ThansalThe New ScumJoin Date: 2002-08-22Member: 1215Members, Constellation
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<!--quoteo(post=1678515:date=May 13 2008, 04:11 AM:name=lolfighter)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(lolfighter @ May 13 2008, 04:11 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1678515"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I'm from the same country as Aragorn!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Rivendale?
btw, I can top all of you: Apparently my friend's sister's finance's brother wrote the screen play for Ironman.
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<!--quoteo(post=1678521:date=May 13 2008, 11:24 AM:name=Thansal)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thansal @ May 13 2008, 11:24 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1678521"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Rivendale? btw, I can top all of you: Apparently my friend's sister's finance's brother wrote the screen play for Ironman.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your friend's sister's financial assets have a brother?
Well, I just saw it. Not the worst movie and not the best, IMHO. <i>Raiders of the Lost Ark</i> is still untouchable and I think Sean Connery is enough to make me enjoy <i>The Last Crusade</i> more too, but Indy IV is definitely not awful. There are a few bad parts (some bad CGI, surprisingly, and the monkeys) but frankly it was often funny and the action scenes were really cool. A guy I saw it with said it was even worse than the Star Wars prequels but I have to disagree. I think it relied on a few too many one-liner jokes when it could have just gone with Harrison Ford's acting skills (it does this in the beginning of the movie and it pays off), and I wanted to see Karen Allen (Marion) more because she's an awesome actor but overall I was pretty happy. Great music by John Williams, as always.
Now I've been the first to scoff at all the "lol Indy is old" remarks, but DAMN if the phrase "Indy IV" doesn't make me think of him lying in a hospital bed with a drip attached to his arm.
I just saw it and liked it a lot more than I expected to. It really was quite funny, and the adventure and action were as entertaining as they were implausible. I would say you guys are right in that it probably doesn't entirely stack up to the earlier movies, but then again, I saw the earlier movies so long ago that I don't have a fresh basis for comparison. If anything, it made me want to watch the old movies again =P
Tycho basicly said what I would say. Shia is just awful, the crying made me cringe. Gotta add the snake scene to the monkeys and ants, and yea, the capoeira maniacs..that was just plain shame.
<!--quoteo(post=1679430:date=May 25 2008, 01:37 PM:name=6john)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(6john @ May 25 2008, 01:37 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1679430"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->in my opinion it was a decent movie, but a terrible indy movie. i mean seriously, <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>aliens</span>?!?!?!<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yeah let's go back to more plausible things like the Ark of the Covenant destroying armies with lightning or Kali worshipping Indian death cults that can rip your heart out while you are still alive and use voodoo dolls or a thousand year old knight guarding the Holy Grail with the help of a secret society.
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<!--quoteo(post=1679438:date=May 25 2008, 10:08 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ May 25 2008, 10:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1679438"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah let's go back to more plausible things like the Ark of the Covenant destroying armies with lightning or Kali worshipping Indian death cults that can rip your heart out while you are still alive and use voodoo dolls or a thousand year old knight guarding the Holy Grail with the help of a secret society.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Or, like, Indy has to escape space nazis by being towed by an X-WING! And he's on <b>water-skis</b>, and then he <i>RAMPS OVER A SHARK</i>.
