Favorite Donut

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685162:date=Aug 2 2008, 12:07 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Aug 2 2008, 12:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685162"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Don't misconstrue common sense and wisdom with fear. As already pointed out if you choose to put food into your body that has no nutritional value (like donuts) then more than likely your mindset is going to allow you to eat other junk, and the effects will be cumulative.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Stop telling me what I think. Over and over you keep saying that I am going to eat junk food forever, all the time, every day, just because every few months I have a donut. This makes no sense to me, although apparently it makes perfect sense to you. If eating a donut truly does lead to a disregard for health, well, you've got me fooled.

    Ask yourself a question: if, for some reason, you ate a donut right now, would you instantly become unhealthy? Would you abandon your regimen of eating right and exercising, and become an unhealthy fatty? Or would you say "yum, good donut, time to continue to stay fit." Your answer is probably #2, right? Well, that's me. In fact that's everybody who has enough willpower to tell themselves "you know what, I like donuts, but I'm not going to let myself get fat and sick by eating a bunch of crap all day. I'm going to enjoy in moderation and stay healthy."
  • FraxinusFraxinus Join Date: 2008-03-02 Member: 63783Members, Constellation
    <!--quoteo(post=1685033:date=Aug 1 2008, 05:57 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Aug 1 2008, 05:57 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685033"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Donuts are bad for you, like cigarettes, alcohol, or drugs... just say no! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":0" border="0" alt="wow.gif" />

    Take care of your body, it's the only one you have...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    you cannot be serious...
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. Somebody who knows what's good for them and what isn't can indulge a little every now and then without letting themselves go.

    <b>True story time!</b>
    This is the story of me and smoking. My father used to smoke, so for the first twenty years of my life, I was a passive smoker. Whether that's the reason, I don't know, but I will occasionally get the urge for a cigarette (although my father smoked the pipe).
    Now, I don't smoke. I don't NEVER smoke, but if someone would ask me if I smoke, I'd say no. I smoke that cigarette every three months or so, on average four cigarettes a year. If I even get the chance, that is.
    I have a deal with myself: I will never ever buy a pack of cigarettes (or other tobacco). I know that I'm at risk of becoming a habitual smoker, because of those odd cravings I sometimes get, and buying a pack of cigarettes could be the deciding factor, so I need to avoid that. At the same time, I'd be ashamed of myself if I went around bumming smokes off people all the time, thereby ensuring that I can't become a habitual smoker.
    A single smoke every couple of months is acceptable. To a regular smoker, the loss of that single cigarette won't matter. To me, it represents my reward for being a good boy.
    So, there you have it. That's me and smoking. The flaw in this plan, however, is that nothing prevents me from going down to the store and buying a pack. I have the money for a pack (whether I could afford one regularly is another matter). The store is open. I am well beyond the legal minimum age for smoking. There's nothing to prevent me from buying a pack of smokes - except my willpower. And I don't see that faltering anytime soon. I am too fond of my health, my sense of smell and my money to allow myself to do that.

    This entire thing could be applied to donuts as well. So explain to me how eating a single donut/smoking a single cigarette every couple of months will automatically set you on the path of overindulgence? Because I don't see it.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    edited August 2008
    Depot seems to have this strange idea that something in every donut sticks with you for the rest of your life and so every donut adds to your "bad donut stuff ™" tally. I'd like to know exactly what that stuff is. Sure there might be a small amount of damage done to the system because of a large amount of sugar or some other shock to the system, but that can be handled by the body so long as it isn't constantly fighting that shock.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    As far as I understand, it's not that the single donut harms your body, it's that it corrupts your soul, destroying your donut resistance bit by bit until you are slave to them.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685172:date=Aug 2 2008, 04:46 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Aug 2 2008, 04:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685172"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->As far as I understand, it's not that the single donut harms your body, it's that it corrupts your soul, destroying your donut resistance bit by bit until you are slave to them.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That too... <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wow.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":0" border="0" alt="wow.gif" />
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
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  • La ChupacabraLa Chupacabra Join Date: 2008-02-25 Member: 63729Members
    if a donut is bad than beware of.... freshly squeezed orange juices and.... smoothies!

