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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited December 2011
    Artifacts usually are the result of a damaged card or overclocking incorrectly (too far). Now that you said you're using Powerstrip, are you overclocking per chance?
  • playerplayer Join Date: 2010-09-12 Member: 73982Members
    edited December 2011
    It doesn't really look like an artifact to me. Artifacts (on the graphics-card) tend to be very erratic, think random pixel-noise, extreme polygon-distortion, texture-corruption et cetera. While it is drawing bloom at the wrong places and at the wrong intensity, it does seem to do it accurately and without graphical-corruption nonetheless.

    Try running FurMark (extreme stress-test, will heat your card up a lot) for a good while (say 2-3 hours), if it doesn't turn up anything out of the ordinary, I'm inclined to say it is indeed a bug in NS2.
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1888366:date=Dec 4 2011, 03:48 PM:name=Kouji_San)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kouji_San @ Dec 4 2011, 03:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888366"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Artifacts usually are the result of a damaged card or overclocking incorrectly (too far). Now that you said you're using Powerstrip, are you overclocking per chance?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I only use powerstrip to increase the gamma in game due to extreme dark situations. I am using the Catalyst Control Center to overclock but I've been running the same speeds for over a year.
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1888374:date=Dec 4 2011, 04:25 PM:name=player)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (player @ Dec 4 2011, 04:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1888374"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It doesn't really look like an artifact to me. Artifacts (on the graphics-card) tend to be very erratic, think random pixel-noise, extreme polygon-distortion, texture-corruption et cetera. While it is drawing bloom at the wrong places and at the wrong intensity, it does seem to do it accurately and without graphical-corruption nonetheless.

    Try running FurMark (extreme stress-test, will heat your card up a lot) for a good while (say 2-3 hours), if it doesn't turn up anything out of the ordinary, I'm inclined to say it is indeed a bug in NS2.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'll give FurMark a run and see what happens.
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    Well I ran FurMark for a couple hours without any issues.
    Uninstalled current drivers and reinstalled previous versions and so far no more problems.
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    Did you re-enable bloom though, just making sure here :)

    r_bloom 1
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This what your looking for?
    Also, the only other programs that are running are (Windows security essentials & Powerstrip)
    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/Junk/127ae6d3.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Use the 'Save as' option so we can see the full report. I have dealt with my fair share of post-sales support so I vaguely know what I'm looking for, at least to rule out the most common candidates.
  • MaxMax Technical Director, Unknown Worlds Entertainment Join Date: 2002-03-15 Member: 318Super Administrators, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    It would be interesting to see your log file. That's definitely an interesting artifact I haven't seen before. I imagine it's caused by the creation of some sort of off-screen buffer failing.
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    It will have to wait.
    I am just finishing up building my new computer, and don't even have Steam installed yet.
    Not sure if I'll even still have the same issue although I did have to reuse my video card for the time being.
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    Well the problem is gone after finishing my new computer and performance has increased 10x fold!
    I'm using the newest drivers again and no more white fire. :)

    old pc:
    GA-EP35-DS3L | Intel E2180 @ 3GHz | VisionTek 4850 | 2x2GB DDR800 Super Talent | WD1600HLHX | Antec ea430W

    new pc:
    MSI P67A-G43 | Intel I5-2500K | VisionTek 4850 | 2x4GB Corsair XMS3 | WD1600HLHX | Antec HCG-620
  • WombatLOLWombatLOL Join Date: 2011-11-30 Member: 136042Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Funny how he asked for a log and you build a new pc.
  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    You built a new PC just to play an in beta game?

    Oh Maurice..
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    edited December 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1889854:date=Dec 11 2011, 07:28 PM:name=konata)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (konata @ Dec 11 2011, 07:28 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889854"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->You built a new PC just to play an in beta game?

    Oh Maurice..<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because there's no way he could have been building a new PC before this, right? By "finished building my new computer", he could only possibly mean that the sole reason for this considerable investment of money was to play NS2.

    >.>
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    Jesus some of you guys are idiots.

    Thank you Techercizer for actually having common sense.

    I was planning this build long ago and it just happen to be a coincident that it happened during this time.

