Oc Dc Mc Sc

Dauntl3ssDauntl3ss Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7737Members
<div class="IPBDescription">Why dont people get it?</div> Why do i always have to tell people what this means?
Cant they just TRY to figure it out themselves?

And why does people build OC at nodes? and why does people build SC FIRST? I have never seen anbyody build MC first.. that is ok if we get second hive fast, but every noob seem to build SC first!

I dont get it.. is it pure stupidnes or pure noobnes?

(no flaming thank you)

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  • DeathToll_DavidDeathToll_David Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7902Members
    I Scream You Scream We All Scream For Ice Cream
  • ShingyBoyShingyBoy Join Date: 2002-11-17 Member: 9086Members
    Some peeps maybe just slip or something or just pressed the wrong button for makin resource tower or some **obscenity** like that for the OC on je resource nozzle... then again its probaly just stuipidness as if they weren't even paying attention at the screen or looking at it probaly
    Though who cares? about wether SC is first if ur not a noob u wont complain and u will learn to work with it... DC MC SC is not the only order these chambers can go in which can b effective sensory can be sneaky early on while MC would make u really fast and harder to hit unless ur using adrenaline which is basicly ur energy rate faster...
  • Dauntl3ssDauntl3ss Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7737Members
    some of them:
    dont listen
    dont read
    dont write anything at all
    says "why should i be taking orders from you?"(this happenes when im marine and commanding to)
    says "stfu"

    cant stand it.. i NEED a public server in skandinavia that requires password!!
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Daunt, start playing on the UK servers. I'll be happy to play ya. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • MMZ_TorakMMZ_Torak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3770Members
    N00bs get hung up on how cool cloaking is. They fail to realise the effectiveness of the other Two towers. mmmm Two Towers, can't wait.
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    That's because, once you've gone through all the 'phases' you realise how cool cloak IS! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Phase 1 : 'The n00b' You play marines, you get eaten a lot.
    Phase 2 : 'The Grunt' You play marines, you kill about 50% of the time.
    Phase 3 : 'Fodderboy' You play aliens, only know about 2 species - Skulk & Onos.
    Phase 4 : 'Fade with Cloak I' You play Fades (Skulk is just a transitional thing) you only believe in Acid & Cloak
    Phase 5 : 'Gorge' You're sick of Fades, you build stuff, or Fade with nothing but adren.
    Phase 6 : 'Fade with Cloak Part II' You realise how AWESOME claws & Cloak are when you blink, and decide Adren isn't as absolutely required for alien gaming as you once thought.

    I'm sure there are more phases, and I'm sure some are VERY different for others. But I'm up to 6 (yeah, with other ickle phases inbetween) so... let's go HA hunting!
  • MorrikMorrik Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8247Awaiting Authorization
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dauntl3ss+Dec 17 2002, 10:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dauntl3ss @ Dec 17 2002, 10:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why do i always have to tell people what this means?
    Cant they just TRY to figure it out themselves?

    And why does people build OC at nodes? and why does people build SC FIRST? I have never seen anbyody build MC first.. that is ok if we get second hive fast, but every noob seem to build SC first!

    I dont get it.. is it pure stupidnes or pure noobnes?

    (no flaming thank you)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not everybody is as gifted as you are when trying to learn the fantastic game of NS as fast as you. Instead of bashing them, tell them how to properly play in your sense of well-being.
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    If you dont want flames dont use words like "stupidness" or "noobness" and it wouldnt kill you to type Def Chmb, or OFNS Chmb, for new players
  • Error404Error404 Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9353Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Dec 17 2002, 01:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Dec 17 2002, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That's because, once you've gone through all the 'phases' you realise how cool cloak IS! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Phase 1 : 'The n00b' You play marines, you get eaten a lot.
    Phase 2 : 'The Grunt' You play marines, you kill about 50% of the time.
    Phase 3 : 'Fodderboy' You play aliens, only know about 2 species - Skulk & Onos.
    Phase 4 : 'Fade with Cloak I' You play Fades (Skulk is just a transitional thing) you only believe in Acid & Cloak
    Phase 5 : 'Gorge' You're sick of Fades, you build stuff, or Fade with nothing but adren.
    Phase 6 : 'Fade with Cloak Part II' You realise how AWESOME claws & Cloak are when you blink, and decide Adren isn't as absolutely required for alien gaming as you once thought.

