very sick and gruesome movie but i havent seen it yet. cant remember the name.
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Feb 8 2003, 02:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Feb 8 2003, 02:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm personally more of a fan of Platoon. Sure, it's got Charlie Sheen but it also has one of the most though-evoking scenes I've seen in a Vietnam War based movie.

    The scene i'm specifically referring to is when they are ordered to burn the VC village and they have to herd the civilians away. They light the fires and you can hear Barber's Adagio for strings playing in the background, reaching a crescendo as the camera pans out and shows the entire village burning. Reminds me of the Adagio for Voices playing during Homeworld when the mothership has to leave Kharak. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Do some reading on Vietnam.

    I used to like Platoon too, until I found out it was all a load of <i>CRAP</i>.

    It is NOT a good representation of the Vietnam War at all.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    why bother reading when my friend is vietnamese, his father was VC and so far as i've heard, American's really were that bad in Vietnam.
  • DubersDubers Pet Shop Boy Edinburgh, UK Join Date: 2002-07-25 Member: 998Members
    edited February 2003
    Hey I'm not American and even I know the americans would have won that war if it wasnt for the politicians! It was a bloody political fiasco and it was not the fault of the US army for losing that war. They technically didn't lose anyway they jus permanently reteated.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    So, by your logic, no attacking force can ever lose?
  • FantasmoFantasmo Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7369Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--SmokeNova+Feb 9 2003, 07:03 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SmokeNova @ Feb 9 2003, 07:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why bother reading when my friend is vietnamese, his father was VC and so far as i've heard, American's really were that bad in Vietnam. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->why bother reading...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Top Reason why most Americans <i>cannot</i> differenciate between <b>History</b> and <b>American Revisionist History</b>?

    I know they were bad Nova... but do you know exactly how bad they were? Once you do some reading on Vietnam you'll discover what was represented in Platoon was a holiday compared to real thing.

    Like I said, once you read about the real thing you'd more the likely look back at Platoon as see that it's crap. Movies are rarely the best place to go for a good history lesson.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    I do believe that's why they're shown in movie theaters, and not on teh history channel.
  • DezmodiumDezmodium Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1575Members
    Another story about Vietnam my father told me.

    He was at a Air Force Base and every night the VC would open fire on their planes as they took off from this little village near the base. They would send out patrols to the village during the day but the VC would just run into the jungle and come back at night when they left. They asked the Vietnamese government to move these people (there were about 75-100 men, woman, and children) but the government took forever to respond and the VC were damaging the night bombers which was very bad. So my dads sarge call for a volunteer. The (un)mission is that they load a small bomber up with bombs and crash it into the village. The reason this was an unmission is because if they were questioned about it, it was going to be described as an accident. So this young pilot flies this loaded bomber into the village and runs off right as the bombs detonate. Unmission successful. My dad participated in a few of these unmissions.
  • Smoke_NovaSmoke_Nova Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8697Members
    I didn't say that Platoon was misrepresenting what happened, nor did I say that what it showed was the worst stuff.

    I just think Platoon does a much better job representing what (on average) happend every day.
  • OnumaOnuma Join Date: 2003-01-18 Member: 12428Members
    I liked The Boys in Company C.

    It still has R. Lee Ermey as a GunnySgt. but the movie adds comedy in with the violence.
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