Female marine

Kurrine

<div class="IPBDescription">a black armor treatment as well?</div>This is mostly a throw-away topic, I don't expect it to stick around long, I mostly hope for a dev response to this minor question:

First off I'd like to say I'm glad from the beginning a female marine was even at least considered and I know it'll likely end up being a post-1.0 feature, I'm just glad to see my gender represented in a non-silly way, as far as the concept art indicates it's fairly tastefully done, that's a bit of a rare thing still sadly.

That bit of praise aside I'm curious to know if it's at least been considered if she'll get a black armor version as well for the special edition buyers?

SentrySteve

Wouldn't it be sexist if they didn't?

Kurrine

I suppose, though there's a difference between sexist and having limited resources, so I figured there's always the chance we'll just get the basic armor. Hense why I thought I'd ask.

SentrySteve

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Don't <i>suppose.</i> Call them out for being sexist. I'm still waiting for my gender and ethnicity to be properly represented. I'm a half Japanese, half Irish, French-Canadian.

Kurrine

I'd just like my gender represented properly. Ethnicity/race one way or the other, eh, less important to me, personally. But it'd be a nice addition to toss in a few skin/facial variations so the marines don't look like clones at least, differing armor aside.

whoppaXXL

<img src="http://firstpersonshooters.net/Games/Natural%20Selection%202/images/concept%20art/NS2_Concept_FemaleMarine.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

True love.

Hakujin

Women have not been frontline infantry fighters in any army in the history of the world because they are smaller, weaker, and cause discord among male soldiers. Do you really want to see women get mangled by bloodthirsty aliens?

The answer is...<b>YES! </b>

PS - ( . Y . )

Smug_Lobster

UWE was already sexist by having only a male player model as default anyway :P

And what about transgender soldiers? I hope we can see them get their own unique player models as well.

Pawndemonium

I think female marines should have slower movement, more weaponspread, and they should sometimes lose consciousness!
Discuss.

Smug_Lobster

I think every 30 minutes, all female marines should start menstruating, which gives them a constant parasited status, decreases movement speed by 20%, and should randomly become afflicted with an "irrational rage" status that decreases the morale of nearby male marines, causing them to randomly suicide.

Squeal_Like_A_Pig

Ok, everyone, lets try not to let this topic get out of hand. The last few posts are leading there.

As for the original question, admittedly we've been so caught up with just getting version 1.0 done that we've only gotten as far as knowing that a female marine model is high on the list for an expansion afterwards, but hadn't thought about the spec ops version of the armor. That does make sense, though, so I assume we will probably have the 2 versions done. We'd also like to get more varieties of faces for the male marine, as well.

Regarding the look of the female marine, that concept art was the first marine armor design. The design has since been changed to the version that is in the game currently, so the female marine, when she is created, will have armor that will closely match the updated look, instead.

--Cory

player

Goddamnit guys, must you be complete arses. This is why we can't have nice genders.

Hakujin

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Welcome to the Internet! By nerds, for nerds!

Kurrine

Thanks for the answer Cory, really appreciated.
I'm plenty curious to see the newer design applied to the female marine, I can use my imagination though.

DJPenguin

maybe you guys can, despite the concept art, be one of the few devs to break the mold when it comes to female armor models by giving them something that isn't "booby armor".

My <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/gaarmor.png/" target="_blank">GA Character</a> for instance. It's respectable looking standard issue armor that either gender can wear.

Pawndemonium

It's just not worth to break that mold, nerds love their polygon boobs.
They pretty much have to, as they discriminate the female gender, giving them no chances to score on real girls.

edit: Well let's say slim chances, some girls are that awesome!

Zeno

<!--quoteo(post=1868934:date=Aug 14 2011, 08:01 PM:name=Hakujin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hakujin @ Aug 14 2011, 08:01 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1868934"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Welcome to the Internet! By nerds, for nerds!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There is a nice <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=114288" target="_blank">Thread </a>in the offtopic about some guy who ... see yourself.

Having said that ... UW <strike>could</strike> should dustribute the female model as a non-free DLC so people who want to support UW would be able to do so without buying an extra copy. <a href="http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/forums/index.php?showtopic=114472&pid=1866116&st=0&#entry1866116" target="_blank">See this thread</a>. People with both the Black armor and the female marine would get a black armoured female marine as a sign of their <strike>fanboyism</strike> loyalty

Align

What about voices? Can we get a fan to do them, mayhaps? Should the commander order voices also change if a female marine is commanding? ...And should the commander advisor always be the opposite gender of the commander??

jergodz

Oh woman.. just lost my appitite!

Yuuki

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About that I hope the model will have physiological proportions, unlike 99% of females in games. It would really look stupid to have giant boobs and half-naked person running around with a shotgun. But the concept art looks great so I don't fear too much.

Heroman117

Maybe you could get away with using the same sound files for female marines by giving them voice changing modules, girls do it anyways in video game chat if they don't want to be harassed, i'm sure it would be no different for a new TSA female marine not wanting to be recognized by a bunch of sweaty men who had been fighting the kharaa for years and probably hadn't seen a female for years.

mokkat

game was obviously inspired by the Alien franchise, guys, it has to have females

Kouji_San

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Alien Franchise

Mother and Father

Or as I like to call them: B!tching Betty and Whining Bob

Kurrine

I would like to see, er, hear some voice acting for all that yes, it'd be yet more delicious polish.
Who was it that did the male voices anyways? I'd found out before actually but I simply can't recall.

Hakujin

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You mean something like this? I think it could be a good look for improving neckbeard morale!
<img src="http://paulboylan.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/spacegirl0309web.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

assbda

<!--quoteo(post=1868956:date=Aug 15 2011, 10:10 AM:name=Yuuki)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Yuuki @ Aug 15 2011, 10:10 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1868956"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->About that I hope the model will have physiological proportions, unlike 99% of females in games. It would really look stupid to have giant boobs and half-naked person running around with a shotgun.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

this game wasnt made in japan, i dont think that will happen.

Hakujin

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Ah, the irony of quoting 'Yuuki" on that.

assbda

Well you cant say im wrong, not entirely anyway.

Hugh

I know of an Australian female who is very keen to do female marince voice acting... (No, not me you ######s...) And that Australian female often asks me if you can choose to play as a female.

Having a male/female choice will be a great addition to the game. Gaming is spreading further and further throughout society, and it's natural that people will want to play as their gender. Males have no monopoly on enjoying action games (even if basement-dwelling males have led the charge), and I believe having a male/female character choice will help spread NS2.

Smug_Lobster

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Hah.

KuddlyKalli

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I don't think the female marines would need to hide. All those NS1 veterans will have relieved their sexual frustration on many an unfortunate gorge.

And yes, looking forward to playing as a Frontierswoman. And chomping some, too.