Female marine

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  • PawndemoniumPawndemonium Join Date: 2010-07-24 Member: 72725Members
    Well I'm not sexist at all, I just have a different kind of humour.
    But this female marine stuff really shouldn't be a priority... it adds nothing to the game. I would have said the same if the beta was released with a female marine to begin with.
    I mean it's not a RPG where you roleplay your character, on top of that it's a shooter, this basically means out of 100 players you'll see 2 female players.
    Although it might attract more players because of boobs... but seriously, ahr... add them to... gor... well no.
    Just release them when the game somehow works fine (both technically and balancing wise), that's still months away however.
  • KurrineKurrine Join Date: 2010-07-03 Member: 72235Members
    edited August 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1869048:date=Aug 15 2011, 05:09 AM:name=Pawndemonium)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pawndemonium @ Aug 15 2011, 05:09 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869048"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Well I'm not sexist at all, I just have a different kind of humour.
    But this female marine stuff really shouldn't be a priority... it adds nothing to the game. I would have said the same if the beta was released with a female marine to begin with.
    I mean it's not a RPG where you roleplay your character, on top of that it's a shooter, this basically means out of 100 players you'll see 2 female players.
    Although it might attract more players because of boobs... but seriously, ahr... add them to... gor... well no.
    Just release them when the game somehow works fine (both technically and balancing wise), that's still months away however.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nobody said it was an immediate priority, if you'd read earlier it's already been stated it'll be a post release feature likely, but I can hope it makes it in at release (unlikely). This thread was made simply to ask a question about their plans for it.

    And I'd have to argue it'd add something in the realm of variety and polish. The black armor does help a bit in this area, but later it'd be nice to have a multiplayer shooter I play not get it's visual variety from silly hats. So while it's not a gameplay or performance priority which should come first, it'll add much needed polish later that will set it further apart in quality from other games.
  • KalabalanaKalabalana Join Date: 2003-11-14 Member: 22859Members
    Female models are coming, so is black armor for them. Currently this implementation is understandably not a priority.

    /thread right?
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    edited August 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1868957:date=Aug 14 2011, 04:19 PM:name=Heroman117)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heroman117 @ Aug 14 2011, 04:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1868957"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->i'm sure it would be no different for a new TSA female marine not wanting to be recognized by a bunch of sweaty men who had been fighting the kharaa for years and probably hadn't seen a female for years.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because you could realistically hide your gender from people you spend <b>all</b> of your time with for months on end.
  • Smug_LobsterSmug_Lobster Join Date: 2009-06-22 Member: 67903Members
    Ahahahahaha, this discussion is actually happening. Look, implementing a female version of anything in any game is always lower on the priority list. Males are always considered first and default. Who woulda thunk. </thread>
  • PawndemoniumPawndemonium Join Date: 2010-07-24 Member: 72725Members
    Heh, the main problem I see with it is the hitbox though.
    Females are just not as bulky as males (most notably in video games! =p), and that pretty much is just an advantage. Maybe not so much in NS2, but still, you just can't slap the model on the same hitbox, let alone the animation and sounds of course... quite a big chunk of work.
    But whatever, Kalabalana you better spam /thread on your own topics... they mostly suck. =p
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1869074:date=Aug 15 2011, 08:58 AM:name=Smug_Lobster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Smug_Lobster @ Aug 15 2011, 08:58 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869074"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ahahahahaha, this discussion is actually happening. Look, implementing a female version of anything in any game is always lower on the priority list. Males are always considered first and default. Who woulda thunk. </thread><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Thank you for reiterating what is not in dispute.
  • Squeal_Like_A_PigSqueal_Like_A_Pig Janitor Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 66Members, Super Administrators, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Reinforced - Supporter, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer
    edited August 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1869074:date=Aug 15 2011, 01:58 PM:name=Smug_Lobster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Smug_Lobster @ Aug 15 2011, 01:58 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869074"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ahahahahaha, this discussion is actually happening. Look, implementing a female version of anything in any game is always lower on the priority list. Males are always considered first and default. Who woulda thunk. </thread><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually, the first marine model we made for NS2 was the female model, and it was the model we were using in all of our early versions of the game. However, someone different worked on the male marine version, and the quality was much higher, and the armor also went through a redesign at that stage. So, that left the female marine model not matching the male version in both quality and armor design, which is why just the male version is in the game right now.

