First Aimbot Users In Ns

BeetlejuiceBeetlejuice Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7542Members
I allready wonder why it took so long, but the lame **obscenity** round has finally started. Today i saw the first player who definitively used an aimbot (if someone with light mg kills two skulks running zigzag towards him while bunnyhopping, before they can reach him, you can be pretty sure, esp. if he repeats it several times).

So all we can do is hope that the strategy part is getting even bigger so that they loose interest (as long as there is no strategy bot around :o). But then aimbot users are a strange kind of folk, taking out every component in a game which makes fun to reduce it to dumb mouseclicking. So its very hard to say what you need to make such a poor person loose interest :o).

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  • Agent_Buckshot_MooseAgent_Buckshot_Moose Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7798Members
    Well...

    1. Skulks have 70 health and 10 armor.
    2. Aiming hitscan weapons is very easy.
    3. Skulks generally do not make it down straight hallways alive.
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--Beetlejuice+Nov 19 2002, 05:49 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Beetlejuice @ Nov 19 2002, 05:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I allready wonder why it took so long, but the lame **obscenity** round has finally started. Today i saw the first player who definitively used an aimbot (if someone with light mg kills two skulks running zigzag towards him while bunnyhopping, before they can reach him, you can be pretty sure, esp. if he repeats it several times).

    So all we can do is hope that the strategy part is getting even bigger so that they loose interest (as long as there is no strategy bot around :o). But then aimbot users are a strange kind of folk, taking out every component in a game which makes fun to reduce it to dumb mouseclicking. So its very hard to say what you need to make such a poor person loose interest :o).<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Paranoid arent we? I've taken 3 skulks in a hallway with 1 clip from LMG and handgun do I use the aimbot? NO!

    relax its ither luck or stupidity on the part of the skulks

    edit: Sides if you played HL for 4 years aiming kinda comes naturally
  • BlueeBluee Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6286Members
    Denying the existence of cheats is foolish.
  • GreyPawsGreyPaws Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8659Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Bluee+Nov 19 2002, 06:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Bluee @ Nov 19 2002, 06:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Denying the existence of cheats is foolish.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I dont think anyone denies it.... but since you cant see your score as a marine whats the point of aimbotting anyway??? im done with this thread
  • SK_TygerSK_Tyger Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8644Members
    seeing cheats everywhere is paranoia...

    If i had had a coin for each time someone said I was cheating.....


    SK_Tyger, better than cheats : skills !!!
  • MerciorMercior Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4019Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Sorry but killing 2 skulks doesnt mean you use an aimbot... I've killed a hell of a lot more than that and I don't use an aimbot. Skulks are jjust easy to kill when they're running at you... they're at their best when they can drop onto your head from a ceiling ><!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='smile.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo-->
  • ctxctx Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4592Members
    edited November 2002
    I highly doubt that there are cheats available for NS.

    UNLESS:

    A person codes a cheat for himself.

    Publicly available cheats are so far that I know, are unavailable.



    Wall hacks though, I know exist for NS, though I heard they are useless somehow.

    Good thing to.
  • xpoc99thxpoc99th Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8750Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--ctx+Nov 19 2002, 06:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ctx @ Nov 19 2002, 06:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wall hacks though, I know exist for NS, though I heard they are useless somehow.

    Good thing to.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yea i mean think about it Hive sight, and marines get movement tracking, its kindov pointless.
  • CrazedMonkOnaMissionCrazedMonkOnaMission Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7429Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Publicly available cheats are so far that I know, are unavailable.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You don't actually need a cheat to be made for a specific game in order for it to work for that game.

    And why would people aimbot even if there is no marine scores, they want to win, they don't like to lose. Does having a score matter?