    YES!

    No surprise that 0.5L of fresh orange juice can have more sugar than a couple of donuts if they managed to squeeze 10 oranges into a small bottle!

    @Depot
    Cool that you've got medals and stuff but it doesn't automatically give you a PhD in Human Nutrition (btw. did you heard that marathons/running are natural joint killers? (knees, ankles))

    I need to agree with TychoCelchuuu, lolfighter and Gwahir. There is no "bad donut stuff â„¢" that accumulates in your body with every donut... If you for example cycle every day to and back from work or go regularly to the gym you can afford (physiologically speaking) a little dessert now and then. If you're planning to go swimming/running for an hour it would be actually beneficial to have a high-sugar snack, rather than risk self-digestion of your muscles (taking into account that you're fit and have low fat reserves). And the "state of mind" your talking about.. lol... you've got a PhD in Addictions/Psychology too? I completely don't see on what bases you're claiming such thing to exist.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    A rather poor comparison, fresh orange juice vs donuts if you take a moment to see that orange juice has no fat content. But I'd pass on the OJ too, as one can get vitamin c from much better sources

    Nutrition isn't my major, exercise physiology is, but I've got a good handle on both as they go hand in hand. Of course running is hard on the joints, which is why I took up cycling.


    America is home to the most obese people in the world, because of the American diet and lifestyle. One donut's not going to harm anyone, but current trends show a dependency on fast foods, and a failure to exercise.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    Caring so much about your health that you can't eat one donut is borderline paranoid, and highly psychologically unhealthy. Obsessive behavior is not ok.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    Don't think that I <u>can't</u> eat one donut or that I'm paranoid, I willfully choose not to. I have no desire to and there's absolutely nothing psychologically unhealthy or obsessive about it.

    Do you judge vegetarians the same way, because they choose not to eat meat? I think not, and there's certainly nothing unhealthy or obsessive about that now, is there? <img src="http://www.nsmod.org/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif" border="0" class="linked-image" />
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685183:date=Aug 2 2008, 06:27 PM:name=Swiftspear)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Swiftspear @ Aug 2 2008, 06:27 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685183"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Caring so much about your health that you can't eat one donut is borderline paranoid, and highly psychologically unhealthy. Obsessive behavior is not ok.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think you have to be a little more compassionate. Clearly Depot has some sort of psychological, or physiological, disability, which, upon the ingestion of a single donut, forces him to eat another donut. This deadly cycle would leave him obese and unhealthy, if he did not have the foresight and willpower to abstain from every single sweet food on Earth. Would that we could all follow his example and be healthy; unfortunately, having eaten a donut last April, I am forever doomed to be unhealthy, and to die early, fat, and toothless. Too bad! I seemed to be in such good health. It must be an illusion. Any moment now, that one donut I ate in April is going to manifest itself in the form of intense donut cravings that I won't be able to fight off.

    If only, if only Depot had been there in April to stop me from eating one donut! He could have told me that eating one donut is the same as eating a million donuts because it alters your state of mind. Oh well. Perhaps my untimely demise will be a warning to future generations: one donut will kill you because they turn you into donut zombies.

    In an unrelated note I find it funny that Depot is bringing up how fat Americans are as evidence of the damage a single donut could do while lolf, a foreigner, is one of the donut proponents. Perhaps Depot would make an exception for lolfighter, because, not being American, the donuts will not corrupt his soul.
  • GwahirGwahir Join Date: 2002-04-24 Member: 513Members, Constellation
    So Emanon, bet you didn't think the thread would turn into this...
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    It's sad that American youth have turned into a bunch of fat slobs, but then who's to blame for that? Let's call it the "Donut Mentality", shall we?

    It's also sad that because someone chooses to abstain from ingesting a particular food or foodgroup that they are labeled "disabled", but then if ma and pa haven't raised you to eat responsibly, I guess they haven't raised you to not judge people because they're different.