    --Cory
  • fmponefmpone Join Date: 2011-07-05 Member: 108086Members, Squad Five Blue
    <!--quoteo(post=1869101:date=Aug 15 2011, 12:11 PM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Aug 15 2011, 12:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869101"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually, the first marine model we made for NS2 was the female model, and it was the model we were using in all of our early versions of the game. However, someone different worked on the male marine version, and the quality was much higher, and the armor also went through a redesign at that stage. So, that left the female marine model not matching the male version in both quality and armor design, which is why just the male version is in the game right now.

    --Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Ah, so the developers think boys look better than girls. Interesting
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    edited August 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1869103:date=Aug 15 2011, 12:19 PM:name=fmpone)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fmpone @ Aug 15 2011, 12:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869103"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Ah, so the developers think boys look better than girls. Interesting<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    well, i <i>am</i> better looking than most broads I've come across, so their stance isn't entirely unjustified.
  • PersianImm0rtalPersianImm0rtal Join Date: 2010-12-02 Member: 75414Members, Constellation, NS2 Map Tester
    Cant wait for the female model :)
  • saltybp53saltybp53 Join Date: 2010-07-22 Member: 72675Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1869101:date=Aug 15 2011, 12:11 PM:name=Squeal_Like_A_Pig)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Squeal_Like_A_Pig @ Aug 15 2011, 12:11 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869101"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Actually, the first marine model we made for NS2 was the female model, and it was the model we were using in all of our early versions of the game. However, someone different worked on the male marine version, and the quality was much higher, and the armor also went through a redesign at that stage. So, that left the female marine model not matching the male version in both quality and armor design, which is why just the male version is in the game right now.

    --Cory<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Pics or it didn't happen.
  • Smug_LobsterSmug_Lobster Join Date: 2009-06-22 Member: 67903Members
    Oh figures, they make the female model in a lower quality than the male version. THE PATRIARCHY
  • ASnogarDASnogarD Join Date: 2003-10-24 Member: 21894Members
    edited August 2011
    ... and people wonder why game devs dont usually communicate with players much, need a whole room full of lawyers to ensure the dev doesnt accidently insult someone or imply something not intended.

    It is perfectly understood that until the game is stable and running smooth with all the features implemented, details like model selection and other polish will be given due consideration later.
  • ZenoZeno Join Date: 2007-09-05 Member: 62183Members
    edited August 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1869018:date=Aug 15 2011, 10:12 AM:name=NS2HD)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NS2HD @ Aug 15 2011, 10:12 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869018"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I know of an Australian female who is very keen to do female marince voice acting... (No, not me you ######s...) And that Australian female often asks me if you can choose to play as a female.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Would that be the same voice that once introduced one of your videos (a long time ago)? I noticed back then that it sounded really professional.
    +1 if it's her :P

    <!--quoteo(post=1869134:date=Aug 15 2011, 07:47 PM:name=saltybp53)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (saltybp53 @ Aug 15 2011, 07:47 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869134"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Pics or it didn't happen.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    There is a video already containing this model. Afair it was the first video demonstrating the spark engine.

    There are quite a lot dumb comments in this thread btw. ... cut your stupid jokes ppl, they're not funny
  • DJPenguinDJPenguin Useless Join Date: 2003-07-29 Member: 18538Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1869156:date=Aug 15 2011, 03:34 PM:name=Zeno)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zeno @ Aug 15 2011, 03:34 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869156"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->There are quite a lot dumb comments in this thread btw. ... cut your stupid jokes ppl, they're not funny<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    No, I believe, this is a dumb comment, and a stupid joke, and you sir, are not funny.
  • SlithersSlithers Join Date: 2010-07-30 Member: 73368Members
    smug lobster, always QQing :P
  • saltybp53saltybp53 Join Date: 2010-07-22 Member: 72675Members
    The only real problem is that female models tend to be slimmer (look at hl2 Alyx), giving the look that hitboxes are smaller (when they aren't), making more players use the female model to increase their chances of surviving. Is this a stupid comment?
  • KurrineKurrine Join Date: 2010-07-03 Member: 72235Members
    edited August 2011
    Besides maybe lerk spikes and spit (both you'll likely just aim for their center), I rarely see too much precision needed in aiming as an alien, you bite/swipe in their general direction otherwise when in range. So I'd imagine the differences would be virtually non-existent. Not to mention it isn't like you're going for any specific location, you just want to hit them, no head shots necessary. I'd have to hear from the devs to be sure but I'd imagine they might use the same hitboxes.
  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1869183:date=Aug 15 2011, 06:15 PM:name=saltybp53)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (saltybp53 @ Aug 15 2011, 06:15 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869183"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->The only real problem is that female models tend to be slimmer (look at hl2 Alyx), giving the look that hitboxes are smaller (when they aren't), making more players use the female model to increase their chances of surviving. Is this a stupid comment?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    no odd job
  • croncron Join Date: 2010-06-21 Member: 72122Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1869186:date=Aug 15 2011, 11:40 PM:name=Kurrine)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kurrine @ Aug 15 2011, 11:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869186"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->[…] Not to mention it isn't like you're going for any specific location […]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    … you don't? Maybe that's because there are no female models yet.