    I don't like the motion tracking/hive sight arguement either, even with those in game, wallhacks(and ESP) would still be very useful. And also especially where the "early game" (before you research) is so important
  • Teufel_EldritchTeufel_Eldritch Join Date: 2002-01-28 Member: 124Members
    Im sure there are aimbot users in NS. I am also sure I have been the victim of one, however since I have no rock hard solid proof I keep my mouth shut.
  • BeetlejuiceBeetlejuice Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7542Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Paranoid arent we? I've taken 3 skulks in a hallway with 1 clip from LMG and handgun do I use the aimbot? NO!

    relax its ither luck or stupidity on the part of the skulks<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ok, since you did not seem to get it. No long hallways, no running straight, 2 skulks (fast and small) at once runing zigzag towards one marine with lmg who BUNNYHOPS!!! and he kills both before they even can reach him.

    Now tell me again that someone bunnyhopping can kill 2 skulks zigzaging at full speed within 1 second, i still had no good laugh today.
  • BeetlejuiceBeetlejuice Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7542Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Im sure there are aimbot users in NS. I am also sure I have been the victim of one, however since I have no rock hard solid proof I keep my mouth shut. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    So do i.
  • Dark_QuartzDark_Quartz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7950Members
    I have a question. What good are are cheats in NS? I mean, this thing already has a built in wallhack(Hivesight and motion sensor), semi-noclip(skulks <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='tounge.gif'><!--endemo-->), and other odd stuff(cloaking, commanders, babblers, ect.). So what good are they? And what good would aimbot be? Like said before, its easy to aim hitscan weapons and skulks going down a narrow hallway are doomed.
  • AhnteisAhnteis teh Bob Join Date: 2002-10-02 Member: 1405Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited November 2002
    Pistol would be WAY more effective with aimbot. So would parasite.


    EDIT: Plus, some morons (anyone who cheats) are so used to cheating that they can't play any other way.
  • HojoHojo Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2558Members
    Bunny hopping doesn't affect your accuracy very much, unlike in CS and DoD.

    I've been killed by very good marines, but I don't accuse them of cheating. Why? Because I've been a marine too, and I know that it doesn't take an aimbot to take down a few skulks within a few seconds.

    If you don't have definate proof, please don't accuse them of cheating.
  • BeetlejuiceBeetlejuice Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7542Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I've been killed by very good marines, but I don't accuse them of cheating. Why? Because I've been a marine too, and I know that it doesn't take an aimbot to take down a few skulks within a few seconds.

    If you don't have definate proof, please don't accuse them of cheating. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ok, once again since you still do not seem to get it. I am talking about two skulks running zigzag at full speed, he bunnyhopping and killing both not in a few seconds, in less than a second. Even under these circumstances not a single bullet missed. And i know pretty good what a good player in hl can do and what not. I played firearms quite some time and played against some of the better players and even they missed once in a while.
    And if you think i would be just sitting here trying to accuse ppl dont you think i would have told you his name or won id?
  • PheralPheral Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8473Members
    edited November 2002
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Ok, since you did not seem to get it. No long hallways, no running straight, 2 skulks (fast and small) at once runing zigzag towards one marine with lmg who BUNNYHOPS!!! and he kills both before they even can reach him.
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    [gahd]go play some bots then if you cant handle that other players are better then you.[/gahd]
  • EdcrabEdcrab Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4324Members
    Was this the small game where I was the marine commander, and a player called "Beetlejuice" "jokingly accused" a player of aimbotting and then asked him to take it as a compliment if he wasn't? Oh, and soon left after leaving only a mysterious "definitly aimbot" message for us to muse about before the game ended?
  • ZeroByteZeroByte Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 3057Members
    Erm, you can't have bullets not miss in NS since the bullets fire in a cone. An aimbot can't make all the bullets fire in a straight line.
  • VoidMainVoidMain Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9310Members
    2 skulks... one marine with LMG... less than a second???

    Sure, and then he tossed two grens, killed all the bad guys and credits appeared...