<!--quoteo(post=1679440:date=May 25 2008, 04:25 PM:name=X_Stickman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(X_Stickman @ May 25 2008, 04:25 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1679440"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Or, like, Indy has to escape space nazis by being towed by an X-WING! And he's on <b>water-skis</b>, and then he <i>RAMPS OVER A SHARK</i>.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--quoteo(post=1679438:date=May 25 2008, 05:08 PM:name=TychoCelchuuu)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TychoCelchuuu @ May 25 2008, 05:08 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1679438"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Yeah let's go back to more plausible things like the Ark of the Covenant destroying armies with lightning or Kali worshipping Indian death cults that can rip your heart out while you are still alive and use voodoo dolls or a thousand year old knight guarding the Holy Grail with the help of a secret society.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh come on man, you MUST see how people (me included) can feel a little iffy when we expected a race for <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>ancient biblical/religious artifacts while escaping from ancient booby traps only to find out that all of it is about interdimensional aliens and a buried flying saucer</span> On the other hand, it was a joy to see Marion again.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Why did the alien kill the Russian woman at the end? I mean- so far as the alien knows the Russian returned his skull(!) and is all like "as you made me whole again I'll reward you by BLOWING YOUR HEAD UP WITH MY EYE LASERS". I also didn't like how invincible Indy became. Russians shooting with MGs from 5 yards? No problem. Yokel tribesmen throwing head-sized rocks? No problem. Atom bomb? No problem, <i>there's a fridge handy.</i></span>
<!--quoteo(post=1679484:date=May 26 2008, 05:21 AM:name=sherpa)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sherpa @ May 26 2008, 05:21 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1679484"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Why did the alien kill the Russian woman at the end? I mean- so far as the alien knows the Russian returned his skull(!) and is all like "as you made me whole again I'll reward you by BLOWING YOUR HEAD UP WITH MY EYE LASERS". I also didn't like how invincible Indy became. Russians shooting with MGs from 5 yards? No problem. Yokel tribesmen throwing head-sized rocks? No problem. Atom bomb? No problem, <i>there's a fridge handy.</i></span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Carefully constructed blowdart traps triggered by pressure plates? Just run quickly and duck. Huge swarm of natives firing arrows and poison darts from 10 feet behind you? Just run towards the plane. Ark of the Covenant killing everybody? Just close your eyes. Thuggee cultist trying to rip out your heart? Just pull his hand away. Tank shooting at you? Take it out with rocks. Indiana Jones always gets away with crazy odds.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I guess they killed the Russian lady because they knew she was evil or something. Frankly the narrative really broke down at the end which is another pattern with the Indiana Jones movies. In the first, the third, and the fourth, the artifact basically just kills all the bad people and leaves the good guys untouched, then they learn a lesson and leave. In the second, the British show up to kill all those evil natives and save Indiana Jones. So yeah, maybe someday they'll figure out how to end the movies and make sense at the same time. "Knowledge was their treasure?" I mean what the heck does that mean.</span>
Yah, the movie was mindless fun until the <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>end. Like you guys have said, it got weird and the story just fell apart at the seams. The reason I didn't like the aliens is it did not stay within the typical ancient mythos. The old movies obviously had over the top endings such as the convenant, but it kept it in some kind of mythology. This alien thing basically seemed like a grade 2 ending to a story (and then they find out aliens did it!). Not saying I didn't like it, it just got a little over the top at the end <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile-fix.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":)" border="0" alt="smile-fix.gif" /></span>
Didn't think we needed spoiler tags in a topic about, well, the movie, you know?
Yes monkeys. Basically the movie went ape###### from there on - or at least it was very pronounced here with a bunch of odd stuff happening:<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'> - Well, yeah, the monkeys. <b>DOT DOT DOT</b> - the giant ants segment, well, they're okay. But, what's with them all running away from them, then suddenly marion comes driving in the amphibian? Okay, you might claim she stayed in it, but why didn't they all stay in it them? and just drive off? It reeks of *screwing-up-consistency-in-order-to-make-certain-stuff-happen-that-makes-for-a-good-scene* - Driving off the cliff with the whole treething.. - Falling down 3 waterfalls, surviving.</span>
I'm also somewhat dissappointed with the lack of the right font when it showed the title in the beginning. You know, that yellow-red font it like on the poster.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Was I the only one who caught the fact that the russian lady got exactly what she asked for? she was begging to learn everything they knew, and I think they were granting her wish in thanks for returning the skull. obviously it was too much for her and it melted her brain/body. After begging for their knowledge, she was like, "Please, no more, no more!" because she was getting overloaded or w/e. I didn't think it was that subtle but I guess it was.
in general, I agree that the ending was a little over-the-top even for an Indy movie. One 'continuity' point that bothered me was that the aliens said they would reward them greatly, but there was never any reward (unless russkie chick's brain-melting knowledge infusion was the only reward).</span>
<!--quoteo(post=1679532:date=May 26 2008, 04:49 PM:name=DiscoZombie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DiscoZombie @ May 26 2008, 04:49 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=1679532"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>in general, I agree that the ending was a little over-the-top even for an Indy movie. One 'continuity' point that bothered me was that the aliens said they would reward them greatly, but there was never any reward (unless russkie chick's brain-melting knowledge infusion was the only reward).</span><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Legend has it that the person who returned the skull would be in charge of the whole place. Seeing as the whole place crumbled and turned into a lake, I took it as an ironic misinterpretation that got built up over centuries of legends: sure, you'll be in charge. In charge of an empty water hazard. Just like how the Grail grants eternal life, but you can't pass the seal.</span>
Just saw it today (parents took me as a birthday treat =3 ).