    One day the roller coaster ride is going to be over, and it will all catch up with you.
  • La ChupacabraLa Chupacabra Join Date: 2008-02-25 Member: 63729Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685182:date=Aug 3 2008, 12:15 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Aug 3 2008, 12:15 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685182"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->A rather poor comparison, fresh orange juice vs donuts if you take a moment to see that orange juice has no fat content.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Unfortunately, the unused carbohydrates (sugars) are being stored in our bodies (in contrast to amino-acids) in two ways: short-term - glycogen (nothing particularly bad about it) and long-term - which causes sugar to be modified into FAT. So at the end of the day it's better to eat small amount of fat rather than drink a sugar-bomb which additionally destabilizes your natural insulin/glucagon cycle, which is one of the causes of (non-genetically related) diabetes.
  • JimmehJimmeh Join Date: 2003-08-24 Member: 20173Members, Constellation
    edited August 2008
    My favourite Donut is Private Donut.

    He's pretty funny (unlike this joke.)
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685190:date=Aug 2 2008, 08:19 PM:name=La Chupacabra)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(La Chupacabra @ Aug 2 2008, 08:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685190"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Unfortunately, the unused carbohydrates (sugars) are being stored in our bodies (in contrast to amino-acids) in two ways: short-term - glycogen (nothing particularly bad about it) and long-term - which causes sugar to be modified into FAT. So at the end of the day it's better to eat small amount of fat rather than drink a sugar-bomb which additionally destabilizes your natural insulin/glucagon cycle, which is one of the causes of (non-genetically related) diabetes.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    They make donuts with a small amount of fat?

    My body doesn't have a problem processing sugar but regardless, how these carbs are processed depends on their glycemic level. A donut has a glycemic index of 76, orange juice 52... do the math.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685185:date=Aug 3 2008, 01:39 AM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 3 2008, 01:39 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685185"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->[...]Perhaps Depot would make an exception for lolfighter, because, not being American, the donuts will not corrupt his soul.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Man, is there any problem being danish or german DOESN'T solve?
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685193:date=Aug 2 2008, 07:49 PM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ Aug 2 2008, 07:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685193"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Man, is there any problem being danish or german DOESN'T solve?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That is perhaps the origin of the name "danish" for certain pastries.

    Depot, it's clear that you and I disagree. I have no problem with that. My problem is that you seem to be making no effort to understand my position, or more clearly explain your position so that I can make heads or tails out of whatever it is you think. Your argument seems to be "if you eat one donut, you will eat many donuts, and many donuts are unhealthy, so one donut is unhealthy." The problem I am having is understanding WHY one donut has to lead to many donuts. In my own experience, for instance, I eat one donut, and then I don't touch donuts for many, many months. The net effect on my health is effectively nothing (do you agree or disagree with the idea that one donut won't do any damage?). So, when it comes to myself, your theory just doesn't seem to hold true. Now, if you can further explain WHY eating one donut will make me eat a bunch of donuts, I'm more than open to the idea, and maybe I'll start agreeing with you and swear off things with holes in them forever. But as far as I can tell you just repeat "IT IS A BAD MINDSET" over and over until you decide that my parents haven't raised me responsibly.
  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Slippery slope argument? Craving leads to indulgence. Indulgence leads to gluttony. Gluttony leads to THE DARK SIDE!
  • Private_ColemanPrivate_Coleman PhD in Video Games Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7510Members
    Whoever actually eats food and does not live off a number of MultiVitamin and mineral supplements like ME is a disgusting hambeast and should get out of MY AMERICA <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":angry:" border="0" alt="mad-fix.gif" />

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Don't think that I can't eat one donut or that I'm paranoid, I willfully choose not to. I have no desire to and there's absolutely nothing psychologically unhealthy or obsessive about it.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    You can't, and all you can do is troll donut threads to make yourself feel superior and reinforce your stance.