    Plz, don´t point people telling they´re cheaters till you have proof (screenshots, demo and so).
  • AcheronAcheron Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8489Members
    Cheats probably exist. This is Half-Life - they've existed for every other mod/incarnation of the game, so it's only logical to assume they are either easily ported to or made for NS. Then again, the only justification for a cheater greater than his own invincibility is the constant reactions of others. As soon as you get 50 newbs every day screaming "CHEAT CHEAT" whenever they die, the cheaters have won. The game is then hacked... and not with aimbot or two. I know this sounds like a bad ripoff of an anti-terrorism speech but it's true; as soon as everyone lets cheaters know we don't care whether they cheat (as this is a team-based strategy game), they will probably move on to a more satisfying experience (for example, back to Counter-Strike.)

    So the next time you see someone wasting skulks suspiciously - hide on a roof, get that third hive up, and laugh at his onos-charged, mangled, lifeless corpse.
  • Lord_ChambersLord_Chambers Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6160Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--Agent Buckshot Moose+Nov 19 2002, 10:55 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Agent Buckshot Moose @ Nov 19 2002, 10:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->2. Aiming hitscan weapons is very easy.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What exactly does hitscan mean again? I see people using in contrary ways from time to time.

    Doesn't it mean that every shot goes exactly where your crosshair is aimed, but the client side shot marks, whether they be the Lerk spike's poof or the Marine's spark/blood, display in a more wild random pattern for effect?

    That is, hitscan weapons are unlike rifles in CS or DoD, which have recoil, where each shot lands in a different spot dispite your crosshair remaining in the same place.

    Is this correct?
  • BeetlejuiceBeetlejuice Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7542Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Was this the small game where I was the marine commander, and a player called "Beetlejuice" "jokingly accused" a player of aimbotting and then asked him to take it as a compliment if he wasn't? Oh, and soon left after leaving only a mysterious "definitly aimbot" message for us to muse about before the game ended? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Yes it was. The first one was after getting killed by him EVERYTIME in less than 1 second. There it could still have been (maybe 1%) that he has godlike reflexes. The second one came as a friend called me, told me that he experienced the same and we made one final try, rushing him both at once. And there i saw that he even was bunnyhopping while shooting.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Erm, you can't have bullets not miss in NS since the bullets fire in a cone. An aimbot can't make all the bullets fire in a straight line. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    NS bullet spread is not so bad that you dont hit something close range and as i said it was NOT a long hallway.


    <!--QuoteBegin--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->go play some bots then if you cant handle that other players are better then you.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Really wonder where in my posts you did read that i have a problem with players beeing better than me. If this would be the case i would not have fa mostly on servers where the top league players play as well. And by the way in firearms as far as i can recall i never accused someone of cheating. Although i was suspecting it once in a while. But it was never so obvious.
  • RhoadsToNowhereRhoadsToNowhere i r 8 Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 33Members
    Lord Chambers, a hitscan weapon is one in which there's actually no "bullet" or projectile created. Instead, a straight line is drawn from the barrel of the gun, and a bullet is said to hit the first thing that the line intersects. All marine weapons except the grenade launcher are hitscan, and parasite is as well. This is in contrast to a weapon in which a projectile is launched, and a hit is only registered when this projectile physically collides with another object. The grenade launcher, bile bomb, acid rocket, spike shooter, etc, all fall into this category of weapon.
  • ThatOneDudeThatOneDude Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8846Members
    It is totally possible to kill 2 skulks by yourself, in fact, ive done it with 3 <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='asrifle.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> . I killed the first 2 with LMG then pistoled the last guy. It really isnt that hard. Also, cheats out already? thats just crazy.
  • BedwettingTypeBedwettingType Join Date: 2002-07-26 Member: 1001Members
    edited November 2002
    So what if he is an aimbotter? Let's see... There is no recoil on the guns, no localized damage, the lmg and pistol hardly even scratch the higher level aliens, and you still get no frags for the kills. And on the aliens side, the only hitscan weapon is just a parasite. I just have to laugh at anyone who thinks they can ruin a strategy-oriented game with a bot.

    Cheaters are morons. Don't get your panties all in a knot.
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