Game unplayable after upgrading to Windows 8

WispWisp Join Date: 2007-12-18 Member: 63211Members, Reinforced - Diamond
Surprise!

I have a MSI GE60 notebook. Specs:

i7-3610QM quad-core processor
Nvidia GTX 660M
8 GB RAM

I would get 30 frames per second on max settings at 1080 resolution before Windows 7.

Now, it's around 5 frames per second. I believe the issue stems from my laptop's "turbo mode." When games are running, the processor overclocks itself. The turbo mode light no longer lights up when I play NS2.

Every other game runs fine.

Comments

  • ObraxisObraxis Subnautica Animator & Generalist, NS2 Person Join Date: 2004-07-24 Member: 30071Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Silver, WC 2013 - Supporter, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts
    If re-downloading your latest Graphics drivers for Windows 8 does not work, you need to do a format-upgrade. Upgrading in-place over the top can cause issues.

    Just boot off your Win8 disc, and choose new installation, and delete all your partitions. Windows 8 will install. Then just upgrade your graphics drives from Nvidia or AMD's website and you should be golden.
  • AngeluszAngelusz Harmonic entropist Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18072Members, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    I second Obraxis' suggestion. Do make sure you back-up all your important data before the fresh install though!
  • elpollo12elpollo12 Join Date: 2011-07-12 Member: 109909Members, Reinforced - Supporter
    Be aware that you will lose all data bei doing this.
    I would only format the partition you want to install Windows 8 at and backup data on it first
  • antacidantacid Join Date: 2007-08-07 Member: 61821Members, NS2 Playtester
    Windows 8 is trash
  • CodeineCodeine Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75155Members
    You should upgrade to windows 7
  • XariusXarius Join Date: 2003-12-21 Member: 24630Members, Reinforced - Supporter
  • AngeluszAngelusz Harmonic entropist Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18072Members, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester
    edited October 2012
    <!--quoteo(post=2000689:date=Oct 30 2012, 11:44 AM:name=antacid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (antacid @ Oct 30 2012, 11:44 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2000689"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Windows 8 is trash<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--quoteo(post=2000693:date=Oct 30 2012, 11:45 AM:name=Codeine)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codeine @ Oct 30 2012, 11:45 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2000693"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You should upgrade to windows 7<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--quoteo(post=2000731:date=Oct 30 2012, 01:07 PM:name=Xarius)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Xarius @ Oct 30 2012, 01:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2000731"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Lol windows 8?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <sup><!--coloro:orange--><span style="color:orange"><!--/coloro-->Enough of this, keep it constructive.<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc--></sup>
  • CodeineCodeine Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75155Members
  • _Necro__Necro_ Join Date: 2011-02-15 Member: 81895Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited October 2012
    That may be funny remarks. But they are right.

    Win3.1 -> good
    Win95 -> bad
    Win98 -> good
    WinMe -> bad
    WinXP -> good
    WinVista -> bad
    Win7 -> good
    Win8 -> complete the sequence

    (Disclaimer: "good" is meant in microsoft software standards.)

    I wouldn't mind to take a real serious note. Like, how bad it is to enforce a UI that is made for a touch screen to desktop users. Or how stupid regulated their software-install processes are.
    Win8 is bad and you should feel bad for installing it. ;)
  • Onii-chanOnii-chan Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7164Members
    Win 8 is great and features many core improvements like vastly better multi-monitor support, out of the box image mounting and better performance, despite the silly <b>optional</b> metro menu.

    Sad to see soo many sheep join the "hurr-durr it's new so it sux" bandwagon without showing any actual issues besides a stupid menu you can disable.
    This is like judging the a car's performance from the paint-job.
    Quite illogical.

    Also, Necro, WinXP good? It was a disaster till SP1, way worse than Vista's driver issues.
    Win98 wasn't too hot either till SE and you forgot to include 2000, one of the best and the prototype for XP.
    Everyone on 2001 were crying XP sux, stick to 98SE/2000 and eventually it became one of the most used by both popularity and longevity.

    OP: Consider (re)installing the Runtime C+ packs, DirectX, .NET framework and drivers.
  • AlignAlign Remain Calm Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5216Forum Moderators, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2000621:date=Oct 30 2012, 07:50 AM:name=Wisp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wisp @ Oct 30 2012, 07:50 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2000621"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I would get 30 frames per second on max settings at 1080 resolution before Windows 7.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So, was it Windows 7 or Windows 8 you upgraded <i>to</i>? Just making sure.
  • lwflwf Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58311Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=2000762:date=Oct 30 2012, 12:47 PM:name=_Necro_)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (_Necro_ @ Oct 30 2012, 12:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2000762"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->That may be funny remarks. But they are right.