    <!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Do you judge vegetarians the same way, because they choose not to eat meat? I think not, and there's certainly nothing unhealthy or obsessive about that now, is there?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    If some vegetarian was all in my face about eating a slice of ham in a sandwich then I would. (And yes I would label them unhealthy and obsessive)

    Please stop ######ting up the thread now and get out.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    I ate a donut at age 10

    At age 16 I was beaten severely with a car door.

    At age 18 I got a nasty rash

    Coincidence?

    I wish I never ate that donut.

    www.AskYourParentsAboutTheDangersOfDonuts.com/testimonials/index.php?letterid=donutskilledmyfamily
  • IsamilIsamil Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23552Members, Constellation
    edited August 2008
    <img src="http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6151/donutskrispykremevv8.jpg" border="0" class="linked-image" />

    Personally I really like donuts covered in sprinkles. The texture adds a lot to the experience.
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    One donut will not harm you, of course.

    Happy? <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tounge.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":p" border="0" alt="tounge.gif" />
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685247:date=Aug 4 2008, 06:55 AM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Aug 4 2008, 06:55 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685247"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->One donut will not harm you, of course.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    There's no such thing as one donut. They hunt in packs. Packs of six usually. Nom nom nom.....
  • EmanonEmanon Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16254Members, Constellation
    edited August 2008
    <!--quoteo(post=1685186:date=Aug 2 2008, 07:40 PM:name=Gwahir)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gwahir @ Aug 2 2008, 07:40 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685186"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->So Emanon, bet you didn't think the thread would turn into this...<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Not at All!!! 3-5 productive posts!

    <!--quoteo(post=1685188:date=Aug 2 2008, 07:52 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Aug 2 2008, 07:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685188"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->It's sad that American youth have turned into a bunch of fat slobs, but then who's to blame for that? Let's call it the "Donut Mentality", shall we?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Its Homer Simpson's Fault! He glorified donut eating and brought it to a new level!

    <!--quoteo(post=1685188:date=Aug 2 2008, 07:52 PM:name=Depot)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Depot @ Aug 2 2008, 07:52 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685188"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->One day the roller coaster ride is going to be over, and it will all catch up with you.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'm willing to take my chances with the donut. Just FYI you're just as likely to be killed another way anyhow, exercise is good but doesn’t guarantee anything!

    I exercise to live not live to exercise. Huge difference! My BFI is under 5%



    On topic!
    Also All donuts are good when you get them super fresh strait out of the kitchen. They make them early early in the morning, depending on the branch between 1-4am.

    SSHH I stalk the baker!
  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    The Twisted Donut... You know cause it's big and none fattening...

    <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nerd-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::nerdy::" border="0" alt="nerd-fix.gif" />
  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685302:date=Aug 5 2008, 07:51 AM:name=Emanon)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Emanon @ Aug 5 2008, 07:51 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685302"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also All donuts are good when you get them super fresh strait out of the kitchen. They make them early early in the morning, depending on the branch between 1-4am.

    SSHH I stalk the baker!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is perhaps one area in which I am odd. I'm not a big fan of freshly baked baked goods, cookies being just about the only thing I can ever enjoy equally or more if it comes straight out of the fabrication device. I prefer my donuts slightly aged at the very least. This is another reason why I don't like glazed donuts; they always seem closest to the donut that they are when they come out of the fryer or glazer or whatever.
  • AbraAbra Would you kindly Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19870Members
    <!--quoteo(post=1685305:date=Aug 5 2008, 03:07 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 5 2008, 03:07 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1685305"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I prefer my women slightly aged at the very least. This is another reason why I don't like glazed women; they always seem closest to the women that they are when they come out of the kitchen or refrigerator or whatever.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Huurr
  • RadixRadix Join Date: 2005-01-10 Member: 34654Members, Constellation
    Come on Emanon, being a veteran of doughnuts you should know that fresh Krispy Kreme are objectively the best doughnut type, and that all other doughnuts are a bad allocation of calories. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/marine.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="::marine::" border="0" alt="marine.gif" />
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