Will This Be Fixed In V1.04?

SniperSkunk

<div class="IPBDescription">Towers under elevators :(</div> Has Flayra mentioned whether or not the 'stacking towers under elevators to block the elevators' thing will be fixed in 1.04?

MMZ_Torak

A siege Turret fixes it now, no need to wait until 1.04/1.1.

outerfroggy1

Actually this helps the aliens and balences the game... and as mentioned a siege turret will end all your woes.

SniperSkunk

Not when some idiot teammate blocks an elevator and forces me to run around the map as a fade, going the VERY LONG WAY around to get to the top of that elevator shaft.

tlarmon

This can also happen with teamates, notably under the elevator on ns_hera.

It can be quite frustrating, especially when the person stays there for a long time.

SniperSkunk

<!--QuoteBegin--tlarmon+Dec 14 2002, 04:05 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tlarmon @ Dec 14 2002, 04:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->This can also happen with teamates, notably under the elevator on ns_hera.

It can be quite frustrating, especially when the person stays there for a long time.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I haven't seen that, but I do know from personal experience that when playing AS AN ALIEN, other alien gorges who build towers under elevators, often shut off entire routes for me, and double (Sometimes triple) the amount of time I have to spend by going around the long way, which is VERY annoying.

RUAewok

<!--QuoteBegin--SniperSkunk+Dec 14 2002, 04:03 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SniperSkunk @ Dec 14 2002, 04:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Not when some idiot teammate blocks an elevator and forces me to run around the map as a fade, going the VERY LONG WAY around to get to the top of that elevator shaft.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
try using blink.

Zifnab

AFAIK, most of the elevators in NS have corresponding ladders, so its usually not a problem.
Other than making sure the elevator you choose to build under has a ladder, I don't see any problem at all with this tactic.

MrBatman

Or skulk your way to near where you want to go, then go fade.

I often block the elevators to slow the marine's advance. I hope this isn't taken out, it will make the aliens' life much more miserable. <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->

SniperSkunk

<!--QuoteBegin--Zifnab+Dec 14 2002, 07:06 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zifnab @ Dec 14 2002, 07:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->AFAIK, most of the elevators in NS have corresponding ladders, so its usually not a problem.
Other than making sure the elevator you choose to build under has a ladder, I don't see any problem at all with this tactic.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The biggest place this is a problem is the quad lift outside the power silo, on ns_nothing; most of the elevators on that map have no ladders, and 9 times out of 10 if I ever want to use it as a fade, to get to the marine base fast, I can't; some teammate has blocked that off.

Speed_2_Dave

my favorite thing to see is a COMPLETELY BLOCKED OFF RESOURCE NODE, because some gorge thought that 3 offense chambers would look better than a resource node at the spot.. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

The current and only fix would be to play with non-idiot players.

tlarmon

<!--QuoteBegin--Speed 2 Dave+Dec 14 2002, 07:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Speed 2 Dave @ Dec 14 2002, 07:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->my favorite thing to see is a COMPLETELY BLOCKED OFF RESOURCE NODE, because some gorge thought that 3 offense chambers would look better than a resource node at the spot.. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='sad.gif'><!--endemo-->

The current and only fix would be to play with non-idiot players.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Argh, I hate when people do that. It's hard to tell if they did it because they're a newbie and don't know better, or if they're trying to cause trouble.

There was a guy named "NSPIayer" on my server and after being repeatedly banned he still comes back as a marine and causes as much trouble as possible. I finally just banned his IP and I haven't seen him since, thank god. Heh.

bigb

RARRRR BACON

SniperSkunk

<!--QuoteBegin--bigb+Dec 14 2002, 07:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (bigb @ Dec 14 2002, 07:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->RARRRR BACON<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I guess our server's in the minority in thinking that tower stacking is bad, eh B? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->

sethwilberger

The elevator should just do damage to the tower.


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So you can slowly (or fastly) kill them and get on your way. This will still slow any advance of marines but make it less annoying for other aliens and easy to get around.

s1ck-AKDraithLord

ummm... u can slide up it too and i hear people complaint hey cant its easy look up go in 1 direction

Maus

<!--QuoteBegin--MMZ>Torak+Dec 14 2002, 08:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MMZ>Torak @ Dec 14 2002, 08:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A siege Turret fixes it now, no need to wait until 1.04/1.1.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I <b>love</b> this response. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

Aldaris

I think Flayra said it was ''a cool idea'', so no, I doubt its going to be removed

uranium_235

I think it should block the elevators, BUT if the commander forces the elevator down (He can do that, you know <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='wink.gif'><!--endemo-->), it'll go into 'safety override' mode and smash anything in the way.

Sephiroth2k

<!--QuoteBegin--uranium - 235+Dec 14 2002, 04:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (uranium - 235 @ Dec 14 2002, 04:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->it'll go into 'safety override' mode and smash anything in the way.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
including marines? cool

Kheras

Emergency override is a bit overboard. I think it's very realistic for the Kheraa to gum up the works, it's their version of vent welding imo.

Except in a couple cases phases and movement chambers can allow access to most of the map regardless of what lifts are blocked. I think that blocked lifts are much more of a bother to marines than to aliens at any rate.

Kheras

Doombringer

For marines, siege and grenades can fix this in most cases. Ladders help too, if they're available, but not all lifts have ladders.. and not all places can be accessed without going up a lift or up a lift shaft. If the lift blocks the entire shaft, aliens can't skulk-climb or blink past it.

I played a game where it did a lot more damage to aliens than the marines.. It really slowed us down when half our team went to fades. :/

Terr

What Torak said. It's really no issue for marines, because it both give you time to set up that turret factory and siege (because it tends to block off the aliens too), and once you do the towers are toast.

BlueGhost

Nothing is the big problem map for this, so damn annoying when some gorge blocks up all the lifts as marines hvae to spend 75 res on opening them up, basically makes it impossible for them to 'sneak' a HA/HMG/GL team out to siege a hive. *sigh*

BlueGhost