    I'm sure there are more phases, and I'm sure some are VERY different for others. But I'm up to 6 (yeah, with other ickle phases inbetween) so... let's go HA hunting!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Phase 7: Realize you don't care about kills and just go Lerk all the time for support.
  • Dauntl3ssDauntl3ss Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7737Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Morrik+Dec 17 2002, 08:29 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Morrik @ Dec 17 2002, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Dauntl3ss+Dec 17 2002, 10:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dauntl3ss @ Dec 17 2002, 10:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why do i always have to tell people what this means?
    Cant they just TRY to figure it out themselves?

    And why does people build OC at nodes? and why does people build SC FIRST? I have never seen anbyody build MC first.. that is ok if we get second hive fast, but every noob seem to build SC first!

    I dont get it.. is it pure stupidnes or pure noobnes?

    (no flaming thank you)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not everybody is as gifted as you are when trying to learn the fantastic game of NS as fast as you. Instead of bashing them, tell them how to properly play in your sense of well-being.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I've tried that, it didnt work.. O_o
  • DeathToll_DavidDeathToll_David Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7902Members
    Better yet you go lerk with 3 hives and crank out 10-15 kills in 10 minutes.

    LERKS RULE!
  • Dauntl3ssDauntl3ss Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7737Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--GreyPaws+Dec 17 2002, 08:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GreyPaws @ Dec 17 2002, 08:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If you dont want flames dont use words like "stupidness" or "noobness" and it wouldnt kill you to type Def Chmb, or OFNS Chmb, for new players<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    at this point i was sick and tired of them
    sorry, it wont happen again

    and, they dont listen, i've written "BUILD DEFENCE CHAMBERS" with big letters, or in the nice way"Could you please build some Defence Chambers, we need them to get Carapace upgrade, and we need them to heal!"
    But they dont listen, thats the fact.. if newbies wanna learn, they better listen!
  • DeathToll_DavidDeathToll_David Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7902Members
    Just a reminder. There was once a time when you didnt know what the defencive chambers were nor what they did.



    Yes I know - you will respond with something like "I figured it out" or something stupid like "I always knew" - um yea ok the point is you had to learn too.
  • Dauntl3ssDauntl3ss Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7737Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Dec 17 2002, 08:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Dec 17 2002, 08:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Daunt, start playing on the UK servers. I'll be happy to play ya. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sure, where do you play?

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just a reminder. There was once a time when you didnt know what the defencive chambers were nor what they did.



    Yes I know - you will respond with something like "I figured it out" or something stupid like "I always knew" - um yea ok the point is you had to learn too. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Jeez, THE NEWBIES DONT LISTEN! It seems like they dont WANT to learn!

    And if u insist, it took me some time to figure out what a defence chamber did, but i didnt see anyone telling me what it did either...
  • ZifnabZifnab Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6062Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--DeathToll_David+Dec 17 2002, 03:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeathToll_David @ Dec 17 2002, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Just a reminder. There was once a time when you didnt know what the defencive chambers were nor what they did.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    First of all, you should at least glance at the manual before you play. It's not your everyday FPS.
    Second of all, if you're a newbie, you should <i>NOT</i>, oh how you should NOT be a gorge, responsible for your team's well-being and advancement. It's as bad as being commander when you're a newbie to NS in general. BAD. VERY BAD.
    I didn't even attempt commanding for the first couple weeks after it came out. I played and observed and figured out what needed to be done first.
  • HellbillyHellbilly A whole title out of pity... Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3931Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I try to play on the same server were i play with people i know well and we understand eachother and agree on strategy. All goes well..........until NSPlayer joins, go´s Gorge and builds Sensory first. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    It happened yesterday, but ´tis ok ´cause we won anyway.

    Just learn to use the abilities you have. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • BadKarmaBadKarma The Advanced Literature monsters burned my house and gave me a 7 Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8260Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Shockwave+Dec 17 2002, 01:22 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Dec 17 2002, 01:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->That's because, once you've gone through all the 'phases' you realise how cool cloak IS! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Phase 1 : 'The n00b' You play marines, you get eaten a lot.
    Phase 2 : 'The Grunt' You play marines, you kill about 50% of the time.
    Phase 3 : 'Fodderboy' You play aliens, only know about 2 species - Skulk & Onos.
    Phase 4 : 'Fade with Cloak I' You play Fades (Skulk is just a transitional thing) you only believe in Acid & Cloak
    Phase 5 : 'Gorge' You're sick of Fades, you build stuff, or Fade with nothing but adren.
    Phase 6 : 'Fade with Cloak Part II' You realise how AWESOME claws & Cloak are when you blink, and decide Adren isn't as absolutely required for alien gaming as you once thought.

    I'm sure there are more phases, and I'm sure some are VERY different for others. But I'm up to 6 (yeah, with other ickle phases inbetween) so... let's go HA hunting!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Im at phase 2 and im not movin!
    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Mmmmm... Phase 7. Lerk frenzy.