    <!--quoteo(post=1869186:date=Aug 15 2011, 11:40 PM:name=Kurrine)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kurrine @ Aug 15 2011, 11:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869186"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->[…] you just want to hit them […]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    <img src="http://h5.abload.de/img/batemannajaweitegjr2.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    phrasing!
  • Smug_LobsterSmug_Lobster Join Date: 2009-06-22 Member: 67903Members
    Oh lawdy this thread is offending my delicate sensibilities!
  • PlasmaPlasma Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15855Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue
    When I played Tribes (awesome game, RIP) there was a male and female model; 90% of people played as the female (for the in-game player voice too) as it was more... fun :)
  • assbdaassbda Join Date: 2011-05-02 Member: 96737Members
    edited August 2011
    <!--quoteo(post=1869220:date=Aug 16 2011, 01:23 PM:name=Plasma)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Plasma @ Aug 16 2011, 01:23 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1869220"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->When I played Tribes (awesome game, RIP) there was a male and female model; 90% of people played as the female (for the in-game player voice too) as it was more... fun :)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Maybe they were just trying to come across as someone who appears to be comfortable with their sexuality *cough* yeah right *cough*

    im actually suprised no ones mentioned WoW on the subject of genders
  • whoppaXXLwhoppaXXL Join Date: 2006-11-03 Member: 58298Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <img src="http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/this-thread-sucks/10/Thread-Crap-No_Hope.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • Taxen0Taxen0 Join Date: 2010-07-30 Member: 73357Members
    I don't see a real problem with hitboxes, the armour they are using should be the same so they will be the same size.
    I cant imagine why the marines would construct different types of armour based on gender, as there would be no need for it. Armour is about being practical and usable.

    you "only" have make the clothed areas slightly thinner, and add a new face / voice.
  • Smug_LobsterSmug_Lobster Join Date: 2009-06-22 Member: 67903Members
    edited August 2011
    srspost: make the females a bit slighter, just a tad, but hitbox remains the same. Not like aiming in this game is precision based with headshots and whatnot. for the love of god dont give them "boob sockets" a real armorsmith would never create armor with booby slots in them cause that would just create unnecessary weak points in the armor.

    either way I know UWE will make an awesome female marine :)
  • slayer.faithslayer.faith Join Date: 2007-12-10 Member: 63127Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    -1 to some of the posts in this thread (way to be welcoming, guys)

    +1 for m+f models
    +1 for a few different races (hopefully just simple textures)
    +1 for UWE being BRILLIANTLY COOL!!

    ---

    Would you spawn randomly like the previous or 'pick' your model/texture? Picking your 'avatar' would be natty!

    Hey you could do a custom creator like City of Heroes ;). That shouldnt take max more than 20 mins to knock up, should it? ;)
  • princessprincess Yaaar&#33; Bristol Join Date: 2004-09-11 Member: 31605Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Subnautica Playtester
    edited August 2011
    I vote for fully customizable female armour with jewellery, handbags and sunhats...

    But anyway, surely it'd be better to have the same hitboxes, even if the model differs in stature?
  • BadMouthBadMouth It ceases to be exclusive when you can have a custom member titl Join Date: 2004-05-21 Member: 28815Members
    Why not have an elf? It's half male and half female. It makes everybody happy.
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