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Like everyone's already said, I felt the whole aliens thing was kind of out of place. Ok so the indy films are over the top usually but again, indy is really more about mysticism and things almost felt too well explained in the end =P ).</span>
Nazis are still the best kind of badguy you can have though. Poor Russians.
Bah, they could have use some secret Nazi organization that survived WWII chasing after <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Shi_Bi" target="_blank"> He Shi Bi</a> in some giant Chinese tomb filled with booby traps, but noooo.... Let's put in <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>buried interdimensional-faring flying saucer with telepathic aliens with skulls made of crystal</span>.
The only thing that bothered me was that after Indy BLEW UP the <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>giant jungle devouring machine razing a path for them, there were suddenly several paths for them to go car chasing down. oh. and the monkeys.</span>
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Rivendale?
btw, I can top all of you:
Apparently my friend's sister's finance's brother wrote the screen play for Ironman.
btw, I can top all of you:
Apparently my friend's sister's finance's brother wrote the screen play for Ironman.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Your friend's sister's financial assets have a brother?
Shia is just awful, the crying made me cringe.
Gotta add the snake scene to the monkeys and ants, and yea, the capoeira maniacs..that was just plain shame.
Yeah let's go back to more plausible things like the Ark of the Covenant destroying armies with lightning or Kali worshipping Indian death cults that can rip your heart out while you are still alive and use voodoo dolls or a thousand year old knight guarding the Holy Grail with the help of a secret society.
Or, like, Indy has to escape space nazis by being towed by an X-WING! And he's on <b>water-skis</b>, and then he <i>RAMPS OVER A SHARK</i>.
aka Return of the Jedi.
Oh come on man, you MUST see how people (me included) can feel a little iffy when we expected a race for <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>ancient biblical/religious artifacts while escaping from ancient booby traps only to find out that all of it is about interdimensional aliens and a buried flying saucer</span>
On the other hand, it was a joy to see Marion again.
Carefully constructed blowdart traps triggered by pressure plates? Just run quickly and duck. Huge swarm of natives firing arrows and poison darts from 10 feet behind you? Just run towards the plane. Ark of the Covenant killing everybody? Just close your eyes. Thuggee cultist trying to rip out your heart? Just pull his hand away. Tank shooting at you? Take it out with rocks. Indiana Jones always gets away with crazy odds.
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>I guess they killed the Russian lady because they knew she was evil or something. Frankly the narrative really broke down at the end which is another pattern with the Indiana Jones movies. In the first, the third, and the fourth, the artifact basically just kills all the bad people and leaves the good guys untouched, then they learn a lesson and leave. In the second, the British show up to kill all those evil natives and save Indiana Jones. So yeah, maybe someday they'll figure out how to end the movies and make sense at the same time. "Knowledge was their treasure?" I mean what the heck does that mean.</span>
Didn't think we needed spoiler tags in a topic about, well, the movie, you know?
Yes monkeys. Basically the movie went ape###### from there on - or at least it was very pronounced here with a bunch of odd stuff happening:<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>
- Well, yeah, the monkeys. <b>DOT DOT DOT</b>
- the giant ants segment, well, they're okay. But, what's with them all running away from them, then suddenly marion comes driving in the amphibian? Okay, you might claim she stayed in it, but why didn't they all stay in it them? and just drive off? It reeks of *screwing-up-consistency-in-order-to-make-certain-stuff-happen-that-makes-for-a-good-scene*
- Driving off the cliff with the whole treething..
- Falling down 3 waterfalls, surviving.</span>
I'm also somewhat dissappointed with the lack of the right font when it showed the title in the beginning. You know, that yellow-red font it like on the poster.
in general, I agree that the ending was a little over-the-top even for an Indy movie. One 'continuity' point that bothered me was that the aliens said they would reward them greatly, but there was never any reward (unless russkie chick's brain-melting knowledge infusion was the only reward).</span>
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Legend has it that the person who returned the skull would be in charge of the whole place. Seeing as the whole place crumbled and turned into a lake, I took it as an ironic misinterpretation that got built up over centuries of legends: sure, you'll be in charge. In charge of an empty water hazard. Just like how the Grail grants eternal life, but you can't pass the seal.</span>
i did notice the indy voodoo doll tho ^^
<span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Like everyone's already said, I felt the whole aliens thing was kind of out of place. Ok so the indy films are over the top usually but again, indy is really more about mysticism and things almost felt too well explained in the end =P ).</span>
Nazis are still the best kind of badguy you can have though. Poor Russians.
Still fun though =D
I read the spoilers. Put me a bit off, the aliens.