    Nah, I like being top of the ladderboard too much. Probably why I make such a sucky marine (except when NCOíng)

    Oh, and Dauntless, I'm usually on either the Jolt Servers, or PCZones, with occasional drop ins on **obscenity** Brits
  • GreedoGreedo Bounty Hunter Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 37Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    If I find a gorge who builds sensory first, I applaud him. Sensory is my favorite chamber, it has my favorite upgrades (making it really hard to pick just one), and in my opinion it is just as effective as either of the other 2 chambers, simply requiring a different playing style is all.

    I've been playing DC --> MC --> SC (If there's time) build order games for too many months. I'm sick of it.
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    DC is nice not so much for the upgrades (which are good, but not so much better then the others) but for the healing and boost to defenses.

    Movement is nice not so much for the upgrades (which are again good, but not so much better that not having them is death) but for the ability to get between your 2 hives (which is why I would never build movement first - no point).
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Hellbilly™+Dec 17 2002, 03:21 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Hellbilly™ @ Dec 17 2002, 03:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I try to play on the same server were i play with people i know well and we understand eachother and agree on strategy. All goes well..........until NSPlayer joins, go´s Gorge and builds Sensory first. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->

    It happened yesterday, but ´tis ok ´cause we won anyway.

    Just learn to use the abilities you have. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Amen my zombie comrad....

    and I heard Coil post a couple of times about sensory being a good first chmaber if you have compitent team mates, silence is pretty good...
  • UnknownUnknown Join Date: 2002-06-12 Member: 759Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Stormeh+Dec 18 2002, 06:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Stormeh @ Dec 18 2002, 06:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I always builds ResourceTowers first, but thats just me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Me 2. It just seems so natural that way. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->


    I usually never build OCs near my RTs until we are getting the 2nd hive up. Mostly because skulks are really fast, and if they are any good, they can kill the stray marine or two that is knifing the RT. (Or I get him myself with healing spray <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--> )

    When NS first came out, I would always build SCs first, because of cloaking and the SCs ablity to "see" marines. (I still wish SCs could shoot parasites about half the distance of a skulks, and do no damage to the marine if it hits.) Then DCs 2nd and MCs last.

    Now, if I build SCs first, I get flamed, beaten, mauled, and kicked. If I build DCs first, I get yelled at with "commands" like, "HURRY UP! BUILD MORE DCs YOU N00B!". I only built MCs first once because our 2nd hive was going up (about 75% done I believe), we still had no upgrades, and our first hive was in danger.

    Personally, I would rather upgrades built MC -> DC -> SC. Marines don't really ever attack until we are getting the 2nd hive up. And MCs are needed for Adren for Lerks/Fades and Silence for Skulks and Celery for Fades/Skulks.
  • LarofeticusLarofeticus Join Date: 2002-10-30 Member: 1764Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Greedo386+Dec 17 2002, 09:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greedo386 @ Dec 17 2002, 09:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If I find a gorge who builds sensory first, I applaud him. Sensory is my favorite chamber, it has my favorite upgrades (making it really hard to pick just one), and in my opinion it is just as effective as either of the other 2 chambers, simply requiring a different playing style is all.

    I've been playing DC --> MC --> SC (If there's time) build order games for too many months. I'm sick of it.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    my thoughts exactly, i've been waiting a while for a game where within the first minutes I could have perhaps silence or cloak... but it hasn't happened yet... though i did play a game where one of these new gorges dropped a sense... the only problem was despite our repeated advice he wouldn't drop 2 more
  • tekwormtekworm Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10685Members
    Sensory is a good first chamber but not ALL the time..its fun to mix it up


    tekw
  • StelonousStelonous Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7081Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Dauntl3ss+Dec 18 2002, 12:53 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dauntl3ss @ Dec 18 2002, 12:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why do i always have to tell people what this means?
    Cant they just TRY to figure it out themselves?

    And why does people build OC at nodes? and why does people build SC FIRST? I have never seen anbyody build MC first.. that is ok if we get second hive fast, but every noob seem to build SC first!

    I dont get it.. is it pure stupidnes or pure noobnes?

    (no flaming thank you)<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo-->

    I just do DC first, then MC, then finally SC at third.
  • StormehStormeh Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3541Members
    I always builds ResourceTowers first, but thats just me <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ogzogz Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9765Members
    sc is the cheapest building a gorg can build, thats probably why most noobs will build it first..since when they have 10 res as a gorg and can't' build anything else, sooner or later they'll reach the sensory chamber
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