    Win3.1 -> good
    Win95 -> bad
    Win98 -> good
    WinMe -> bad
    WinXP -> good
    WinVista -> bad
    Win7 -> good
    Win8 -> complete the sequence

    (Disclaimer: "good" is meant in microsoft software standards.)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You forgot Windows 2000. ;)
  • VeNeMVeNeM Join Date: 2002-07-13 Member: 928Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2000834:date=Oct 30 2012, 08:11 AM:name=Onii-chan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Onii-chan @ Oct 30 2012, 08:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2000834"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Win 8 is great and features many core improvements like vastly better multi-monitor support, out of the box image mounting and better performance, despite the silly <b>optional</b> metro menu.

    Sad to see soo many sheep join the "hurr-durr it's new so it sux" bandwagon without showing any actual issues besides a stupid menu you can disable.
    This is like judging the a car's performance from the paint-job.
    Quite illogical.

    Also, Necro, WinXP good? It was a disaster till SP1, way worse than Vista's driver issues.
    Win98 wasn't too hot either till SE and you forgot to include 2000, one of the best and the prototype for XP.
    Everyone on 2001 were crying XP sux, stick to 98SE/2000 and eventually it became one of the most used by both popularity and longevity.

    OP: Consider (re)installing the Runtime C+ packs, DirectX, .NET framework and drivers.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    xp launch was ###### and thats MS's fault. driver issues were a huge problem and that effects user experience. now, who cares how well something is *supposed* to work , when in the real world it doenst work for the user. for the OP his performance in NS2 dropped in win8. to him the its not "vastly better".

    me? im on the wagon of, my win7 install is running fine and I have 0 reason to upgrade.

    if it aint broke dont fix it, win7 is barely out of infancy and now win8 is out. id hold off on getting it
  • IronHorseIronHorse Developer, QA Manager, Technical Support & contributor Join Date: 2010-05-08 Member: 71669Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Subnautica Playtester, Subnautica PT Lead, Pistachionauts
    I felt this was a good article on the matter:
    <a href="http://techland.time.com/2012/07/27/is-windows-8-really-a-catastrophe-for-content-creators/" target="_blank">http://techland.time.com/2012/07/27/is-win...ntent-creators/</a>

    /derailing
  • WispWisp Join Date: 2007-12-18 Member: 63211Members, Reinforced - Diamond
    I really have trouble believing that it's my installation of Windows that is at fault, so I'm not eager to re-format. Again, all of my other games run fantastically. I have had zero problems with the OS, except with NS2. I think it may very well be an issue with how the game is configured with Windows 8.
  • DghelneshiDghelneshi Aims to surpass Fana in post edits. Join Date: 2011-11-01 Member: 130634Members, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow
    There might be an issue with NS2 not switching to the dedicated graphics card on notebooks. This has been a bug before and maybe the fix doesn't work for Win8.
  • WispWisp Join Date: 2007-12-18 Member: 63211Members, Reinforced - Diamond
    <!--quoteo(post=2001027:date=Oct 30 2012, 04:32 PM:name=Dghelneshi)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dghelneshi @ Oct 30 2012, 04:32 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2001027"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There might be an issue with NS2 not switching to the dedicated graphics card on notebooks. This has been a bug before and maybe the fix doesn't work for Win8.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This was it. Problem solved. I went into the Nvidia control panel and forced the Nvidia card on.
  • PikachuPikachu Join Date: 2012-10-03 Member: 161437Members
    I haven't had any major issues with Win8. Anything "made for 7/Vista" has worked so far. The Start screen is as convenient as it is annoying. My biggest complaint is that in trying to be a non-desktop OS is that it tries to abstract away the directory structure (explorer) into the cloud- and you have to read <i>into the cloud</i> with a lofty voice whilst looking into the distance. It's completely ignore-able in Desktop mode. To say something nice though, mine goes from BIOS to Login in 2.3 seconds on a SATAII SSD system.

    Issues will probably be had from carrying over installed applications from a prior version of windows, <b>which you should never do</b>. I used the upgrade myself, but <b>there's an option in the upgrade to do what is essentially a clean install</b> (it'll put everything on the Window's partition in a backup folder, except /Users). No boot from external media required.
  • countbasiecountbasie Join Date: 2008-12-27 Member: 65884Members
    <!--quoteo(post=2000949:date=Oct 30 2012, 04:14 PM:name=lwf)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (lwf @ Oct 30 2012, 04:14 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=2000949"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You forgot Windows 2000. ;)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, it just doen't fit in his claim.
  • ScubboScubbo Join Date: 2012-10-03 Member: 161364Members
    2k was a GREAT OS! especially server, compared to nt4 it was a dream!
  • CodeineCodeine Join Date: 2010-11-22 Member: 75155Members
    This isnt the first time i've heard of games not running well with win8.

    My friend just the other day actually told me he was reformatting his new SSD with windows 8, i told him not to, later that night he said hes reformatting back to win7 as win8 was causing issues for him in the games he plays. Coincidence?
  • schkorpioschkorpio I can mspaint Join Date: 2003-05-23 Member: 16635Members
    probably gfx driver related. Sounds like OP is using the built in drivers that come with Win 8 instead of the ones from the Nvidia site
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