Gren Launcher Umbra

Boy_WonderBoy_Wonder Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8226Members
in Frontiersmen Strategy
<div class="IPBDescription">yep</div> I think its a great strategy when the lerks usually use umbra on the fades you can just gren the lerks then the hmg can go and haul butt!
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  • CayCay Join Date: 2002-11-12 Member: 8329Members
    I actually use my knife or welder, Cheaper, and the fades usually two busy running because he thinks im coming for hime.
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  • Boy_WonderBoy_Wonder Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8226Members
    Commander! I dunno about you but when i am commander everybody says i rock... but i think i suck and i am barely trying, maybe its my SC skills? being a fast thinker? what makes a good commander? I usually only get upgrades near the end of the game but our guys usually take over the hives in the jippy, with their crappy armor and regular rifles... maybe its my MIC CHA? or rather its the fact that i put a phase gate and turret factory along with seiges on every post?
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  • Boy_WonderBoy_Wonder Join Date: 2002-11-11 Member: 8226Members
    knife? then he can slash you which does more dmg? i dunno about you but i dont like to waste HA like that although welder does a dish load of dmg and you can stay a safe way away but you still got the lerks shooting spores or biting your leg!
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  • FlatlineUTDFlatlineUTD Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7695Members
    Whenever I play as a Lerk (which isn't often at all, cause I suck), they always come after me with a knife.
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  • ShuflYShuflY Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8760Members
    It depends on what kind of players you have for marines as well, Boy Wonder. If you have decent marines that can carry out orders and also don't cower against single skulks, then you usually never need the upgrades, the money is better spent moving on, building defecive positions inside additional hives.

    I've found that the weapon upgrades are mostly only useful if you have a team of noobs who can't kill anything otherwise. As a soldier, I'm usually happy with the standard loadout until they get a 3rd hive.
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  • MercenaryForHireMercenaryForHire Join Date: 2002-10-03 Member: 1410Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Flatline[UTD]+Nov 27 2002, 12:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flatline[UTD] @ Nov 27 2002, 12:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Whenever I play as a Lerk (which isn't often at all, cause I suck), they always come after me with a knife.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh. I was doing base siege with two Fades (as Lerk) and there was this one ballsy Marine (forgot his name) who just kept rushing out trying to knife me up ... he'd get in one hit, then the little baby Lerk would run back to his Big Brother Fade. All them time, the rest of the TSA team was trying to shoot me out of Umbra, and he was busy screaming (in pubhcat no less) "KNIFE THE FRICKIN LERK! THE LITTLE BASTAGE WITH WINGS! NOT THE FADES! THE LERK!"

