The Damn Vents....

Inflatablewoman

<div class="IPBDescription">Alies getting through vents.</div> Has anyone managed to get through a vent as an alien. I know where they are but I cant get through them, is it possible to do with an alien, if so what type and how long does it take?

DY357LX

Vents as a Skulk are easy. Takes abit practice and knowledge of the vent's next
turn but other than that it's not too taxing.
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Inflatablewoman

I mean the welded ones... has anyone managed to destroy the welded vents?

Hellbilly

Depends on the map. I think only few maps have the option to destroy welded vents. I read it in another thread somewhere.

Zarkark

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Uhm, read somwhere else that <i>"welded is welded is welded"</i>. Meaning marines do not really like welded things to be "unwelded" again... (Has to do something with their strategy, I suppose <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='biggrin.gif'><!--endemo-->)



<b>Now, really:</b> As I understood welded air-vents etc. can't be "unwelded" - am I wrong here? (I must admit, I never tried it up to now.)

IMO it should take a <!--emo&::skulk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/skulk.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='skulk.gif'><!--endemo--> a long time (say some 10-20 bites) to destroy the welding - but it should be possible. (well, how are they supposed to chomp <!--emo&::sentry::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/turret.gif' border='0' valign='absmiddle' alt='turret.gif'><!--endemo-->? - those are made of metal too...)


<b>Again:</b> are welded things "indestructable"?

nate

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Typhon

actually its 67 bites, seeing as skulk chomp = 75 damage. So chomping a weld should take less than a minute considering the bites/sec of a skulk.

nate

oh whoops thought they did 50 damage?

Mr_Radical_Ed

Actually in ns_Bast a gorge can use that green spit to open some of those weldable vents. Yes I have done it myself after someone told me to fire in that direction. As for the rest of the maps I haven't had the chance to try it yet

Ph0enix

The entire weldable thing is the one area of NS i'm still really unsure about.

I think some things (by things I mean doors, vents, whatever) you weld shut and some u weld open. How can you tell the difference ?

For the weld shut variety, how do you know if its breakable ? Can u weld something, have it broken, and then weld it again ?

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Necro

yea, i'd REALLY like to hear the dev's/mappers say on this.

Thansal

here is the deal

Bast: 3 weldables, all can be destroyed with ONE projectile shot (marine, lurk, gorge etc) however bite dosn't seem to

other maps, well I have yet not found any destroyable weldables on the others

playerman

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some vents that are open can be welded shut by marines. then the aliens cant get through, nor can they re-open them. i think those can not be unwelded by marines either.

coil

Whether or not the weld can be destroyed is a mapper-decided variable. That said, I'm also unsure which can and can't be destroyed, and which weapons can and can't be used to accomplish the task.

Bigrick

i came across one vent that regenerated, it had a little bar at the bottom like when aliens evolve and i ran out of power before i could destroy it and then it would regenerate too fast. Could prob do it with adrenaline but i didnt have it so i had to give up and go another way.

Khaim

quick note here: A WELDED ITEM IS WELDED, PERIOD. some mappers however put in a func_breakable on top of or around the weldable, and when you break that, the piece of that item that was attached to the func_breakable is destroyed. For some reason though, many func_weldables in the game are only breakable by ranged attacks (parasite, gorge spit, spikes, guns, not sure if acid works). One such map with this is hera, go weld the elevator shaft vents or the vent behind the marine base, then shoot it with your gun or go alien and blast it with parasite or spike a few times.