YouTube’s Bandwidth Bill

SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
<!--sizeo:4--><span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo--><b>YouTube’s Bandwidth Bill Is Zero. Welcome to the New Net</b><!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->
<!--sizeo:2--><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->By Ryan Singel Email Author October 16, 2009<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec-->

YouTube may pay less to be online than you do, a new report on internet connectivity suggests, calling into question a recent analysis arguing Google’s popular video service is bleeding money and demonstrating how the internet has continued to morph to fit user’s behavior.

In fact, with YouTube’s help, Google is now responsible for at least 6 percent of the internet’s traffic, and likely more — and may not be paying an ISP at all to serve up all that content and attached ads.

Credit Suisse made headlines this summer when it estimated that YouTube was binging on bandwidth, losing Google a half a billion dollars in 2009 as it streams 75 billion videos. But a new report from Arbor Networks suggests that Google’s traffic is approaching 10 percent of the net’s traffic, and that it’s got so much fiber optic cable, it is simply trading traffic, with no payment involved, with the net’s largest ISPs.

“I think Google’s transit costs are close to zero,” said Craig Labovitz, the chief scientist for Arbor Networks and a longtime internet researcher. Arbor Networks, which sells network monitoring equipment used by about 70 percent of the net’s ISPs, likely knows more about the net’s ebbs and flows than anyone outside of the National Security Agency.

And the extraordinary fact that a website serving nearly 100 billion videos a year has no bandwidth bill means the net isn’t the network it used to be.

<a href="http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/10/youtube-bandwidth/" target="_blank">Full Article</a>

Comments

  • SentrySteveSentrySteve .txt Join Date: 2002-03-09 Member: 290Members, Constellation
    for a second there, I thought I was on the ND forums.
  • SopsSops Join Date: 2003-07-03 Member: 17894Members, Constellation
    With that forum gone where am I to go?
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    Interesting article. The last thing I heard about YouTube was the estimates on how much it should be costing Google and at how much of a loss it was estimated to be operating at. This is intruiguing.

    P.S. Alas.
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    So they're trading services in order to offset a monetary bill? I don't see what is wrong with that if it works out fair.
  • ComproxComprox *chortle* Canada Join Date: 2002-01-23 Member: 7Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, NS2 Developer, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Developer, Subnautica Playtester, Pistachionauts
    Yah, this seems to be pretty big non-news. Google invests millions in their own network. Instead of trading money with other ISP's, they just trade some bandwidth. Google just (smartly) put that money into infrastructure instead of handing it straight over.
  • Konohas Perverted HermitKonohas Perverted Hermit Join Date: 2008-09-26 Member: 65075Members
    It's like online prostitution. Only the service is Interweb usage. And the payment is Bandwidth.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--quoteo(post=1732624:date=Oct 18 2009, 09:52 AM:name=Konohas Perverted Hermit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Konohas Perverted Hermit @ Oct 18 2009, 09:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1732624"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's like online prostitution. Only the service is Interweb usage. And the payment is Bandwidth.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That is a <b>terrible</b> analogy.

    I always found "expert's" claims of Google's irrational purchase of youtube to be suspect. Buying something hemorrhaging money as they claimed didn't seem like a very good business deal.

    --Scythe--
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    edited October 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1732624:date=Oct 18 2009, 12:52 AM:name=Konohas Perverted Hermit)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Konohas Perverted Hermit @ Oct 18 2009, 12:52 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1732624"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's like online prostitution. Only the service is Interweb usage. And the payment is Bandwidth.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    It's valid, smart, sensible and useful trade. Let me put it in to a point of practice which won't get me something stupid like the above in a reply,

    Fred is a Potato farmer. John is a crop farmer.

    Fred's stock is selling well and John's is not. John has too much crop which goes to waste, so John leases* some land to Fred and in return he gets some profit from Fred's potato selling and does not have to bill John for his land use.

    Done.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1732633:date=Oct 18 2009, 01:41 AM:name=Thaldarin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thaldarin @ Oct 18 2009, 01:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1732633"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Fred is a John crop farmer.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <img src="http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-colbert.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • RobRob Unknown Enemy Join Date: 2002-01-24 Member: 25Members, NS1 Playtester
    I figure it's more like two factions claiming different sections of the same road and they give each other safe passage through the whole thing. You and I are not "made men" in either faction, so we have to pay a toll to one or both of them.

    In other news...

    <b>OMGZ YOUTUBE PAYS LESS THAN ME!?!?1/ ANGRY RIOT!</b>
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    edited October 2009
    <!--quoteo(post=1732665:date=Oct 18 2009, 01:38 PM:name=Abra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Abra @ Oct 18 2009, 01:38 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1732665"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=0:date=:name=thaladrin)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thaladrin)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Fred is a John crop farmer.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--><img src="http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-colbert.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    homosexual! /signed
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