    <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/Zick/GIFs/fcb6d6b1.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    You went to an awful lot of trouble testing your hardware (ie. Furmark) if you were simply going to replace the hardware a week later.

    So the problem hasn't actually been sorted. So it might be useful to post the logs for Max/other coder at UWE to see if it could help them figure this out and stop it for other or future users.
  • TechercizerTechercizer 7th Player Join Date: 2011-06-11 Member: 103832Members
    I know what you're going through H0w. I just finished building my current rig last year, so I know people don't just up and decide to make these things on a whim.

    That being said, we generally try and avoid calling people idiots on these forums, no matter how hard we might think it internally, since it tends to create antagonistic relationships in what is already a relatively small community. If you absolutely must proclaim your incredulity, I recommend saying something negative about people's conclusions, rather than disparaging them personally.
  • ScardyBobScardyBob ScardyBob Join Date: 2009-11-25 Member: 69528Forum Admins, Forum Moderators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Shadow
    <!--quoteo(post=1889889:date=Dec 11 2011, 07:57 PM:name=konata)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (konata @ Dec 11 2011, 07:57 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889889"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So the problem hasn't actually been sorted. So it might be useful to post the logs for Max/other coder at UWE to see if it could help them figure this out and stop it for other or future users.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This.

    Presumably, this is something that will happen to someone else in the future, so it'd be nice if we could track down the issue for UWE to fix. Otherwise, we're just throwing away one of the major benefits of this type of open beta game development.
  • MiniH0wieMiniH0wie Join Date: 2007-11-25 Member: 63013Members
    edited December 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1889893:date=Dec 11 2011, 10:40 PM:name=ScardyBob)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ScardyBob @ Dec 11 2011, 10:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889893"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This.

    Presumably, this is something that will happen to someone else in the future, so it'd be nice if we could track down the issue for UWE to fix. Otherwise, we're just throwing away one of the major benefits of this type of open beta game development.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Your right it probably would have been nice to get this log for UWE but unfortunately I had already started building my new computer by the time Max posted his message which was 5 days later. I reused my old hard drive and had to format it to work w/ the new system so the logs are gone.
    Maybe if I got better help right off the bat I might have worked on this issue more but instead I was called a liar and criticized...
  • NixxenNixxen Join Date: 2004-02-11 Member: 26401Members
    While it was unfortunate that they did call you a liar, and in turn you formated the HDD - in their defence the first few screenshots did look photoshoped.
    On the other hand, glad to hear you're back in business.
  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1889946:date=Dec 12 2011, 06:35 PM:name=Nixxen)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nixxen @ Dec 12 2011, 06:35 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1889946"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->While it was unfortunate that they did call you a liar, and in turn you formated the HDD - in their defence the first few screenshots did look photoshoped.
    On the other hand, glad to hear you're back in business.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    In their defence? Sorry, that just does not fly with me. There is no need to be hostile like that.
  • NixxenNixxen Join Date: 2004-02-11 Member: 26401Members
    That was not meant as a hostile comment at all. I was simply pointing out that I too thought the images in the OP and then later the enlarged version looked like something from photo hop.
  • konatakonata Join Date: 2011-08-24 Member: 118296Members
    Apologize. I mean there was no need for the original, "ZOMG HE PHOTOSHOPPING" crew to be so hostile.

    I still think defending them is weak. But on topic.. maybe this will be replicated again to fix issues quicker.
  • InsaneInsane Anomaly Join Date: 2002-05-13 Member: 605Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, NS2 Map Tester, Subnautica Developer, Pistachionauts, Future Perfect Developer
    I think now that MiniH0wie has replaced his computer and isn't seeing the bug any longer, this thread has run its course and shouldn't be left open to go down the rather angry course it's headed on.

    MiniH0wie, should you see this again, or if anyone else sees it, the best thing you can do is probably to send your log.txt to <a href="http://mailto:max@unknownworlds.com" target="_blank">max@unknownworlds.com</a> with a brief reminder for Max of what the problem is (I'm not saying do this for all bug reports, just this one).

    Konata, you aren't a forum moderator and it isn't your place to discipline other members or order them to apologise. In future, please just report any behaviour you think is wrong, and move on.
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