    Made me feel all warm and cozy inside. Or maybe that was just the Spores brewing up. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    - M4H
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  • Frogg2Frogg2 Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4867Members, Constellation
    just try to knife me youll get your head bit off.
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  • Sh0tSh0t Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3882Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Boy Wonder+Nov 27 2002, 04:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Boy Wonder @ Nov 27 2002, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Commander! I dunno about you but when i am commander everybody says i rock... but i think i suck and i am barely trying, maybe its my SC skills? being a fast thinker? what makes a good commander? I usually only get upgrades near the end of the game but our guys usually take over the hives in the jippy, with their crappy armor and regular rifles... maybe its my MIC CHA? or rather its the fact that i put a phase gate and turret factory along with seiges on every post?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    wow and you're modest too.
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  • Ya-maniYa-mani Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7034Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Boy Wonder+Nov 26 2002, 11:47 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Boy Wonder @ Nov 26 2002, 11:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Commander! I dunno about you but when i am commander everybody says i rock... but i think i suck and i am barely trying, maybe its my SC skills? being a fast thinker? what makes a good commander? I usually only get upgrades near the end of the game but our guys usually take over the hives in the jippy, with their crappy armor and regular rifles... maybe its my MIC CHA? or rather its the fact that i put a phase gate and turret factory along with seiges on every post?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Does this have something to do with the topic!! <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='confused.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • MazdekMazdek Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2615Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--MercenaryForHire+Nov 27 2002, 01:50 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MercenaryForHire @ Nov 27 2002, 01:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Heh. I was doing base siege with two Fades (as Lerk) and there was this one ballsy Marine (forgot his name) who just kept rushing out trying to knife me up ... he'd get in one hit, then the little baby Lerk would run back to his Big Brother Fade. All them time, the rest of the TSA team was trying to shoot me out of Umbra, and he was busy screaming (in pubhcat no less) "KNIFE THE FRICKIN LERK! THE LITTLE BASTAGE WITH WINGS! NOT THE FADES! THE LERK!"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Heh, I think I've played in the same game with you before Mercenary, it might have been me. I do that because its my favorite assault tactic as a Lerk, to hang out with a couple Fades and just spew constant umbra on them. (Well, thats before I get spore bombs, then I alternate.) So whenever I'm a Marine and see a Lerk doing that, he's my primary target. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    So umbra doesn't buffer against grenades? I thought it did, I've only been killed by grenades a couple times as a Lerk. Though I guess when I hear them launched I usually fly off really damn fast and wait for the explosion before coming back.
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  • MercenaryForHireMercenaryForHire Join Date: 2002-10-03 Member: 1410Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Mazdek+Nov 28 2002, 01:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mazdek @ Nov 28 2002, 01:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Heh, I think I've played in the same game with you before Mercenary, it might have been me.  I do that because its my favorite assault tactic as a Lerk, to hang out with a couple Fades and just spew constant umbra on them.  (Well, thats before I get spore bombs, then I alternate.)  So whenever I'm a Marine and see a Lerk doing that, he's my primary target.   <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Maybe. Are you in a clan? I remember him being a clan member ... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->So umbra doesn't buffer against grenades? I thought it did, I've only been killed by grenades a couple times as a Lerk. ?Though I guess when I hear them launched I usually fly off really damn fast and wait for the explosion before coming back.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It does buffer grenades - they just hurt so much in general and Lerks have so little HP that it doesn't seem to. Best bet for a Lerk upon hearing that *foomp* of an incoming pineapple is still - like you mentioned - make like a hummingbird on speed. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->

    Edit - AFAIK, Umbra will <b>not</b> stop a "direct hit" from a grenade. Rarely happens though.

    - M4H
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  • Sly_FoxSly_Fox Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7220Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Sh0t+Nov 28 2002, 08:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sh0t @ Nov 28 2002, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--Boy Wonder+Nov 27 2002, 04:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Boy Wonder @ Nov 27 2002, 04:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Commander! I dunno about you but when i am commander everybody says i rock... but i think i suck and i am barely trying, maybe its my SC skills? being a fast thinker? what makes a good commander? I usually only get upgrades near the end of the game but our guys usually take over the hives in the jippy, with their crappy armor and regular rifles... maybe its my MIC CHA? or rather its the fact that i put a phase gate and turret factory along with seiges on every post?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    wow and you're modest too.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think its more about a public ego feed..

    look at me, look at me..

    On topic tho, umbra is really good for marine turret removal.. 2 fades in umbra can do a lot of damage before having to duck behind cover.. But the manual says that umbra is pretty only much use against bullets.. Knives Grens etc are imune to its effects..
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  • WormtailWormtail Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10033Members
    Yup says umbra only slows down bulets. any aliens or alien structure in umbra gets hit less by bullets. any grenadades or non bullet weapons (knife, welder,) can still hurt you casue ubmra don; blocks thoses.[B][/B] <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::siege::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/siege.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='siege.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::onos::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tiny.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tiny.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='pudgy.gif'><!--endemo-->
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  • WarfareWarfare Join Date: 2002-10-29 Member: 1697Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Flatline[UTD]+Nov 27 2002, 07:30 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Flatline[UTD] @ Nov 27 2002, 07:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Whenever I play as a Lerk (which isn't often at all, cause I suck), they always come after me with a knife.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Of course. What else? Unless they got grenade launchers, that is.
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